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Aug 31st 2019 at 1:12:49 PM •••

Why isn\'t Horrible/Fan Film in the Permanent Red Link Club?

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Aug 31st 2019 at 5:01:49 PM •••

Use this thread to ask for it to be added.

EDIT: Sorry. I have no idea why it goes to a 404 page.

Edited by FridgeGuy2016
Jun 10th 2019 at 11:43:54 AM •••

What about tropes that used to have Real Life subpages before they became No Real Life Examples Please? Do said subpages join this club?

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Jun 10th 2019 at 3:51:33 PM •••

I honestly think that they should, but that\'s ultimately a decision probably best left to the moderators.

Jul 19th 2019 at 4:53:18 PM •••

It seems Narm used to have a Real Life subpage before it was made NRLEP. If so, then shouldn\'t the former RL subpages for Disproportionate Retribution, Foreshadowing, and Nightmare Fuel also be listed here?

Oct 22nd 2018 at 6:00:26 PM •••

So... the So Bad Its Horrible Software page was cut due to Idiot Programming being a trope, but that\'s part of the red link club, too?

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Oct 23rd 2018 at 3:03:16 AM •••

It\'s just the \"Main\" namespaces for both pages that were cut. They still have pages on the Darth Wiki.

Nov 10th 2018 at 2:05:02 AM •••

Even without a Main/ redirect, the existence of DarthWiki.Idiot Programming would have made links to Main.Idiot Programming appear blue until the 1.8 site update, which occurred this year and fixed an issue previously brought up on this discussion page. It looks like links to nonexistent pages still appear blue on discussion pages, though.

Edited by GastonRabbit
Jan 30th 2017 at 12:44:46 AM •••

Parvum Opus and Selective Squick haven't been added to the Red Link Club even though they've long been cut; should they be added? If not, why?

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Nov 26th 2017 at 2:05:10 AM •••

This isn't just for any cut page. It's for cut pages that that the mods and admins absolutely don't want to come back.

Edited by GastonRabbit
Jan 14th 2016 at 7:32:35 AM •••

I don't remember sliding scale of antiheroes being problematic. I remember one user saying that it should be broken into individual tropes and that decision winning a crowner, the policy to change every type number to a link to one of the resulting pages but not one "problem" that suggested making the page a functioning red link to a redirect. I participated in the the whole thing, around the same time zero content examples got the % treatment.

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Jan 14th 2016 at 11:55:00 PM •••

If memory serves, people kept linking to the page even after the redirection.

Berrenta MOD
Sep 5th 2015 at 8:19:50 PM •••

As I was looking through, I noticed that some actually appear as blue links. Clicking one leads to some disambiguation pages for other subpages on the subject. Is there a way to resolve this?

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Jun 25th 2015 at 1:48:51 AM •••

Can't be done. The page collides with the title of a troper page.

Mar 29th 2015 at 4:24:15 AM •••

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I still think we should reconsider Horrible/Fanfic, which I thought was one of the most entertaining articles on the wiki. Perhaps with tighter restrictions, as several (SEVERAL, not all or even most — I know it was a considerable problem pre-locking.) of the fics there were horrible for reasons that DON'T violate the 5P.

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Mar 29th 2015 at 6:07:27 AM •••

That'd be something for the 5P to decide, I think.

Mar 29th 2015 at 9:05:15 AM •••

Yes. What would be the problem if we just made "don't include Rule 34 works" a rule for the page, likely commented at the top as a reminder, just like we don't list pornographic works in trope pages anymore? I hope they consider that, as we already do similar things warning against certain types of examples in several pages.

I can't petition them using the provided platform, unfortunately, as I'm not ready to ask for my posting privileges back.

Edited by BaffleBlend
Mar 29th 2015 at 2:20:03 PM •••

Thanks. I'm gonna' take a scrub through the Internet Archive of the old article so I can filter out all the sexually explicit/backhanded recommendation/author bashing ones so, if it's successfully allowed to come back, some of the work will have already been done. And if it's not allowed back... hey, I'll have an offline copy of the article.

Mar 29th 2015 at 3:02:00 PM •••

Not getting much opinions on this but they are tepid at best. Maybe in the future, when the site overhaul comes.

Mar 29th 2015 at 5:25:38 PM •••

Ahkay. Thanks for helping me try, anyway.

Jan 31st 2015 at 9:38:38 AM •••

I have noticed the following pages, which redirect to their proper names (and namespaces in most cases), are still constantly being abused, and—you'd better brace yourselves—I would like to nominate them to be "Deliberate Redlinks" (a la This Troper):

I'm gonna get a lot of flack for suggesting these be Redlinked, but I don't care.

