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rmctagg09 The Wanderer (Time Abyss)
The Wanderer
Mar 8th 2017 at 8:40:56 PM •••

The page has apparently gotten too big to go on without splitting.

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MagBas MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
MagBas
Jan 1st 2017 at 4:44:52 PM •••

This example sounds bad:

  • Expy: Solgaleo is one of Metagross, mechanics-wise. It's a powerful physical attacking Steel/Psychic type with an ability that makes it impossible to lower it's stats.

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PDL Since: Jul, 2010
Jan 1st 2017 at 5:43:54 PM •••

It is. Quite a few Pokémon share typings and abilities and that alone isn't notable enough to be an Expy.

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
Nov 27th 2016 at 11:13:29 AM •••

This was added to Logical Weakness for Rowlet.

  • Decidueye is a cool and collected archer and hunts in stealth, however it gets startled easily and panics when it is spotted and/or surprised, explaining its weaknesses to Ghost- and Dark-Type moves.

Someone care to explain to me how "being panicked and surprised" equals weakness to ghost and darkness? I'm honestly not seeing a "Logical" weakness here, just because you think that anyone who is weak to ghost and dark types are "Afraid".

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Maronmario Since: Nov, 2016
Dec 19th 2016 at 4:55:44 PM •••

I can underhand the Dark type weakness. Dark types have been shown to fight dirty with moves like sucker punch and pursuit. Ghost type however makes less sense, though you could say it's because some ghost types are pranksters

MagBas MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
MagBas
Dec 17th 2016 at 7:55:34 AM •••

  • Recurring Element: Schooling has many similarities in common with Defeatist, an ability exclusive to Archen and Archeops, with the difference of forcing Wishwashi back into its weaker solo form rather than lowering its stats directly.
    • Wishiwashi being known as a terrifying Water-type that "evolves" from a weaker form at level 20 references Magikarp and Gyarados.
    • Wishiwashi's School Form is also very similar to Kyurem Black in that both Pokemon hit extremely hard on both sides, have an incredible amount of power and bulk but are slow. They also have incredibly shallow movepools to stop them from being way too strong.

Three examples to the same character- and at least the third is incredibly weak.

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Karxrida Since: May, 2012
Dec 17th 2016 at 11:41:49 AM •••

None of them are really recurring since they've only happened before once. (The last one is just reaching anyway.) They should all be deleted.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
Dec 18th 2016 at 9:37:11 AM •••

Another weak example:

  • Recurring Element: Tapu Koko is another popular, physically-offensive Pokemon based on a rooster in the series.

Karxrida Since: May, 2012
Dec 18th 2016 at 12:43:35 PM •••

What? Kill that one, too.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
julyjack73 Since: Nov, 2010
Dec 8th 2016 at 7:45:17 AM •••

Why is Marshadow not included?

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
Dec 8th 2016 at 7:49:12 AM •••

It has been commented out until it is officially revealed.

Sumeragi_Grunt Since: Nov, 2016
Dec 9th 2016 at 9:15:49 AM •••

Why? Everyone knows about it and no actions have been taken to remove info about it online.

PDL Since: Jul, 2010
Dec 9th 2016 at 9:26:09 AM •••

It's still considered a kind of spoiler. Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion also had their period when they were commented out before being officially revealed so I don't see why Marshadow would be different this time around.

Also if any official source decided to remove info on it, it's pretty much revealing a spoiler in itself and ruin whatever plan they have for Marshadow.

Sumeragi_Grunt Since: Nov, 2016
Dec 9th 2016 at 9:55:47 AM •••

Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion were the different ones. From what I know when BW came out, Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect were never excluded from their page. Weird how as the info becomes more widespread than ever, more people want to hide it.

They actually did remove the first full game datamine vids, but that was it. Didn't even bother touching the demo ones on the same channel that still had all the sprites. It seems the only thing official sources actually take offense to is if the game/demo itself isn't released yet. Revealing a spoiler? Everyone has talked about it for half a year. The largest video featuring it is at 1.5 million views. Even Serebii, the guy who fears getting hit for leaking info more than anyone else, still has Marshadow on his site and it's not even hard to find.

I'm tempted to put Marshadow back on the page considering it lasted so long unopposed and how pointless this removal was, but if there's consensus against it I won't.

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
Dec 9th 2016 at 10:54:50 AM •••

The game has only been out for three weeks, so I wouldn't call 2 weeks as "lasting so long unopposed".

