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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Apr 4th 2022 at 1:15:07 AM •••

Re cut request: I've declined it as there are far too many inbounds. Please redirect or disambiguate instead, thanks.

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
Nov 2nd 2017 at 10:46:36 AM •••

Pokemon Villain Team Rainbow Rocket. Yes or no?

The trailer indicates that they will be the Big Bad of Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. What we know so far is that Giovanni has Mewtwo as his signature pokemon, the grunts have rainbow colored R symbols on thier shirts, and that literally ever team villain boss except Lusamine and Guzma have joined him. I'd say that warrants a separate page instead of adding more onto the Team Rocket page.

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Raxis Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 2nd 2017 at 11:26:49 AM •••

I suggest waiting until the game comes out and we see what actually happens in the Rainbow Rocket storyline.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Nov 2nd 2017 at 11:28:12 AM •••

I might support a split when the time comes, but it's definitely too premature.

Also, are you in favor of doubling up (so Giovanni would be on this hypothetical page and the original TR page) or moving everyone? Or just having this page be mostly "See Team Rocket/Plasma/etc."

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
Nov 2nd 2017 at 2:33:50 PM •••

Well the thing is: Team Rocket has been effectively out of the picture (save for Giovanni being a contestant in the Pokemon World Tournament) ever since Gen 3 was introduced. That means that everything established on the Team Rocket page only mostly applies to the first two generation games where they are the bad guys.

Gen 7 isn't bringing back Team Rocket. They're now Team Rainbow Rocket, which is technically a different team, even if we all know they're still the same. Anything that happened to Team Rocket in Gen 1 and 2 should stay on their page. If US/UM happens to make references to past events, then it's worth listing on the Rainbow Rocket page, and characterization comparisons between the two teams for recurring characters like Giovanni is fair as well.

CJCroen1393 Since: Jul, 2011
Nov 11th 2017 at 10:43:33 AM •••

A recent interview confirmed that the members of TRR came from alternate universes where they won, if that helps.

cookieman Since: Nov, 2010
mrbits Since: May, 2009
Nov 18th 2016 at 3:10:27 PM •••

Someone added them under 'Spoiler Team.' I think that since they're under a folder like that, they don't need any spoiler tags for their tropes.

Zoroark69 Since: Apr, 2010
Iamabrawler Since: Aug, 2012
Sep 6th 2015 at 3:05:44 PM •••

Should we move Team Cypher to this page?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011
Jun 15th 2014 at 10:20:52 AM •••

Signature Move has been misused on these pages. I've replaced them with Weapon Of Choice since that is the idea behind the original entries.

lightning37 Since: Dec, 2010
Jan 15th 2014 at 5:56:54 AM •••

Regarding whoever deleted my entry saying that Ghetsis has a physical Hydreigon in Black 2 and White 2 most likely because Iris has a special attacking one: my theory behind that goes to something that was discussed on the Headscratchers page there asking why Shauntal doesn't have Jellicent anymore, and someone said it was likely because Marlon has one and they didn't want to give the same Pokémon to two important battles. If they had gave Ghetsis a special attacking Hydreigon in the Giant Chasm, they would have had very little reason to give Iris one.

But then again, you could argue with that, because both Ghetsis and Shauntal use Cofagrigus in both games, and in the first games Grimsley and Ghetsis both had Bisharp. Even moreso considering Clair, Lance and Blue in HGSS all use Gyarados and such (although Clair's has a terrible moveset).

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MagBas MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
MagBas
Oct 26th 2013 at 1:40:13 PM •••

  • A Nazi by Any Other Name: Well, seeing as they're basically committing genocide by wiping out everyone and everything not loyal to them while seeking to become immortal superhumans, they might count.

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Athena13 Since: Jan, 2011
Oct 7th 2013 at 1:34:25 AM •••

So, does Game Freak REALLY expect us to believe that Ghetsis JUST HAPPENED to come across a kid in the woods who suited his plan perfectly AND looked exactly like him? I mean, I can buy "not father and son", but you give me "not related at all" and I'm gonna think that you think I'm an idiot or something.

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