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- I didn\'t intend, nor do I think that what I wrote sounds like \
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- I didn\\\'t intend, nor do I think that what I wrote sounds like \\\"eeeeevil US military makes a habit of firing on civilians for no reason\\\"; stating as such makes me sound like a StrawmanPolitical, aka, I feel it\\\'s down right insulting.
- I completely and utterly disagree with your assessment of what the video shows, I strongly believe that it shows that either the rules of engagement of the US army in a civilian heavy area are terribly and almost criminally misguided or that the pilots acted in a way that no modern army/air-force should deem acceptable.
- I disagree that the A-10 video is as close as to the Reuter\\\'s death, at least as it is seen on the Wikipedia page. I also disagree that that particular video was close to anyone\\\'s mind as you claim, or that it was as famous. The AC-10 video they based it on, however, is somewhat similar, although the gun-ho behavior in the game is much closer to the Reuters video.
- However, although I stand behind my assessment of a MoralEvenHorizon, I\\\'m willing to concede that this is a particular interpretation (which consists simply that despite the fact you\\\'re being punished for hitting civilians, in a real situation, \\\'collateral damage\\\' in such a place would be inevitable) and where disagreement is perfectly understandable.
Despite both your arguments, I still feel that this trope should be here, as [[http://kotaku.com/5510188/us-army-accused-of-video-game+like-behavior-in-disturbing-leaked-iraq-war-video many]], [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/05/wikileaks-exposes-video-o_n_525569.html many]], [[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/05/video-appears-forces-firing-unarmed-suspects-baghdad/ many]] media outlets saw fit to put in the comparisons made between what the video shows (and the attitude demonstrated by the pilots) and videogames / gamers, and there\\\'s no game where this sort of comparison is more appropriate. As such, I\\\'ll propose a new text below, if both of you still disagree, or feel there\\\'s no way of working this trope here for other reasons, I\\\'ll drop the subject and say no more:
* HarsherInHindsight: [[http://www.collateralmurder.com/ The footage of the deaths of Reuter\\\'s employees in 2007 in Iraq]] can make the gunship mission in MW quite disturbing, as there are many parallels between them, specially in the attitudes demonstrated by the involved in both cases.
- I completely and utterly disagree with your assessment of what the video shows, I strongly believe that it shows that either the rules of engagement of the US army in a civilian heavy area are terribly and almost criminally misguided or that the pilots acted in a way that no modern army/air-force should deem acceptable.
- I disagree that the A-10 video is as close as to the Reuter\\\'s death, at least as it is seen on the Wikipedia page. I also disagree that that particular video was close to anyone\\\'s mind as you claim, or that it was as famous. The AC-10 video they based it on, however, is somewhat similar, although the gun-ho behavior in the game is much closer to the Reuters video.
- However, although I stand behind my assessment of a MoralEvenHorizon, I\\\'m willing to concede that this is a particular interpretation (which consists simply that despite the fact you\\\'re being punished for hitting civilians, in a real situation, \\\'collateral damage\\\' in such a place would be inevitable) and where disagreement is perfectly understandable.
Despite both your arguments, I still feel that this trope should be here, as [[http://kotaku.com/5510188/us-army-accused-of-video-game+like-behavior-in-disturbing-leaked-iraq-war-video many]], [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/05/wikileaks-exposes-video-o_n_525569.html many]], [[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/05/video-appears-forces-firing-unarmed-suspects-baghdad/ many]] media outlets saw fit to put in the comparisons made between what the video shows (and the attitude demonstrated by the pilots) and videogames / gamers, and there\\\'s no game where this sort of comparison is more appropriate. As such, I\\\'ll propose a new text below, if both of you still disagree, or feel there\\\'s no way of working this trope here for other reasons, I\\\'ll drop the subject and say no more:
* HarsherInHindsight: [[http://www.collateralmurder.com/ The footage of the deaths of Reuter\\\'s employees in 2007 in Iraq]] can make the gunship mission in MW quite disturbing, as there are many parallels between them, specially in the attitudes demonstrated by the involved in both cases.
