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AzureOwl Since: May, 2009
Jan 18th 2018 at 8:58:14 AM •••

Why was the page reset to such an early version? All the links to the subpages are missing?

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AzureOwl Since: May, 2009
Jan 18th 2018 at 11:05:02 AM •••

Never mind. Found the explanation at the Ask The Tropers page.

LadyErinNY Since: Sep, 2014
Oct 21st 2017 at 8:37:55 AM •••

Jughead and adaptional sexuality. In the old comics, Jughead was not asexual and the creators haven't said that this is an adaption of the reboot comics. So there is no adaptional sexuality, right? I mean I think that's right but it keeps getting put back in that I'm starting to doubt myself.

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Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Oct 23rd 2017 at 9:41:13 PM •••

Hmm, Riveralde is very Broad Strokes about the source material. Try bringing it up in the "Is This An Example" forum thread.

AdelePotter susie. Since: Aug, 2010
susie.
Oct 23rd 2017 at 6:46:11 PM •••

Would it make more sense to split up the character pages as such?:

  • Main Characters (Archie, Betty, Veronica, Jughead, Cheryl, maaaybe Kevin and Josie?)
  • Family Members
  • Riverdale High School
  • Other Riverdale Residents
  • Southside Residents

Or something like that?

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Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Oct 23rd 2017 at 9:40:01 PM •••

Yes, definitely the protagonists should get their own page. Main Characters can contain all the characters billed as main cast (so that includes Josie, can't recall if Kevin got bumped up to main in S2.)

Riverdale Residents can all stay on one page right now, but subdivided into Students and Other Residents. Doesn't look like either section is particularly overdosed just yet.

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Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Oct 20th 2017 at 7:56:36 PM •••

Pulling the following Betty and Veronica examples:

  • (Archie) Betty and Veronica: He is the Veronica for Veronica herself (with the Betty being Betty herself), and also the Veronica for Betty (with her Betty being either Veronica or Jughead.) His own Betty and Veronica are either Betty and Veronica themselves, or Veronica as the Betty and Miss Grundy as the Veronica.
  • (Betty) Betty and Veronica: She is of course Archie's Betty (with Veronica being the Veronica), but she's also Veronica's Betty (with the Veronica being Archie). Her Betty is actually Jughead, while her Veronica is Archie.
  • (Veronica) Betty and Veronica: She is either the Veronica to Archie (with Betty being the Betty), or his Betty (with Miss Grundy being the Veronica). She is also Betty's Betty (with the Veronica being Archie). Her Betty is Betty, and her Veronica is Archie.
  • (Jughead) Betty and Veronica: He plays the Betty to Archie's Veronica for Betty Cooper herself.
  • (Ms. Grundy) Betty and Veronica: There's a case to be made that she is Archie's Veronica, Veronica is his Betty, and Betty herself is a non-contender as the Unlucky Childhood Friend. However, it remains unclear how much of a relationship they can have, considering the legal and moral issues.

Okay, I know this is an Archie property and so people are itching to put Betty and Veronica in there somewhere, but really...

Zero Context Example, Examples Are Not Arguable, and some of these are questionable (eg. has the show seriously considered Betty as a love interest for Veronica besides 1x02? How is Archie not the Betty to Jughead's Veronica, considering Archie and Betty grew up together?). Moreover, these writeups seem to show that nothing in this Love Dodecahedron fits cleanly into Betty and Veronica, which is about two love interests where the contrast is very clear. If a person has three love interests and they don't fit into Betty and Veronica and the Third-Option Love Interest, it's not an example.

If they are truly examples, they have to be rewritten in with context (eg. "Alice is the Betty to Beatrice's Veronica, because [reasons that make them a Betty]") and without phrases like "arguably' and "a case can be made."

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