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Wouldn't Azrael count as a member of the Bat Family?
(Why can't we delegate these things?)
Should this page be split? It's getting rather large, and with another game coming it will just get worse to try and edit.
I'm thinking it should be split into Batfamily, Rogues Gallery, Arkham Staff, and Gotham Citizens.
Ja, go ahead and do so.
Just in case anyone has somehow not finished the first game (Arkham Asylum), there are spoilers below.
Okay, I know there was a debate about this on Headscratchers for Batman Arkham Asylum...but should we really be listing Quincy Sharp as Ax-Crazy? I always thought Ax-Crazy meant a character who randomly kills people. The page says he's Ax-Crazy because he wants to burn Poison Ivy alive.
Sharp wanting to kill Poison Ivy does not make him Ax-Crazy in my books. Isn't he a Knight Templar Well-Intentioned Extremist? Poison Ivy has killed at least hundreds of people, according to the previous game and has killed many in the comics. Sharp wants to kill the supervillains who keep busting out of the Cardboard Prison that is Arkham. Although this would save a lot of lives, I can understand how it might not be the most moral decision (especially since most DC Superheroes follow Thou Shalt Not Kill)...but does it make him Ax-Crazy? Then again, being burnt alive would be REALLY painful...
Does anyone else think we should remove Sharp's listing as Ax-Crazy?
If it's Not An Example: Delete it. You should add an edit-reason, but that's it.
I think they say he's Ax-Crazy because of how he keeps disturbingly contemplating the particularly cruel ways he wants to kill these people.
Well, if he IS an example: DON'T delete it, but elaborate. I'm not sure myself if Quincy fits (didn't read the Ax-Crazy-page for quite some time), but there has to be something that makes it clear he's an example or not.
From the Ax-Crazy page: "An "ax crazy" character is someone who is psychologically unstable and presents a clear danger to others. Ax crazies are capable of extreme violence, whether carried out with a Slasher Smile, a Creepy Monotone, or out and out murderous rage, and with no way of knowing just what will set them off, this makes them extremely frightening to deal with."
I would say that fits Sharp, since he considers murdering Poison Ivy and Harley, and actully does try to kill The Joker and Killer Croc. Also, he actully did murder a random inmate to vent out his frustrations at failing to kill Croc.
Should he also be refered to as "The Spirit of Arkham", since the rest of the villians have both their real name and villian name when both are availible? He does refer to himself as such in the messages he leaves.
Yeah, I agree with Forgotten Jedi on this one. I guess I misunderstood Ax-Crazy. I wonder if we should add more details on what Sharp has done/attempted to do and why. As for referring to him as the Spirit of Arkham, we could put that...but I would suggest putting the "Spirit of Arkham" in spoiler text (since in Arkham Asylum, you had to collect the messages to find this out).
In Arkam City he earns the trope anyway.
Come on. Do we really need this? There's already Characters.Batman, and this will likely end as a duplicate.
And it's a complete stub. Add something or someone (probably me) will cutlist this.
Likely end as a duplicate?
Normally, I might agree with you. But as it is... Not exactly. The game is closely based upon the comics, but it has explicitly been identified as an Alternate Continuity by the second game. Many characters are similar to their comic-book counterparts, but they also seem to differ in certain ways and have instances that are specific only to them (Hugo Strange has never met Batman before until the events of the second game, for example). And some seem to be complete overhauls (Tim Drake has never looked like this◊ before, nor had cage fighting as part of his backstory). That and certain characters are unique to the continuity of the game (or at least, debuted in this continuity).
That is why I felt a Character Sheet might be worth including here in the same way there are sheets for The Dark Knight Saga and Batman: The Brave and the Bold... it seems that the makers intended to turn this into a series of sorts, the games are very popular amongst the fanbase, and seem to have enough character-specific events to set them apart (even if only slightly) from others.
Fair enough. Didn't consider these drastic backstory-changes; I really should spend more time with previews for this :P
Btw., I'll create some redirects so we will no longer need those links on the mainpages.
Believe me, I was just as surprised at some of the changes as anyone.
And much obliged on those redirects.
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