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Jan 31st 2015 at 11:24:45 AM •••

The first 8 pages are still acceptable to use. As for the second, the Trope Repair Shop decided to keep the redirect as is.

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Jan 30th 2015 at 9:43:44 PM •••

Could someone making a note that Citation Needed is blue because of the weblog with that name that has entries here?

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Jan 31st 2015 at 2:49:30 AM •••

Nah, I think it's fairly pointless. I might add a note about bluelinks, though.

Jan 24th 2015 at 7:06:53 PM •••

Why is Media Watchdogs listed in the other category? I'm not a fan of a lot of them but a plural tense for a redirect being blacklisted is a bit much and incongruous.

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Jan 25th 2015 at 2:07:47 AM •••

Because it's a plural redirect. We don't want these.

Sep 18th 2014 at 6:50:39 PM •••

Should we add an entry for Pattycakes? Cause... it doesn't look like anyone's making a page for that one soon. And thank God, that fic was awful!

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Sep 19th 2014 at 1:22:24 AM •••

No, that is covered under the general 5P entry.

Jul 19th 2014 at 3:09:31 PM •••

I noticed that in the Red Link Club there was a page for "Pokemon Blackand White The Movie" mentioned. Shouldn't it state something like "you may have been looking for "Pokémon the Movie: Black/White".

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Jul 6th 2014 at 9:51:28 PM •••

The page currently says that "Cute Kids And Robots" was "pretty pointless since children's shows by definition feature a lot of children." Children's shows don't have to feature children in the cast. They often do, but it's not necessary "by definition."

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Jul 7th 2014 at 12:40:29 AM •••

Eh, I don't read it that absolutely. Much childrens' material will feature kids.

Mar 7th 2014 at 1:42:00 PM •••

Some of the Red Links on this page are actually blue links now. Most of them are locked, but some aren't. I suggest that someone move the Locked Pages to the Locked Pages page and the unlocked pages be looked into to prevent future vandalism.

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Mar 8th 2014 at 12:46:02 AM •••

This is an artifact of the new way the redlinker works; it shows a page as blue if there is at least one working page under that title.

Jan 16th 2014 at 7:00:37 PM •••

Is there a reason Green Aesop is in red? It doesn't appear on the red link page and it links fine.

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Jan 17th 2014 at 12:44:31 AM •••

One of its subpages was cutlisted and cut. That makes all the pages with the same title appear as red until you re-edit it.

Jan 2nd 2014 at 12:13:29 PM •••

Why is Yugioh Abridged redlinked visually, but still a link?

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Jan 2nd 2014 at 12:40:27 PM •••

Glitch.

EDIT: Fixed.

Edited by 156.33.241.8
Nov 24th 2013 at 3:20:24 PM •••

Why is Ymmv Code of Princess and Persona 5 redlinked?

Its particularly absurd to see Persona 5 red linked.

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Nov 24th 2013 at 4:22:11 PM •••

Presumably, the pages got cutlisted, which auto-locks the page.

You can go to this thread to request that they be unlocked.

Nov 15th 2013 at 7:30:38 AM •••

Most of the links I have seen for Kaizo Mario World are redlinks, yet the page still exists, and it can still be edited.

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Nov 15th 2013 at 8:10:21 AM •••

Little glitch. Looks like a subpage was cut, which for some reason redlinks a page until it gets edited. I fixed it with a null edit.

Dec 4th 2013 at 4:21:02 PM •••

Matter of fact, there are a lot of links for existing pages that show up as red links (like the ones scene on Chuggaaconroy's Funny page). EDIT: Oh, so that's what you meant by a "null edit". Okay, fixed now.

Edited by 50.158.100.89
Oct 18th 2013 at 8:38:26 PM •••

Can someone add All Asians Are Alike as a red link club member? It can be near Heroic Sociopath.

Oct 11th 2013 at 3:08:44 PM •••

Why We Are All Pokémon Trainers is now redlinked?

Also, for some reason, half of the links here are now blue, which nullifies the meaning of this page.

Edited by 83.138.198.171
Sep 16th 2013 at 5:14:23 PM •••

It seems Rockapella is permanently redlinked now. Is it because they're mostly known for doing the theme song for Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego??

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Telcontar MOD
Sep 17th 2013 at 2:16:27 AM •••

I assume it's because that page was in the Main/ namespace and was therefore cut (but not barred from having a page in the future). Musicians belong in Music/.

