Removed from main page, as there is a cleanup effort on GIFT underway and I am not sure what to do with this entry:
- GIFT: An in-universe example. Their ability to spread chaos and hatred among the students of CHS is because of the anonymity of the internet.
The edit history seems stuck on "moderator restored to earlier version" for 29th Sep '14, after I made edits today. Can someone fix that?
Hide / Show RepliesAlready reported as a bug, there currently is no fix.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThanks, please let us know when it is fixed, I have significant additions planned for this page.
You can still add them, I think.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanIt is starting to get tempting to separate the Equestria Girls section to its own page.
Hide / Show RepliesYeah, at this point EG is less of a tie in and more of a second media series in the same franchise.
Under Characters.My Little Pony Equestria Girls, then? With Characters.My Little Pony Equestria Girls Rainbow Rocks as a redirect.
- Karma Houdini: Sure, in Rainbow Rocks she's been redeemed and everyone except the Humane Five hates her. And if she were the usual mean girl Alpha Bitch that would be a fitting punishment. But then Fridge Logic kicks in and you remember how at the end of Equestria Girls she mind-raped her schoolmates into being her personal army and then tried to kill Twilight simply for having gotten in her way. Take that into consideration and being the outcast actually seems a pretty light punishment.
The own example notes that she was punished and Karma Houdini is not about insufficient punishment, but about lack of punishment.
Hide / Show RepliesI will concede this. Karma Houdini is more about the bad things a character have done getting pretty much forgotten by lack of time from the work ending, or bad writting. Not the case here.
- Ms. Fanservice: All three of them, but Adagio especially. While their actual designs aren't much different from other humans (although their outfits do show off their bodies more), they way they act is all over this; they have slinky movements, sultry voices, and alluring gazes. While it's kind of jarring considering the target audience, this is fully in-line with them being based on mythological sirens; when Twilight tells the group their origins, she specifically notes they were said to be beautiful.
- Karma Houdini: After placing the entire school under mind control, attempting to kill Twilight, Sunset, and the Humane 5, and trying to take over the human world, their only punishments are losing their singing voices and being shunned as outcasts by the rest of the school. In real life they would have been locked up for the rest of their lives. At least Sunset's case was somewhat justified by her having a Heel–Face Turn. These three remain evil, and as far as we know are still on the loose. However, being they obviously hate being in the human world and, depending on your interpretation, need their amulets to survive, they would probably argue they got punished very harshly.
- Females Are More Innocent: Sonata gives off more of a sweet, innocent little girl vibe than the abrasive Aria and the evil mastermind Adagio.
The Ms. Fanservice example was perfectly good and correctly explained; it's indeniable they are sexualized characters, and also that it's justified in-show; it shouldn't have been deleted.
The Karma Houdini example, however, is in large part covered by Easily Forgiven already, and also contains way too much justification and argumentation. On the ground that Examples Are Not Arguable, it was a bad example.
Females Are More Innocent absolutely doesn't apply, since the whole cast, including villains, are female. One being more innocent than the other is no surprise. The trope is contrasting female villains with male villains, which we haven't there.
Correction: the all-spoilered Karma Houdini that was deleted is about the Dazzlings; the one that is claimed to be too much like Easily Forgiven is for Sunset Shimmer. Here it's different; redundancy in tropes is not necessarily ground for deletion, and the argumentation was better. This example should have stayed.
How are we handling the EQG human versions of the regular characters? Except for Twi, Sunset Shimmer, and Spike, they are technically separate characters, possibly with separate tropes.
Hide / Show RepliesIn the movie itself, they're pretty much the same as the Mane 5. If Divergent Character Evolution kicks in, most likely in spin off comics, then they could possibly be listed separately.
Okay, how about we cut back this page to characters that actually matter?
I'd say that the characters from magazine and storybook stories can safely be deleted. There is absolutely no excuse to fill out a cast page with characters like "a stallion" that don't even include any tropes. No other character page tries to document every single character that exists in a franchise, no matter how irrelevant and insignifcant.
Hide / Show RepliesI agree about the removing of the magazine characters. A recolor of one of the Mane Six that appears in a single comic and has one line of dialogue isn’t important enough to be mention on this page. So I’m going the whole folder.
As for the story book section: Let’s keep it until after the release of Under the Sparkling Sea. Based on the description it may introduce some new characters that appear on more than just two pages and have actual dialogues and personalities.
If that’s not the case or nobody bothers to add them we can still delete the sole entry and call this page “Comic Characters” or something like that.
I for one don't care too much for the magazine "characters", but I know Whatshisgame likes to keep track of everything official which is why we had that section and the Miscellaneous page.
I'll leave it up to him or someone else if they want to bring the Magazine characters section back, but next time don't delete a whole section of a character page without actually discussing it. If you have to bring it up in the Western Animation forum thread cause these discussion pages can be pretty dead and ignored at times.
You there! Check out my Youtube Channel! The power of Ponies compel you!I restored it; There Is No Such Thing As Notability, and each entry has at least one trope (a couple of them just look like they don't because their only tropes are commented out).
Sure every work is notable but there’s a some point where we should draw a line. Do we really need an entry for every recolor that appears in one picture? That’s like making a character entry for the old men who killed the first Orc at Helm’s Deep or the Combine who told Gordon Freeman to pick up the trash.
For "Goldcap, Decepticolt and Zappityhoof" character page, I wanted to add the trope Two Girls and a Guy, but I am not sure if it fits.