Sumeragi_Grunt Since: Nov, 2016
Dec 9th 2016 at 3:19:03 PM •••

2 weeks is quite a while for something that apparently wasn't supposed to be there. It even got its own decently sized folder in the process.

I think the best solution is to put it back, but with a spoiler disclaimer. Marshadow will probably be revealed in a couple of months anyway.

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PDL Since: Jul, 2010
Dec 9th 2016 at 4:00:29 PM •••

...It's already commented out. What would be the point of putting a spoiler disclaimer when it's already hidden away?

Info on it is already there and there are ways to access it. It's fine as it is.

Sumeragi_Grunt Since: Nov, 2016
Dec 9th 2016 at 9:21:25 PM •••

I wouldn't really call having to edit the page or check the source code "fine ways to access it."

Though I suppose the "#802" somebody forgot to remove from the main character page is a good enough hint.

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Kindle4Light Since: Oct, 2011
Dec 6th 2016 at 3:12:21 AM •••

Does anyone know whether Sparking Aria can heal burns from Pokémon with Water Absorb, Storm Drain etc? I want to expand on the Popplio line's Situational Sword entry whether that helps smart trainers using the move on their partners or not.

Zoroark69 Since: Apr, 2010
acrobox Since: Nov, 2010
Nov 18th 2016 at 1:04:30 AM •••

game is out. another motion to unlock the page.

GoldenKeyblade Since: Jun, 2015
Nov 14th 2016 at 10:14:31 AM •••

Well, Game Freak just announced two new Ultra Beasts, UB-03 Lightning and UB-05 Gluttony. Anyone up for adding the folders for them?

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PDL Since: Jul, 2010
Nov 14th 2016 at 10:31:59 AM •••

The full game comes out on friday and by then the page will be unlocked and ready for full editting.

Andre Since: Dec, 2009
Nov 12th 2016 at 8:46:04 PM •••

I realize when most people think of werewolves, they think of something like Lycanroc's Midnight form. However, a fact many don't seem to realize is that both forms reflect werewolf lore. It may not be as popular when it comes to werewolves, but there are some legends that werewolves are much like regular wolves... the main difference of course, being that a werewolf is originally human. Hence, Lycanroc's midday form is just as much a werewolf as midnight form.

kablammin45 Flawless Victree (Don’t ask)
Flawless Victree
Oct 27th 2016 at 6:50:10 AM •••

So...can info about the starter's final stages, the other Tapus, and Cosmog be added now?

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FantiSci Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 27th 2016 at 7:33:10 AM •••

Well, they're officially confirmed, and anyone serious about avoiding spoilers would be giving this page a wide berth already...so I think we're good(ra) to go.

PDL Since: Jul, 2010
Oct 27th 2016 at 8:10:54 AM •••

I've sent some edit requests to the locked page edit thread in the forums regarding the starter evolutions and Cosmog, but not the Tapus right now.

dimentiorules Since: Jun, 2010
Oct 27th 2016 at 10:27:47 AM •••

Please add the information! It's killing my OCD that the page is incomplete, it needs to be perfected! I'm sorry about that, but I have really bad OCD.

Never trouble trouble unless trouble troubles you.
Running_Gag Since: Aug, 2014
Oct 27th 2016 at 4:58:49 PM •••

There's already a warning at top of the page that says it's for revealed AND leaked Pokemon and that it has spoilers. so locking the page was really unnecessary.

Karxrida Since: May, 2012
Oct 27th 2016 at 5:02:19 PM •••

It was locked for legal reasons; why do you think Serebii hasn't reported the details of the datamine on his site despite acknowledging them on his personal Twitter?

The demo leaking the entire Dex is kind of a big deal compared to the stuff that gets revealed by CoroCoro.

Edited by Karxrida If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
PDL Since: Jul, 2010
Oct 27th 2016 at 5:11:16 PM •••

Not to mention that the only things from the leaks are just images of models. No names, typings or any other substantial attributes to really trope.

Karxrida Since: May, 2012
Oct 27th 2016 at 5:17:04 PM •••

Appearance Tropes are a thing. Also, Marshadow.

The models for some evolved forms could still be attatched to their prevo's section (e.g. Whimpod's evo), the models for the stuff that has been revealed could be added when we shouldn't have them, and the dataminers said Cosmog evolves into the cover Legends (which we aren't supposed to know). It's much easier to keep the pages locked than to constantly police them.

The games come out in 3 weeks. Just be patient.