Sep 13th 2013 at 2:01:14 PM •••

Sorry to suggest a preemptive strike, but I was thinking a page on Beatrice Welles would be overly controversial, considering that fans of Orson Welles might come by such a page and fill it with hate against her for, among other things, tampering with Othello and only allowing the tampered-with mess to be released. Now, keeping Ted Turner's crayons away from Citizen Kane is quite understandable (and even Ted Turner himself said he didn't really want to colorize that film anyway), but what she did to Othello is unforgivable IMHO. However, I know better than to create a page on Beatrice Welles simply to drive that point home.

Edited by 71.80.74.223
Aug 31st 2013 at 8:49:34 PM •••

I'm going to make a stand and say this: this page is too fucking long. Let's prune this list down to anything that actually needs to be gone.

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Telcontar MOD
Sep 1st 2013 at 2:18:11 AM •••

If you have any suggestions for things which can be removed from this list, please take them to the forum.

Jul 26th 2013 at 5:15:42 PM •••

I am not familiar with Zelda, but is it possible to wield a club in it ? If true, it would be a better pun to use an image there red Link wields a club.

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Apr 16th 2017 at 1:45:02 PM •••

I know that this thread is a few years old, but as of 2017 Link can wield a club while wearing clothes that are dyed red.

Jun 23rd 2013 at 6:13:29 PM •••

Would someone get rid of this Swamp Critters thing? Because I wasn't paying attention to this link saying the "Main" is suppose to be changed into "series" because it's a Live Action TV series.

This is the correct link. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/SwampCritters

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Telcontar MOD
Jun 23rd 2013 at 11:24:41 PM •••

I've placed it on the Cut List, so the moderators should remove it soon. Thanks for contributing to the wiki!

Mar 31st 2013 at 3:25:23 PM •••

About abbreviations, what can we do to clear the air regarding the confusion of "MW?" As far as I know, it stands for two things: Mech Warrior and Modern Warfare. Considering the fact that Modern Warfare 3 has on its cover "MW 3" and that MW was the original abbreviation for Mech Warrior 1 and 2 (in fact, the actual simulation executables were MW.exe and MW 2.exe), I just want to know if you the admins had some idea how to deal with it.

I'm only asking because I've seen a few You Tube debacles when people were bashing Mech Warrior 2 and 3 videos when they were looking for Modern Warfare.

Dec 28th 2012 at 2:59:48 AM •••

I think we agreed not to list these pages in the PRLC. Discuss it here if you disagree.

  • Main.Caligula: Technically this was cut as part of the new content policy, but is listed here as the most high-profile casualty of that policy. Though some users attempted to argue that the film had merits beyond its pornographic content, it will never be restored due to the precedent that would be set by allowing a pornographic work page to remain simply because of its notoriety.

Dec 5th 2012 at 6:26:52 AM •••

Not having come across this page before joining the It Got Worse rename to From Bad to Worse, I left/created a number of PotHoles by leaving the original text, instead of adjusting the text to fit the new name. These may have to be addressed if it becomes annoying by inducing people to use the old phrase.

My apologies.

Edited by Lokimaros
Jul 18th 2012 at 1:25:21 AM •••

I noted that several of the initialism redirects don't work anymore. This should be reflected in the text.

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Aug 17th 2012 at 9:16:57 AM •••

In fact, I wonder why we should list initialisms here when there's just too many to list. I'm thinking we should remove that list and just say that ALL initialisms are deleted for good.

Jun 2nd 2012 at 12:03:05 AM •••

I noticed a trope called Crowning Moment Of Horror is blank and locked, but isn't on the list. Anybody know why?

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Telcontar MOD
Jun 2nd 2012 at 1:59:05 AM •••

Just being cut isn't enough to go on this list. It was probably cut for overlapping with Nightmare Fuel and all.

May 22nd 2012 at 3:53:31 PM •••

Are we going to list all the ones that were removed in the 5P purge?

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May 23rd 2012 at 2:42:32 PM •••

^That would turn this page into a directory of porn and paedo-pornography. No thanks.

May 26th 2012 at 2:48:04 AM •••

It would help to know which works are off-limits. Being controversial isn't enough. For example, I came to this page via a link in From the Mouths of Babes to Kodomo No Jikan which is a locked red-link. I hadn't been aware that the purge was going to extend to works as well, so this took me by surprise.

If there's not going to be information on the page for the work itself about the purge, then it needs to be collected somewhere to prevent confusion for the majority of users who are not heavily involved on the forums. This site does attract new users occasionally who might want to know what the deal is.

Edited by Kurtulmak
May 26th 2012 at 5:40:58 AM •••

You want this place. Also, it's always a good idea to look around the forums when you have questions.

