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Aug 18th 2015 at 11:41:20 PM •••

Hot for teacher vs Hot for a teacher

Noticed the scene where Max and Chloe encounter Jefferson from Episode 4 has a slight subtitle hiccup. Here's what's basically been said upon listening closely.

J: Nobody should have to see me dance. Plus you don't want to watch the old hipster trying to keep up with the kids. I have some pride. Be seeing you.
C: Yes you will. Hot for a teacher.
M: Gross. You are out of control.

Chloe clearly says "Hot for a teacher" but the subtitle says "Hot for teacher" without the a. Scenewise, it kinda supports the former more than the latter. It might not exactly be that big of a deal since the basic idea of the scene is conveyed, but there's kind of a difference between saying "She later jokes to Max that she is "Hot for teacher" in regards to Mr Jefferson." and "She later jokes to Max that Mr Jefferson is "hot for a teacher." at least for accuracy's sake for what she actually said.

Just a little explanation for why I've been changing a slight line which I fear may lead to an edit war if I just explain solely in the edit reason comments.

Edited by Elfkaiser
Jul 28th 2015 at 4:48:04 PM •••

Those spoilers on Mr. Jefferson largely pointless.

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Aug 1st 2015 at 11:45:31 AM •••

@Naoto: When you see the name of certain Tropes, it doesn't matter if the description is spoilered or not. The Dog Was the Mastermind, Sadist Teacher and the like pretty much explain everything without having to read the spoilers. It's the same thing with Rachel Amber's page - it pretty much confirms her death.

But it's a rule here that Trope names may not be hidden with a spoiler now, so what can you do.

(Keeping my stuff spoilered in case the rule is ever revoked, so no one accidentally spoils themselves when they view this page afterwards.)

Edited by GordyTepig
Apr 26th 2015 at 2:39:12 PM •••

The idea that Chloe has It's All About Me is totally YMMV. Firstly, yes, she did blame Max for the weed (and probably under the impression that Max wouldn't face any consequences) but, as you can see if you stay inside the cupboard, David is an abuser, probably a serial one at too by the way that Chloe words the sentence. It's not the nicest thing to do, sure, but considering David's behaviour it's understandable that Chloe would want to shift blame away from herself.

Secondly, when [[Spoiler: Max takes Kate's call]], Chloe is clearly trying to avoid her mother's attention and has no idea about Kate's issues beyond the fact that David is hassling her, and even then Chloe might think that while Kate is facing some trouble, what she's going through is even more imminent. It's not like Max ever corrects Chloe and tells her about everything. Poor Communication Kills relationships, Max.

I'm not saying that Chloe isn't selfish, she can be a damned selfish fool, but It's All About Me is an ego trope, and Chloe to me seems to be a character that's more concerned with satisfying her id and keeping herself happy.

It's YMMV in its finest form.

Edited by ianbailey55 Hide/Show Replies
Apr 26th 2015 at 3:17:27 PM •••

This isn't a YMMV page, and simply saying "YMMV" adds nothing. Examples Are Not Arguable, either. Chloe's behavior does fit the trope, even if it can be reasonably excused.

Apr 26th 2015 at 11:46:03 PM •••

Yep, sometimes the underlying reasons don't matter for the purpose of determining why a trope happens.

Apr 27th 2015 at 1:56:48 PM •••

But isn't {{It's All About Me}} dependent upon the underlying reasons of behaviour? From my interpretation of the trope, a character who's an example of {{It's All About Me}} would have to be acting a certain way in order to feed their ego.

Edited out the second part of this post because upon closer reading I realise that the tropes I suggested as replacements suck.

Edited by ianbailey55
Apr 27th 2015 at 2:12:01 PM •••

Blaming Max once is hardly enough to make her a dirty coward. It's not personal gain hurts because Chloe isn't being punished. And it's not never my fault becuase Chloe isn't blaming others for her problems. The current trope fits because Chloe expects Max to prioritize her and gets mad when she doesn't.

Edited by TheRoguePenguin
Feb 2nd 2015 at 11:27:49 AM •••

Regarding Nathan, should his shooting of Chloe be in spoilers or not? It does happen early in the story and it's shown in the trailer for the game, so I was wondering. I've been putting spoiler over it so far, but I can change that if need be.

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