Edited by Karxrida If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
InsanezillaXXXL Since: Apr, 2012
Oct 27th 2016 at 7:32:51 PM •••

That's no excuse for the moderators to not update the page with officially released (i.e. not leaked) info since they're the only ones who can edit locked pages until game releases.

Karxrida Since: May, 2012
Oct 27th 2016 at 7:47:45 PM •••

I never said otherwise. There's a thread dedicated to requesting edits to locked pages in the FAQ part of the forums.

Edited by Karxrida If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
InsanezillaXXXL Since: Apr, 2012
Oct 27th 2016 at 8:00:02 PM •••

Oh... sorry about that I let my lack of patience get the better of me but I do agree that the page should not be unlocked until Nov. 18th just to be safe.

neoamon Since: Nov, 2010
Nov 10th 2016 at 9:49:48 AM •••

Could an admin please add the offical art of the starters final forms, Tapus and Cosmog to the page. Since they have offical shown.

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TPPR10 Since: Aug, 2013
Nov 10th 2016 at 9:53:06 AM •••

The current idea if going by the discussion thread that the artwork could be replaced by pictures what are shown in the SM Pokédex like how previous gens had sprites/models as pictures instead of full artwork.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
Nov 8th 2016 at 4:32:01 PM •••

May I ask if combining the different Kapus into a single folder/family, like most legendary groups in other generations, is something everybody else aproves of?

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PDL Since: Jul, 2010
Nov 8th 2016 at 5:24:31 PM •••

You can request the edit in the forums. There's a thread for editing locked pages.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
Nov 8th 2016 at 5:48:37 PM •••

I know I know, but I wouldn't ask for an edit of that magnitude without asking others for their opinion.

PDL Since: Jul, 2010
Jul 6th 2016 at 7:19:42 AM •••

So I see people are putting Sugimori artwork for this page.

Do you guys plan on putting the actual in-game sprites/model pics when the games finally come out or are you going to change the other pages to the Sugimori artwork as well?

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
Aug 1st 2016 at 5:23:37 PM •••

Yeah, I'm sure the in-game sprites will be added once full evolution lines are revealed.

nesian42ryukaiel Since: May, 2013
Nov 5th 2016 at 7:28:59 AM •••

Speaking of Sugimori's art, why is Magearna's art stuck in the anime version when the Sugimori version (mirror-flipped from Anime style art) had been released long ago?

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
Nov 8th 2016 at 4:29:24 PM •••

I'll work on whipping out smaller images from the game assets once they are officially out, but, until then, leaving the Sugimori art there is the best option.

vman0 Since: Aug, 2016
Nov 7th 2016 at 7:10:11 PM •••

Just a question for you all: Why did the editors that made this page think it was good when it's got bad grammar mistakes, missing Pokemon art and just general ineptness?

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PDL Since: Jul, 2010
Nov 8th 2016 at 5:55:56 AM •••

In case you haven't noticed, the page is locked (due to leaks), so edits need to be requested in the forums until the games are officially released. So wait until then for the page to fit your high standards.

Also I don't like your attitude. Referring to other editors as inept is generally in bad form.

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Vile.EXE Since: Jun, 2013
Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:04:21 PM •••

Suggestion for a trope to add to Oranguru:

Mind Control: Instruct is either mere mental suggestion or a benevolent example of this, as it immediately makes the target use its last move again. It's known as "Command" in Japan, and with Oranguru being a Psychic-Type, Instruct likely involves Oranguru giving the target a mental directive that it can't disobey.

The word "perform" is also misspelled as "preform" in Oranguru's opening paragraph.

Andre Since: Dec, 2009
Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:25:06 PM •••

Is it just me, or does Pyukumuku look a lot like the black elebits from the game Elebits? I'm guessing it's just coincidence, but every time I look at one, I can't help thinking that.

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compactwave Since: May, 2013
Oct 27th 2016 at 9:52:18 PM •••

Take away the horn and legs of the black elebit and they'd almost be identical.

Kytseo Since: Jul, 2010
May 11th 2016 at 5:08:52 PM •••

Wasn't the legendarys' names all but revealed with the Sogaleo and Lunaala trademark?

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Chytus Since: Sep, 2010
May 11th 2016 at 5:11:42 PM •••

Prefer to wait until we get the names from an official source like Coro Coro. Or at least a leak from an official source.

Karxrida Since: May, 2012
May 11th 2016 at 5:12:58 PM •••

I think they're pretty much 100% guaranteed to be that since the other trademarked names match the starters, but I agree with waiting for now.

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