Jun 20th 2012 at 10:45:19 PM •••

So is it never gonna come back? If so, can we list it here?

Jun 21st 2012 at 12:34:52 AM •••

^No. Please read the comment in the page source.

May 7th 2012 at 1:54:35 PM •••

I've noticed Creepy Sexy isn't on this list... And yet it's been cut.

Edited by Jojolavache
Apr 15th 2012 at 4:35:25 PM •••

Any real reason Sweet Apple Massacre was removed? There seemed to be no trouble with it as far as I could tell.

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May 16th 2012 at 5:22:42 PM •••

It violated the Five P policy by being a trollfic that had rape with underage characters.

Edited by toonyloon
Apr 14th 2012 at 1:54:52 AM •••

Re the commenting-out of the "paedophilia" and "sex" pages:

As mentioned here, nothing is decided there, so please don't add anything from this category here. It's premature.

Apr 12th 2012 at 7:51:12 PM •••

Baby Got Back isn't here, it was a trope but got cut due to people only using it for Perverse Sexual Lust.

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Apr 14th 2012 at 3:35:03 PM •••

Oh never mind, apparently Baby Got Back is getting a rehaul why they decide what to do? IDK.

Mar 14th 2012 at 8:31:36 PM •••

The real life section of Eldritch Abomination was recently cut. Would it qualify for the PRLC under the "no real life examples" section?

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Mar 14th 2012 at 10:21:30 PM •••

Sure, just be sure to explain why it was cut, and neutrally.

Mar 11th 2012 at 3:26:36 AM •••

Pulling the following examples and putting them here for now:

  • Scientific Progress Goes Oi: Not A Trope. Listed almost exclusively Real Life examples, and the Calvin And Hobbes-esque title likely confused certain people.
  • Baby Got Back: The page had an uncomfortably drooling tone in regards to descriptions of the relevant body part, and it was eventually decided that there was not enough of an actual trope for it to be worth cleaning up the page — the whole thing amounted to "people with big butts."
  • Innocent Panties: Overly creepy page about children's panties showing without sexual meaning.
  • Naked Shotaro Boy: Was a listing of works which feature nude prepubescent boys. Do we even need to explain why it was cut?
  • O Ring Orifice: Disgusting page about the ability of bodily orifices to stretch wide in fiction works.

Scientific Progress Goes Oi has no reason to be here - please don't add page here without a good reason.

Baby Got Back, Innocent Panties, O Ring Orifice most definitely don't belong where they were put, and I have doubts that the names are bad enough to have them here - it's about names, not pages!

Naked Shotaro Boy: Yes, you do need to explain.

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Mar 11th 2012 at 12:47:51 PM •••

How about putting them is a new section ("Overly sexual pages", or something like that?)

Mar 11th 2012 at 1:38:42 PM •••

I think we first need to tighten the standards for putting pages here. It's quickly becoming a place to Complain About Pages You Don't Like

Mar 11th 2012 at 2:18:26 PM •••

I see. Probably we could include a hidden message for every section pointing out that complaining abour (or poking fun ot) cut pages is not the idea of the article. If all else fails, we should probably lock the page, but that should be the last resort.

Edited by SNDL
Mar 11th 2012 at 2:27:31 PM •••

I already added one in the source. Let's see if it sticks, but I've the feeling that several sections don't belong here at all (cut then recreated, other/unsorted).

Mar 11th 2012 at 3:08:43 PM •••

The "cut then recreated" section dates back to before we started autolocking cut pages. People would recreate pages after they were cut, and they had to be locked manually. Same goes for the other/unsorted section - many of them were perma-redlinked before cut pages were autolocked.

Mar 11th 2012 at 3:15:38 PM •••

Yeah. I am just not sure if we still need these sections. In fact, I think that the "cut then recreated" section can be deleted and the Did Not Do The Research pages can be added as a sub-group of the exampleless section.

Mar 11th 2012 at 3:41:52 PM •••

I see no reason to remove them.

As for those 5 examples, I'd say they all belong here except for Scientific Progress Goes Oi. But they don't really fit under any of the current sections. They'd either have to go under unsorted or an entirely new section.

Mar 11th 2012 at 3:57:32 PM •••

I've the feeling that "other/unsorted" is an euphemism for "no good reason".

I can get behind Naked Shotaro Boy being put back, maybe Innocent Panties as well, but everything else's justification for being PRLC'ed is rather flimsy.

Mar 11th 2012 at 4:22:26 PM •••

Again, most of the "other/unsorted" ones are merely artifacts from before the autolock system was added. Even if they weren't the kind of thing we'd put here if they were cut today, back then this was for all cut-and-locked-pages. In fact, I'm pretty sure the only one of those that doesn't predate autolocking is Title Bin.

