First off, that isn't true. Aigis has a number of moments with the P 3 MC outside of her social link that suggest mutual romantic attraction (let's remember the lap pillow scene) Yukari doesn't. Her scenes don't have anything to suggest her feelings are mutual. Second, it doesn't make sense. If they're both implied, which they're not, but if they were, we'd list both. Third, you need to stop listing Elizabeth as a love interest. There is no evidence for her at all.
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Technically they are all love interests. You can literally take Elizabeth on a date so there is no argument there. Seconds apart from the guys all thinking she’s hot on the beach(like the did with every girl. There is no indication of mutual feelings with Aigis as well.
The issue is both have as much implication as the other and you only have one Implied Love Interest.
You just ignored my point. The player can choose to take any girl on a date that he wants. Aigis is the only character he is implied to like (heart over his head when he sees her, holding hands, lap pillow death) outside of any player input. That is a fact.
You need to stop with this false equivalency argument.
Not really like I said they crushed on everyone one at the beach so that’s hardly a acurate example and they couldn’t move when they were dying. All of those state Aigis is attracted to the MC but not necessarily mutual.
There is about as much indication for Yukari who gets a moment on the beach and a love hotel.
Both of these are missing the point.
Aigis is the ONLY character that the MC has a heart above his head towards. That doesn't happen with any of the other girls, including the ones they hit on. The Beach Hunt was a game that the MC seems to have been dragged on, but he shows genuine interest in Aigis.
"They couldn't move when they were dying". Yes they could? Also, you're again missing the point that the writers chose to have him die by falling asleep in her lap alone. And if you still deny that it is a romantic scene, P 3 P has the non-canon alternative ending that lets you replace Aigis with your chosen lover.
Neither the Love Hotel scene nor the Beach scene prove that MC had interest in Yukari. The Beach scene could easily be as platonic as romantic and the Lover's Shadow will pair up anyone, even Akihiko and Junpei if they're in your party.
You need to stop denying/misrepresenting facts and purposefully missing the point. This is really getting ridiculous.
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I’m not misinterpreting facts in noe of the example is it indicated the MC has solid feelings for anyone. Aigis’s scenes have just as much implied romance, it just seems be on what you perceive. Outside of their Social links their is little to no indication of the MC reciprocating anyone’s feelings. Same with Yukari who again gets about the same amount of moments and is the default sumer festival date. Again it’s obvious Aigis is in love with the MC but nothing indicates they return the feeling. Same with all girls.
Also your facts are wrong. The MC blushes for all girls on the beach.
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"The MC blushes for all girls on the beach." I'm just going to be nice and say you're mistaken. This video proves it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KciCxHe1ZTA
"Outside of their Social links their is little to no indication of the MC reciprocating anyone’s feelings." Literally all you have to do is look at my past comment and you'll see that's not true. But here, have some more proof. Watch the ending of the game in addition to the scene above and tell me there's no evidence he likes Aigis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT1XWRFw_tg&t=1s
You really need to cut this out. You are a liar.
You know you should checks facts first. The video ending does not indicate at all the MC reciprocates.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=olLc9qTlzDE
This video shows the MC blushing at the girls and having a equity romantic moment with Yukari. So again the only liar here is you.
There's no point in discussing this any further with you. You are making things up to support your argument and it's frankly extremely childish.
Frankly, what are you even trying to achieve? Do you think that lying about what is in a video that everyone is perfectly capable of watching is somehow going to end well for you?
All you're doing here is refusing to respond to my points and pulling a Circular Argument fallacy.
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I just showed you a video. How am I making anything up. You just refuse to see any argument but yours.
I've seen these videos and what you're claiming happens in them doesn't happen. You are pulling a circular argument fallacy in which you refuse to do anything but state the same argument over and over whilst refusing to respond to any points.
Are you kidding I’ve responded to all your points. You are the one denying video evidence.
