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lu127 MOD PaperMaster Since: Sep, 2011
PaperMaster
Jul 6th 2012 at 8:13:28 AM •••

Pulled:

  • The White Prince: Pretty much everything in his life has been mapped out for him, so he tends to just go with what he's told.

The White Prince has been renamed and redefined as Sheltered Aristocrat. There is not enough context to tell if it fits here. See How To Write An Example.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
CyricZ CyricZ Since: Jul, 2011
CyricZ
May 14th 2012 at 10:28:48 AM •••

Erica: Gender Bender or Transsexual?

I make this discussion topic in light of a recent edit that claimed the former and not the latter. The edit reason by the user is given as follows:

"wrong trope: he became a woman out of desperation to save his own life, not out of any psychological compulsion to do so"

I say it's Transsexual. There's nothing to suggest the operation was done so Erica could save her own life, unless the user in question found dialogue or information that I hadn't yet.

If "save one's own life" refers to the nightmares, I... seriously doubt that. Erica herself is only aware of the rumor nature of the nightmares, not the truth behind them. To change one's biology for the sake of a rumor seems a bit off.

There WAS discussion with Erica about her disappearing at some time during her young life, but she said the rumors were unsubstantiated and that she was staying with a friend. Also, while the conclusion can be drawn that it was at this time in her life that she had the operation, there's no direct evidence.

I don't want to seem picky about this, but I've always thought it was nice to get a good transsexual character into video games and not have it be a big deal, and to have someone say it's not true is something I would contest.

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behkuh Since: Dec, 2009
May 21st 2012 at 7:12:51 PM •••

It's pretty widely agreed she's transsexual.

The thing that gets me is, she has the nightmares too. So, is Atlus saying that she is not a 'real' woman? Or was it just a throwaway, meant as another hint?

CyricZ Since: Jul, 2011
May 22nd 2012 at 10:03:50 AM •••

Maybe it's just Dumuzid saying he doesn't think of her as a real woman. Let's not forget that for all his posturing, he's really not as omniscient about people as he believes he is.

Kn9 Since: Apr, 2010
May 22nd 2012 at 10:10:32 AM •••

He's also an ancient Mesopotamian fertility god, he's probably not the most progressive guy around.

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