Edited by MyTimingIsOff
Mar 11th 2012 at 4:28:37 PM •••

In that case, the only item in "other" that is actually Permanent Red Link Club-worthy is It Looks Like This. The others can be removed, I'd say.

Mar 12th 2012 at 10:18:16 AM •••

I think that a reordering of the page into PRLC-eing categories would be useful:

  • Pages cut for creating issues on the rest of the wiki
  • Pages made in violation of wiki policy
  • Redundant pages

Jan 27th 2012 at 2:13:12 PM •••

OK, so something is confusing me... according to the trope page "Pages that have been cut as of April 2011 are autolocked to prevent people from overriding the cutlist. This page is only for the ones that we don't want coming back ever. If it isn't on [the Perma-Red Link Club], you can..." yadda yadda yadda BUT... What if a page has been cut and autolocked... but doesn't exist in the Cutlist? For example, the page Ironclad is gone and isn't on the Cutlist. And it's not the only one, just the easiest example

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Jan 27th 2012 at 3:35:31 PM •••

By Cut List I think you mean Recent Cuts. Anyway, Ironclad was cut long enough ago to have been dropped off that list. It was cut after April 2011, though, so it's locked. I see how the confusion came about, so I have moved the misleading link on this page.

Feb 1st 2012 at 3:05:21 AM •••

Basically, It means that only people who know why a page was cut can fill the PRLC page.

Jan 24th 2012 at 9:22:51 AM •••

Pulled from the page, because not all pages were cut. Also, I expect some discussion before putting it into the Permanent Red Link Club.

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Dec 1st 2011 at 3:57:01 PM •••

Should Headscratchers.Furry Fandom be put here? I'm leaning toward, "Why even ask?", but I see no reason not to.

EDIT: Well, I put it there. By the way, is there any difference between pages like Headscratchers.Furry Fandom and Headscratchers.Yaoi Fangirl and general Headscratchers complaining pages? If not, then those two items can be removed.

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Jan 5th 2012 at 10:55:09 AM •••

Which I already did. Their PRLC'ing reasons still fall into the category "Complaining About Things You Don't Like.

Dec 1st 2011 at 7:12:23 AM •••

Quick bit of advice, from one troper to the rest: when adding a page to the club, please remember to go through the wiki and remove any wicks to the new member. If the page was renamed, changing them to the new name will also work. If there are a lot of wicks, try asking for help in Special Efforts. Thank you.

This message has been brought to you by the time I just spent changing all of the remaining "Flaming Fruit Vendors And Angry Arabs" wicks to point to UsefulNotes.Middle East Uprising 2011.

Nov 17th 2011 at 9:07:20 AM •••

I've noticed Fangame is both red and locked, making it an entry here. Any reasoning behind this? If there was a discussion on it, I can't find it. I'm assuming it's because it's Fan Sequel, but more specific, but don't know for sure.

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Nov 30th 2011 at 5:12:11 PM •••

All cut pages are automatically locked now. And looking at the edit history, the page was a stub.

Nov 5th 2011 at 10:04:14 PM •••

Did Comic Party (an anime & manga based on a Japan-Only game) become a member of this? If so, why isn't it listed? If an article for it never existed in the first place, then I'll begin as soon as I get more knowledge about it.

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Nov 30th 2011 at 5:16:52 PM •••

It appears that Comic Party never had a page on this wiki to begin with, because it's not locked and I'm not seeing any edit history for it. If you want to make a page for it, go right ahead, Works Pages Are A Free Launch. Just make sure to put it in the correct namespace.

Oct 11th 2011 at 2:59:43 PM •••

Uwe Boll has been a member for some time. I'm guessing his work was being bashed and that it should go under "Unsorted"; am I right?

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Oct 13th 2011 at 10:02:30 AM •••

It would go under "Pages cut and locked due to being nothing but complaining". I have now put it there.

Edited by Insignificant
Sep 28th 2011 at 6:57:50 PM •••

Big Wrong is now a member of the Permanent Red Link Club. It should probably be added to this page.

Problem is, I don't know which category it should be added under.

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Fighteer MOD
Sep 29th 2011 at 7:08:18 AM •••

It was cut as a result of a TRS thread for being a stock phrase with no actual trope behind it.

Sep 29th 2011 at 7:29:29 AM •••

I guess I'll just put it under unsorted until someone comes along and fixes it.