No, you haven't. You continue to insist that the MC blushes at all the girls which is an outright lie. If you watch the video I posted, he doesn't react to any of them aside from the heart above his head we he sees Aigis.
You also continue to just ignore the ending scene without giving any coherent reason. You just keep pulling red herrings and bringing up irrelevant responses. This while claiming that MC having a one-on-one talk with Yukari is somehow inherently romantic and simultaneously claiming that all of his one-on-one scenes with Aigis mean nothing.
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I didn’t ingnoring anything. I said there is no indication of them reciprocating Aigis’s feelings in the scene. It could easily be as romantic as it could platonic.
In the video I show the Mc fave turns red once Yukari comes out. If anything it more romantic than Aigis beach scene played for Laughs. If you want to refuse to believe facts this argument is going to be rough.
Also, the more I think about your claims, the more they're just more red herrings. Even if MC is attracted to every single girl on the Beach, it doesn't matter because none of them are relevant to the story nor do they like him back. Aigis on the other hand? She's a stalker with a crush. So even if we pretend what you're saying is true, which it isn't, it doesn't matter because those other girls don't appear again.
Ok. Tell me at what time stamp in the video that his face turns red.
The other girls are social links so no their are just important. Again you must unterstand my comments I’m not saying Aigis is less romantic than Yukari. I’m saying they both have romantic moments that don’t indicate the MC reciprocates.
4:36 in my video, the guys all have hearts over their heads. There's nothing to suggest it's played for laughs, but let's pretend it is. It doesn't matter. It proves MC is attracted to Aigis.
"This video shows the MC blushing at the girls" "crushed on everyone one at the beach" Starting at 10:00 he only blushes at Yukari. So no, he doesn't blush at "all the girls." But, notably, at 11:24, the game gives the player the option to say which one he is attracted to. You can choose which, if any of them. So this scene doesn't mean anything.
More false equivalency? At 4:36 in my video, the game shows MC with a heart over his head in response to Aigis. Junpei notes that Aigis is "the best" of the girls. Later, when Akihiko and Junpei find out that Aigis is a robot, MC does not share in their disappointment. Unlike Yukari, not only is there no option for the player to retract the attraction, it's reinforced that he is no matter what you choose.
Also, I just caught you in a blatant lie. You said he shows attraction to "all the girls" over and over and over again.
Again you can choose to say who you can find attractive. That’s all the girls you can romance. Your argument makes no sense just because the MC doesn’t react to Aigis being a robot doesn’t mean they have a romatic Interest in her. The MC again shows attraction to Yukari and dosnt revert the attraction at any point. So you’re argument makes no sense.
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More circular argument, more red herrings. Do you intend on progressing this discussion at all? Or is your hope to just insist on the same fallacies over and over and over until I lose interest and you're free to change the page?
You're doing a piss-poor job if you want to convince me. And I'm someone who would be HAPPY to have his mind changed.
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Um trust me you’re not. I’ve been showing you there is indication Yukari has as much moments as Aigis. And you have shown no indication of the MC returning Aigis affections outside of a sociali link.
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Christ, what a thread.
Anyhoo, Aigis is the Implied Love Interest. Yukari has hints of having interest in MC, but there's zero hint of reciprocation outside of the optional Social Link romance. Aigis, on the other hand, is by default the character the MC spends his final moments resting in her lap.
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I’ll agree with that. Can we at least restore
- Chick Magnet: Every girl he meets seems to fall for him. By the end of the year, it's possible for Fuuka, Mitsuru, Yukari, Chihiro, Yuko, Elizabeth, and even the likes of Maiko, Ms. Toriumi, and Aigis to fall for him.
And
- Promoted to Love Interest: While she did have implications of feelings for the protagonist in the original version of the game, she didn't have a Social Link and so wasn't romancable. Updated Re-release FES adds her as a Social Link and romance option.
I see no reason for those to be removed.
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Between Aigis and Yukari there’s enough indication either could be the Implied Love Interest, so it’s probably best we not list it for either.
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