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PlasmaTalon Since: Mar, 2015
Mar 11th 2019 at 8:28:31 AM •••

Can "Nice Job Fixing it Villain" and "Create Your Own Hero" be added to Alduin's folder?

He attempts to kill the Dragonborn before they have a chance to become a threat to him. However his actions not only stop the Dragonborn from being executed, but initiates the chain of events which lead to them realizing their power.

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BeerBaron Since: Mar, 2012
BeerBaron Since: Mar, 2012
May 4th 2017 at 10:09:24 AM •••

Whenever we do get around to splitting this, I'd love to see the "Lesser Daedra" section moved to the new Daedra page from the Races page. It just feels really out of place there.

NubianSatyress Curly Goddess Since: Mar, 2016
Curly Goddess
Apr 30th 2017 at 3:23:27 PM •••

Zaptech has removed references to the Vigilant of Stendarr attacking worshippers of non-malicious daedra, with the note "They don't attack you unless you refuse to hand over your daedric artifact".

I'm not sure about this change, because the distinction seems arbitrary. Maybe they don't attack you outright, but that sounds an awful lot like a mugging.

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BeerBaron Since: Mar, 2012
May 1st 2017 at 8:50:50 AM •••

I added it back with examples under Stendarr's "Knight Templar" entry. I don't really think it added much to the Daedra's "Religion of Evil" entry, so I left it out of there.

NubianSatyress Curly Goddess Since: Mar, 2016
Curly Goddess
Jan 23rd 2017 at 9:49:37 AM •••

First Concern

I would argue that Talos deserves a section here, possibly overlapping with that offered in the Historical Figures page.

The reason being, there is in-universe debate as to the exact relation between Talos the god and Talos Stormcrown, the mortal hero. Most people acknowledge them as one and the same being while see Talos the god as a second entity borne from Stormcrown — similar to Mind Uploading on a godly scale. Yet another group of in-universe people see Talos the god as the Merger of Souls involving Tiber Septim and the other Shezzarines that preceded him, such as Pelinal Whitestrake.

As such, I think we need two sections.

Second Concern

This page is already difficult to edit due to its file size and may need to be split even further. If so, we might want to discuss what the difference between the two (or more) pages should be.

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BeerBaron Since: Mar, 2012
Jan 23rd 2017 at 12:10:25 PM •••

@Nubian Satyress

Good recommendations. I have no objection to adding Talos, the deity, to this page. I'd definitely make a note in the description for his entry that entries for Tiber the mortal should go on the Historical Figures page. (And vice versa on Tiber's entry on the Historical Figures page). Some may overlap enough to warrant an entry on both, but most will fit just fine in one or the other.

As for where to split it if it gets much bigger, I'd say move the Daedric Princes to their own page and keep everyone else (Lorkhan, Aedra, others) here.

My $0.02. And thank you for your recent entries on the page. Quality additions.

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NubianSatyress Since: Mar, 2016
Jan 23rd 2017 at 12:19:51 PM •••

Thank you! ^_^

I've had my love for the lore reawakened recently. If and when I get a chance, I'll work on the split so long as no one intervenes or interjects.

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