Sep 10th 2011 at 5:45:21 AM •••

I have a suggestion. If these pages are too controversial to keep on the main wiki, why not move them somewhere else? It's a win-win situation: they stay off the wiki, and people can still see them

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Oct 15th 2011 at 3:14:14 PM •••

Most of these pages were removed simply because they were bad pages. Moving them off the main wiki would simply be giving them too much credit.

Also, the Darth Wiki already exists for people to make pages for controversial topics. The fact that individual DW pages have been cut should demonstrate that mere controversiality is not really a criterion to be put on this page.

Sep 6th 2011 at 1:32:06 PM •••

I'm surprised that Irate Gamer's DNDTR is not part of this club (even though everything on that page has been deleted) but his main page is the one that's locked. Honestly?

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Aug 17th 2011 at 7:54:06 PM •••

Why is Korean Language part of this club?

Edited by Exploder
Aug 15th 2011 at 10:41:59 PM •••

Since Troper Tales is gone, should we remove the listings of Troper Tales considering that every single Troper Tale is now technically locked and deleted?

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Oct 15th 2011 at 3:06:37 PM •••

Well, we might still want to mention specific pages that were cut just so people know what went wrong with them and what to avoid doing on the wiki.

Aug 12th 2011 at 5:12:15 PM •••

Isn't the Celeb Crush Troper Tales page a member of this, too? Why isn't it listed here and why is it redlinked?

Jul 26th 2011 at 2:53:34 AM •••

Readded Abu Ghraib to the page. Noting the Flame Wars it brings, I highly doubt we want that coming back.

Edited by Gundamforce
Jul 4th 2011 at 6:03:20 PM •••

<s>Why is {ptitle70n0mn3c} locked and blank? Wasn't there an article on Pokemon? If this isn't it shouldn't it at least be a redirect since about a hundred pages link to it?</s> UGH I don't even know what that page is anymore, it just appears to me as "Pokemon" and many pages link to it and it doesn't redirect for some reason.

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Jul 4th 2011 at 6:22:49 PM •••

It's a redirect that looks like this: Pokémon. It looks like "Pokémon" but was linking to a "Pokemon"-ptitle [NO accent on th "e"!] It was way too often used, and was also a ptitle-redirect to a ptitle. Unwanted, unneeded, and thanks to the new system, we're now just using {{Pokemon}} (which gives us Pokemon - WITH an accent on the main page!).

Whenever you see ŢPokémonŢ (or ANY "[=~"-created ptitle, or a ptitle to a ptitle), change it. It'd be appreciated.

EDIT: Perhaps we should make it blue again - 'cause at the moment the "Related to"-Button shows absolutely NOTHING. We can delete it again AFTER we purged it from this wiki. ^^

Edited by Grobi
Jun 30th 2011 at 3:06:14 PM •••

On the page, the Lolicon thing is blue. Can someone fix that?

Edited by Chytus
Jun 16th 2011 at 12:29:10 AM •••

Shouldn't The Unfair Sex be here? It's incredibly subjective and quickly turns very very creepy in a privilege-denying-heterosexual-white-guy way. There's so much rage on there against women (or men being "unfairly" punished for violence against women) that it's become pretty disturbing.

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May 23rd 2011 at 7:48:14 PM •••

Should Villainous Sacrifice be here? i found the page started but not edited and without index, so i made the description and was searching for an index, when i found out the page erased and locked, so i'm asking should Villainous Sacrifice be here in the section "Pages for being cut then recreated" section?.

Sorry if in the past Villainous Breakdown was instead of Villainous Sacrifice, i should have commited a terrible mistake, i'm really sorry.

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May 23rd 2011 at 8:42:34 PM •••

Never mind, I read the edit.

Edited by nuclearneo577
Aug 14th 2011 at 7:54:00 AM •••

Hell if I know. Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift have even more prevalent hatedoms, and their pages were created without a problem (and, as it turns out, little to no vandalism!).

Edited by Spinosegnosaurus77
May 10th 2011 at 7:22:18 PM •••

I think this page should be moved to Permanent Red Link Club, since it has to do with the running of the wiki. Thoughts?

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Jan 29th 2012 at 11:15:07 AM •••

Seventeen months and an answer finally came.

Apr 14th 2011 at 8:15:39 PM •••

Really, it's an index covering a variety of tropes (or whatever it is they're considered to be) and I guess we shouldn't have pages splitting off one group of examples from a page.

Apr 2nd 2011 at 3:56:56 PM •••

The Troper Tales.Lolicon link is blue for some reason. Somebody fix that.

