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AgProv AgProv Since: Jul, 2011
AgProv
Jun 13th 2023 at 3:37:18 AM •••

Just noticed how the image of Rob Liefeld looks uncannily like a younger version of Jack Chick. This could well spark off a few conspiracy theories...

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AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013
Jul 6th 2015 at 3:20:26 PM •••

Several tropes have no description at all.

Ie. Boobs-and-Butt Pose

Suggestion:

Boobs-and-Butt Pose: Perhaps the Trope Codifier, to Artistic License – Biology levels.

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
Jul 7th 2015 at 5:27:33 AM •••

Post here if yoiu want to make an edit to a locked page

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igordebraga Since: Jan, 2001
jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
Jun 22nd 2015 at 10:45:45 PM •••

Ask here if you want a locked article to be edited.

Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need Summary
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jun 23rd 2015 at 1:25:16 AM •••

Fixed it.

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A.vonZiggurat Since: Oct, 2013
Dec 1st 2013 at 3:03:49 PM •••

Schedule Slip ought to be added. Rob's pretty infamous for it; reportedly, his issue of Deathmate being late for months was a major source in the crossover's failure.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Apr 3rd 2013 at 8:04:33 AM •••

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the complaint under Gag Penis (that they have a snow shovel down their pants) is lodged more often against his female characters than male, isn't it?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Apr 3rd 2013 at 8:16:40 AM •••

And really, Trope Maker of Superhero Packing Heat? Codifier I can accept, but Maker? Is this a universe when The Punisher doesn't exist? Or even Vilgilante? There are SO many.

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VicGeorge2011 Since: Mar, 2011
Feb 11th 2013 at 7:22:42 AM •••

That's "try figuring out", NOT "try and figure out".

Darkton Lurker Supreme Since: Sep, 2012
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Sep 11th 2012 at 1:48:06 AM •••

I heard a rumor that Liefeld quit the comic's industry. Any truth to that?

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coolman229 Since: May, 2011
Nov 12th 2012 at 8:10:50 PM •••

I know he quit DC, burned bridges, and is pissing everyone off. I haven't heard if he's outright quitting the industry, though.

So I tried to point out the flaws in Mako's character... then I was crucified
MisterDT Since: Dec, 2010
Jul 20th 2012 at 12:24:27 PM •••

Okay, on the Captain Ersatz section, it's said that Liefeld is Deadpool's "original co-creator with Joe Kelly". But Joe Kelly didn't write the character until his first ongoing series in the late 90s. Fabian Nicieza co-created Deadpool alongside Rob Liefeld. This should be fixed.

gibberingtroper Since: May, 2009
Dec 10th 2011 at 2:37:54 PM •••

So it appears the one Liefeld fanboy still in existence has mod privileges on TV Tropes. Those who disparage Liefeld are listed as "Hate Dumb" and the backlash against Liefeld is attributed to Seinfeld Is Unfunny. Real mature.

Liefeld is not "Seinfeld Is Unfunny." Seinfeld Is Unfunny is when a groundbreaking work loses its appeal over time because it is so heavily imitated that what it added to its genre is no longer really acknowledged by the masses. Liefeld added nothing of merit to comic books. As this article itself points out, he didn't even really invent any of the styles or tropes he apparently popularized and while he may have created "Deadpool" he has nothing to do with what makes that character good these days. Deadpool could have just as easily been created out of any other carbon copy stock Nineties Anti-Hero.

He was never good. He was a man of juvenile tastes and a lazy creator with limited skills and a defective style.

Its not wrong to like him. You are not dumb or inferior for liking him. But he was never actually good. You have to admit that to yourself.

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gibberingtroper Since: May, 2009
Dec 10th 2011 at 2:39:40 PM •••

In fact, just to make it clear, Liefeld is really the reverse of "Seinfeld Is Unfunny" since he is credited with things he didn't add to the medium, hated or loved. He's a Trope Codifier at most.

AP Since: Apr, 2010
Nov 29th 2011 at 3:41:00 AM •••

Joe Kelly is credited as the co-creator of Deadpool on this page. It should be changed to Fabien Niceza.

gibberingtroper Since: May, 2009
Jun 21st 2011 at 4:03:43 PM •••

What happened to that picture of the deformed spine girl? Its such a perfect representation of who this guy is.

Artemis92 Cogito Gratia Cogitan Since: Dec, 2009
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Mar 18th 2010 at 6:35:08 AM •••

Artemis92: In the "40 reasons" thing that the page links to, the picture at the bottom of the first page doesn't show(the character in it is referred to as "quadzilla"). I'm just curious. If anybody knows what the picture is, could they please post a link to it?

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