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\\\"I\\\'m saying that the show \\\'\\\'\\\'is very clear that those actions are wrong.\\\'\\\'\\\'\\\"

Time and time again, I\\\'ve given you examples that were deliberately left less than clear cut: The Starscream clone (no, Bulkhead looking guilty is not the same as the show making things \\\"very clear\\\", which is the reason this scene is debated so heavily), the Spark Extractor, and the existence of Wheeljack (kills enemies with sheer delight, goes on personal vengeance quests, doesn\\\'t see anything wrong with planting a bomb on Laserbeak to take out Soundwave, and won\\\'t even stay with Team Prime because their methods clash so drastically.)

\\\"A general rule of thumb as to whether or not black-and-white morality is present is that the heroes are almost always considered to be in the right.\\\"

And they aren\\\'t. You personally consider them to always be right, and you\\\'re contradicting yourself left and right. I\\\'m not putting words in your mouth, you\\\'re putting them in your own.

As for MoralityKitchenSink? Well, let\\\'s see...

You have the Autobots fighting for their beliefs, the Decepticons fighting for their own, and grey areas on both sides. You have humans who side with the Autobots, humans who side with MECH, and the constantly looming shadow of the military, whose first priority is humankind and who \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' terminate Team Prime if they step out of line. You have the Insecticons, whose loyalty is towards the hive and whoever happens to be holding the reins. Soon, we\\\'ll be getting the Predacons.

If it doesn\\\'t fit MoralityKitchenSink, then you\\\'d better go to MoralityKitchenSink and start cutting half the page. Because under your logic, all those examples \\\"\\\'\\\'\\\'do. not. fit.\\\'\\\'\\\'

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\\\"I\\\'m saying that the show \\\'\\\'\\\'is very clear that those actions are wrong.\\\'\\\'\\\'\\\"

Time and time again, I\\\'ve given you examples that were deliberately left less than clear cut: The Starscream clone (no, Bulkhead looking guilty is not the same as the show making things \\\"very clear\\\", which is the reason this scene is debated so heavily), the Spark Extractor, and the existence of Wheeljack (kills enemies with sheer delight, goes on personal vengeance quests, doesn\\\'t see anything wrong with planting a bomb on Laserbeak to take out Soundwave, and won\\\'t even stay with Team Prime because their methods clash so drastically.)

\\\"A general rule of thumb as to whether or not black-and-white morality is present is that the heroes are almost always considered to be in the right.\\\"

And they aren\\\'t. You personally consider them to always be right, and you\\\'re contradicting yourself left and right. I\\\'m not putting words in your mouth, you\\\'re putting them in your own.

As for MoralityKitchenSink? Well, let\\\'s see...

You have the Autobots fighting for their beliefs, the Decepticons fighting for their own, and grey areas on both sides. You have humans who side with the Autobots, humans who side with MECH, and the constantly looming shadow of the military, whose first priority is humankind and who \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' terminate Team Prime if they step out of line. You have the Insecticons, whose loyalty is towards the hive and whoever happens to be holding the reins. Soon, we\\\'ll be getting the Predacons.

If it doesn\\\'t fit MoralityKitchenSink, then you\\\'d better go to MoralityKitchenSink and start cutting half the page. Because under your logic, those examples \\\"\\\'\\\'\\\'do. not. fit.\\\'\\\'\\\'

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\\\"I\\\'m saying that the show \\\'\\\'\\\'is very clear that those actions are wrong.\\\'\\\'\\\'\\\"

Time and time again, I\\\'ve given you examples that were deliberately left less than clear cut: The Starscream clone (no, Bulkhead looking guilty is not the same as the show making things \\\"very clear\\\", which is the reason this scene is debated so heavily), the Spark Extractor, and the existence of Wheeljack (kills enemies with sheer delight, goes on personal vengeance quests, doesn\\\'t see anything wrong with planting a bomb on Laserbeak to take out Soundwave, and won\\\'t even stay with Team Prime because their methods clash so drastically.)

\\\"A general rule of thumb as to whether or not black-and-white morality is present is that the heroes are almost always considered to be in the right.\\\"

And they aren\\\'t. You personally consider them to always be right, and you\\\'re contradicting yourself left and right. I\\\'m not putting words in your mouth, you\\\'re putting them in your own.

As for MoralityKitchen sink? Well, let\\\'s see...

You have the Autobots fighting for their beliefs, the Decepticons fighting for their own, and grey areas on both sides. You have humans who side with the Autobots, humans who side with MECH, and the constantly looming shadow of the military, whose first priority is humankind and who \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' terminate Team Prime if they step out of line. You have the Insecticons, whose loyalty is towards the hive and whoever happens to be holding the reins. Soon, we\\\'ll be getting the Predacons.

If it doesn\\\'t fit MoralityKitchenSink, then you\\\'d better go to MoralityKitchenSink and start cutting half the page. Because under your logic, those examples \\\"\\\'\\\'\\\'do. not. fit.\\\'\\\'\\\'

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