Edited by Smasher
Feb 13th 2011 at 7:27:33 PM •••

Who is this "we" so I can know who's ignoring me when I pray? Also, just found out that Crowning Moment Of Awesome is being subtly and slowly pushed off the wiki. TV Tropes just jumped the shark it seems :(

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Mar 1st 2011 at 9:31:29 PM •••

Moment Of Awesome prolly won't go anywhere, we just want to keep it off the main page.

Mar 15th 2011 at 4:41:29 PM •••

Moment Of Awesome wasn't axed. It just found a new home in the Sugar Wiki, that's all.

Edited by RedViking
Feb 12th 2011 at 2:56:32 PM •••

EDIT: I found it again...wha?

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Jan 14th 2011 at 11:50:10 PM •••

Why, exactly, are some of these redlinked instead of just being redirects? GAR, for example, could be a redirect to Testosterone Poisoning, Do Not Want could be redirected to Squick, et cetera.

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Jan 15th 2011 at 11:08:36 AM •••

GAR has been discussed in IJBM, but without reaching any conclusion. What I know is that it used to be a redirect to Badass, until someone made it a separate trope.

Do Not Want has changed its target too (first renamed to Translation Train Wreck which it redirected to, then became redirect to Squick), so perhaps it was too confusing?

Jan 15th 2011 at 11:25:42 AM •••

Do Not Want could be used to express emotions other than disgust, so I think it wouldn't be a good redirect for Squick regardless.

Dec 31st 2010 at 12:50:59 PM •••

The link to Relationship Text Upgrade became blue again after I requested a closure of the Image Pickin' Discussion. How do we change it back? Also, why was the page deleted in the first place?

Nov 30th 2010 at 9:43:18 PM •••

To Glowsquid, thanks for fixing the link. Now I see that it is locked.

Nov 10th 2010 at 1:14:18 PM •••

"Unbirthing: A Squick fetish that you're not likely to see in non-pornographic media."

We have various tropes that only apply to pornographic works (we have an index for them even), so why is "this only happens in porn" a valid reason to cut-lock a page?

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Sep 29th 2010 at 3:34:35 PM •••

What on earth did GAR do to get red linkd? It was a good trope!

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Sep 28th 2010 at 4:52:14 PM •••

Hunh...I thought So Yeah was (by the criteria given) more of a "misuse" deletion than a "bad writing" deletion. Could just be me tho.

Sep 26th 2010 at 1:30:25 PM •••

(Nevermind, I'm an idiot and I need to read upwards.)

Edited by SeanTucker
Sep 7th 2010 at 2:55:40 AM •••

I have a question. What would happen if I'd like to add a work to the site which happens to have a same title as the pages in Permanent Red Link Club?

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Sep 8th 2010 at 8:59:16 AM •••

create a namespace for the kind of work it is (to create a page for a webcomic titled Shadow Persona, type Webcomic/ShadowPersona.

You'd end up with Shadow Persona.

Sep 8th 2010 at 9:25:53 AM •••

There's nothing inherently wrong with the main page, so I'm sure asking for it to be unlocked to create the work page would be okay.

Jan 5th 2012 at 2:39:51 AM •••

But putting a work on Main/ is not OK; see Namespaces.

Sep 3rd 2010 at 11:19:32 PM •••

Weegee is showing up as a redlink for me, but it does exist (a redirect to Mario Is Missing). Is this intentional, or a glitch?

I mean, Weegee is a meme, and we should not spew memes in Main/, but it isn't quite at I Am Not Making This Up or This Troper levels of evil, is it?

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Sep 4th 2010 at 12:54:42 PM •••

Probably a glitch. If the mods didn't like that redirect, they'd delete it, not make it red.

Edit: looks like it's probably a glitch left over from when all the contributor pages were moved to Tropers/.

Edited by CentralAvenue
Sep 5th 2010 at 12:59:36 PM •••

Well now it's red because it's gone, which at least makes sense.

Aug 30th 2010 at 6:23:36 AM •••

I'd like to point out that Please Elaborate wasn't originally intended to be used at all in YKTTW; in fact, making it YKTTW-exclusive was a last-ditch effort by its supports to prevent it being deleted, towards the end of its life.

When originally floated, it was supposed to be a predefined message which someone could leave on an ambiguous example. If somebody familiar with the work in question were to later stumble across it, they would see that tag and thus rewrite the example into a better, clearer one.

As it happened, it invited well-meaning natter. That's why it was deleted, not misuse.

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Jan 13th 2011 at 9:49:14 PM •••

It could still be useful in places like the Fanservice, Fetish Fuel, and various Crowning Moment pages, but I don't know if it's possible to make a page that's a blue link there & a red link everywhere else.

