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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Sep 5th 2019 at 7:07:02 AM •••

So... is it actually confirmed that Mad Pierrot's shield works Dune-style? The article talks very concretely about it only working against supersonic attacks and that this weakness is the reason for the project's failure (... I would think the subject being insane and killing everyone would be more a cause, mind you) but I know neither of these things are confirmed in the show itself. Is there supplemental material confirming it?

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Unsung Since: Jun, 2016
Sep 5th 2019 at 7:20:05 PM •••

Nothing I've found so far, though given the density of sci-fi references the show makes, it wouldn't surprise me. The movie if not the book at the very least seems like it would've been on the creators' radar. But I can't confirm it.

The Crippling Overspecialization entry as written does seem pretty speculative/WMG, could probably be removed. We could reword the faster-than-sound phrasing elsewhere. Any other parts you were looking at? The episode doesn't confirm much, but the shield only goes up for explosions and bullets, not Spike's hand-to-hand strikes, which Pierrot just blocks or dodges, or that final knife toss. So while I don't know that we can confirm it works exactly like Dune, I don't think it's an unfair comparison based on what we see.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Sep 6th 2019 at 5:58:57 AM •••

I'm going to take out the speculation that it doesn't work against anything subsonic (honestly, that's so specific that I've got to cut it without citation, even if we do agree that it's speed based), cut Crippling Overspecialization entirely, and mention that how the shield works is unexplained.

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Therapsid Since: Dec, 2011
Jun 8th 2013 at 1:55:55 PM •••

Shouldn't the trio of old guys be listed under the recurring characters tab? While they had pretty minor parts they still managed to show up in quite a few episodes as well as the movie. I think they might have had the most appearances of any of the non-crew characters after Punch and Judy.

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SalmonPunch Since: Feb, 2013
Jun 10th 2013 at 5:20:58 AM •••

Sounds good. In all honesty they are such iconic extras I had assumed they had their own entry and only noticed they didn't when you mentioned it.

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Unsung Since: Jun, 2016
Jul 30th 2018 at 12:34:50 PM •••

@uratapu We're an English language wiki but a global website, and we're a wiki which means contributions happen on a voluntary basis. If it bothers you that not all of the dub actors are represented here, feel free to go out and look up that information and add it — don't remove valid information that's already here.

BlazingTrolls Since: Nov, 2017
Jul 30th 2018 at 5:44:34 PM •••

You should have created a new topic for this. You should take this to ask the troopers and see what the mods think. If they say put we go with that, of not we go with that.

Unsung Since: Jun, 2016
Mar 3rd 2019 at 1:00:47 PM •••

@Contrafour Per this Ask the Tropers discussion here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=73448&type=att , I believe the standard is to use the latest official translation, which in this case is the dub.

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Stepjam Since: Feb, 2011
Oct 25th 2013 at 8:00:55 PM •••

All the instances of the theory that the movie is a dying dream for Spike seem a bit unnecessary. The movie begins with Spike going to sleep on the Bebop, and ends with him waking up on the Bebop. Seems to me, it was just a normal dream, plus I believe the movie canonically takes place between episodes 22 and 23. I wanna make this change, but just wanna make sure that it would be okay. Its bugging me a bit.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Oct 25th 2013 at 8:22:35 PM •••

Seems fine by me. There's no reason to think it was a Dying Dream other than the fact he, at some point, died (probably). Even "it was a dream" stuff is still technically speculation.

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SmileTown Since: Nov, 2014
Nov 11th 2014 at 1:53:28 AM •••

I'm a newb in actually posting but my revised five-man band. Spike= the hero. Faye= the sixth ranger. Jet= the lancer. Ein= the smart guy. Ed= the chick

SmileTown Since: Nov, 2014
Nov 11th 2014 at 1:56:26 AM •••

Jet is also "the big guy" and "the big good"... "team mom also"

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