Jan 14th 2011 at 6:15:11 AM •••

It might be possible, but even if it were it would probably be more trouble than it's worth.

Jun 7th 2011 at 2:24:12 PM •••

What if Please Elaborate redirected to X Just X? That way it would stay a red link, but could be used in the edit summary when removing something for not properly explaining it.

Aug 27th 2010 at 4:48:29 PM •••

Other than there being no main page, is there any other reason for So Bad Its Horrible Software to be cut?

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Aug 27th 2010 at 5:24:13 PM •••

IIRC, it's because it was considered outside the scope of the wiki, and had mostly degenerated into Complaining About Programs You Don't Like.

Sep 3rd 2010 at 11:21:35 PM •••

Well, yeah, complaining is complaining, even if the shows you don't like are objectively bad. I won't be surprised if, eventually, the whole So Bad Its Horrible thing is removed from the wiki entirely.

I won't be happy, but I won't be surprised, either.

Dec 26th 2010 at 7:31:22 PM •••

Were here to catalog fiction, not just software.

Edited by DrStarky
Aug 21st 2010 at 1:37:52 AM •••

Why, exactly, does Do Not Want get a red page instead of being a redirect to Squick, given that's pretty much the only way it's used these days?

Edit: Same vein, isn't I Just Want To Be Accepted an actual trope, given that it shows up with reasonable frequency in both Heroes and Villains, admittedly generally only in shows targeted at a specific demographic?

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Aug 21st 2010 at 1:31:20 PM •••

Do Not Want: Good question.

I Just Want To Be Accepted: Presumably the person trying to launch the trope was... being unhelpful.

Sep 18th 2010 at 1:32:20 PM •••

Apparently, at some point, Do Not Want was a redirect to Squick (or so it's claimed on This Index Is Not an Example) but has since been cut from even that. If that ever was a redirect for Squick before it was cut, it might, at least, be worth pointing that out on the main article.

Nov 10th 2010 at 1:09:18 PM •••

I can vouch that the creator of I Just Want To Be Accepted was being unhelpful, I was involved somewhat in his repair shop threads

Aug 12th 2010 at 10:24:10 AM •••

So, does this cover all pages that are both cut and locked (Fred Durst, I Just Want To Be Accepted, Main.Fast Eddie), or just the ones that contribute to bad writing?

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Aug 12th 2010 at 7:31:45 PM •••

I'd personally like to move all the red link descriptions on Locked Pages to this one. In fact, I think I'm going to do that. (After all, where do you draw the line for "contributing to bad writing"? What What Woah? Do Not Want?)

Edited by STUART
Aug 16th 2010 at 9:42:23 AM •••

Yeah, I was actually going to suggest a separate page for cutlocked pages until I found this one.

Aug 11th 2010 at 1:37:03 PM •••

The whole point is to draw attention to these pages. It could be useful tool to let others know what's been cut so no more links are added while the pre-existing ones are deleted.

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Aug 11th 2010 at 1:59:35 PM •••

I don't see why this is necessary when all the examples are on Locked Pages with similar (although less detailed) explanations already.

Aug 11th 2010 at 3:39:36 PM •••

Looking over the above, the difference is that some of those pages are still valid, despite being locked. Permanent Red Link Club is about tropes that had been outright cut or made red for one reason or another. There's a couple of reds in the Locked Pages so we could move them over to their own separate area, which would be this.

Edited by RedViking
Aug 12th 2010 at 6:49:08 AM •••

I definitely want this page here. People need to know why pages have been removed and locked and will never come back so that they will know, for example, not to use So Yeah at the end of sentences.

Aug 12th 2010 at 8:04:37 AM •••

I can see this being somewhat useful. I would vote to keep it.

Aug 12th 2010 at 10:23:47 AM •••

(wait this isn't a reply)

Edited by billybobfred
Aug 12th 2010 at 7:41:56 PM •••

I'm bringing it back, for the reasons stated above.

Also, Fast Eddie made an edit to it, for what that's worth.

Jun 23rd 2013 at 6:12:54 PM •••

Would someone get rid of this Swamp Critters thing? Because I wasn't paying attention to this link saying the "Main" is suppose to be changed into "series" because it's a Live Action TV series.

This is the correct link. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/SwampCritters

Jan 16th 2014 at 6:58:49 PM •••

(accidental post)

Edited by 5.66.16.200
Mar 26th 2014 at 6:58:38 PM •••

I'm just letting you guys know.

For the first time, the Westboro church (outside of Larmie and Theroux) was referenced in an episode of Rick And Morty, where Rick and the teenage daughter (all buffed up) beat up a guy carrying a god hates fags sign.

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