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It\\\'s a bit more complex than that, as I don\\\'t subscribe to absolute WhatIsEvil amorality. There are definitely plenty of people who are downright ridiculously evil existing in RealLife, and hopefully an even greater number of genuinely good ones, although the thing is that the majority are \\\"just people\\\" as you say, whereas the genuinely evil or genuinely good ones generally tend to be mixed together on all sides.

If you want my full analysis regarding the true nature of ridiculously extreme evil, then the room here is far too limited, but a absolutely entitled, and incredibly petty, casual serial-torturer, rapist, and murderer driven by an intense feeling of supremacism definitely qualifies.

If you wish a far more in-depth exploration, please free to read the entirety of my story if you wish. It\\\'s where I originally started to process all of my impressions.

Still she has grown more ambivalent. It\\\'s just that I can\\\'t really make a coherent picture out of what the writers are trying to sell, or more fairly, the odd cards they are attempting to deal with /retcon here and there into some semblance of sense.

It\\\'s like they are trying to synch together two or more different characters that have almost nothing to do with each other, and repeatedly contradict, including regardign her history. On the one hand there are her established origins, on the other she is shown to strongly oppose rapists and slavers, on the third she does equivalent things with a sarcastic OneLiner pretty regularly. And nobody finds anything odd with it, or even applaud her as a great role model... Well, somebody with quite typical TheSociopath ruthless and sadistic social-Darwinian supremacist perspective, and who has raped, tortured, broken, or murdered lots of people, but that\\\'s supposedly a great role-model simply because she makes it look sexy, witty, and dominant?

Then again, I obviously also do very much like the idea of allowing people the chance to turn nicer, but she still does the old habits frequently enough, somehow without anybody caring, that it turns very hard to take as something natural. If she struggled with herself NOT to mind-rape, torture, or othervise traumatise people for life rather than actually DOING it over and over, while sounding like a completely arrogant JerkAss, that would be much easier to swallow. However, as it is I just see it in a the real world context of cheeering on SilvioBerlusconi (Italy\\\'s biggest mob-boss, most corrupt businessman, major BenitoMussolini-admirer, and the closest thing to a tyrant in western Europe) mixed with a deviant date-rapist. Celebrating true premeditated and extremely \\\'\\\'proud\\\'\\\' \\\"evil as an expression of sanity\\\" has never been something that I can intuitively understand.

I haven\\\'t quite managed to come to terms with/wrap my head around it/finished processing this weird tendency in popular culture, or even society, yet. Too much of a lingering WideEyedIdealist perhaps, but I suppose that I\\\'m slowly getting into the acceptance stage.

But again, Emma sends far more conflicted signals and seems to swing from one approach to the next DependingOnTheWriter. [[OnlySaneMan Matt Fraction]] does seem like a reasonably nice and levelheaded fellow though, so I suppose that he may be able to straighten it out somewhat. As I understood it ChrisClaremont considered even Mystique as considerably more redeemable than the White Queen, so maybe they could simply talk in-depth about it to straighten it out as well as possible?

It\\\'s a bit more complex than that, as I don\\\'t subscribe to absolute WhatIsEvil amorality. There are definitely plenty of people who are downright ridiculously evil existing in RealLife, and hopefully an even greater number of genuinely good ones, although the thing is that the majority are \\\"just people\\\" as you say, whereas the genuinely evil or genuinely good ones generally tend to be mixed together on all sides.

If you want my full analysis regarding the true nature of ridiculously extreme evil, then the room here is far too limited, but a absolutely entitled, and incredibly petty, casual serial-torturer, rapist, and murderer driven by an intense feeling of supremacism definitely qualifies.

If you wish a far more in-depth exploration, please free to read the entirety of my story if you wish. It\\\'s where I originally started to process all of my impressions.

Still she has grown more ambivalent. It\\\'s just that I can\\\'t really make a coherent picture out of what the writers are trying to sell, or more fairly, the odd cards they are attempting to deal with /retcon here and there into some semblance of sense.

It\\\'s like they are trying to synch together two or more different characters that have almost nothing to do with each other, and repeatedly contradict, including regardign her history. On the one hand there are her established origins, on the other she is shown to strongly oppose rapists and slavers, on the third she does equivalent things with a sarcastic OneLiner pretty regularly. And nobody finds anything odd with it, or even applaud her as a great role model... Well, somebody with quite typical TheSociopath ruthless and sadistic social-Darwinian supremacist perspective, and who has raped, tortured, broken, or murdered lots of people, but that\\\'s supposedly a great role-model simply because she makes it look sexy, witty, and dominant?

Then again, I obviously also do very much like the idea of allowing people the chance to turn nicer, but she still does the old habits frequently enough, somehow without anybody caring, that it turns very hard to take as something natural. If she struggled with herself NOT to mind-rape, torture, or othervise traumatise people for life rather than actually DOING it over and over, while sounding like a completely arrogant JerkAss, that would be much easier to swallow. However, as it is I just see it in a the real world context of cheeering on SilvioBerlusconi (Italy\\\'s biggest mob-boss, most corrupt businessman, major BenitoMussolini-admirer, and the closest thing to a tyrant in western Europe) mixed with a deviant date-rapist. Celebrating true premeditated and extremely \\\'\\\'proud\\\'\\\' \\\"evil as an expression of sanity\\\" has never been something that I can intuitively understand.

But again, Emma sends far more conflicted signals and seems to swing from one approach to the next DependingOnTheWriter. MattFraction does seem like a nice and levelheaded fellow though, so I suppose that he may be able to straighten it out somewhat. As I understood it ChrisClaremont considered even Mystique as considerably more redeemable than the White Queen, so maybe they could simply talk in-depth about it to straighten it out as well as possible?

I haven\\\'t quite managed to come to terms with/wrap my head around it/finished processing this weird tendency in popular culture, or even society, yet. Too much of a lingering WideEyedIdealist perhaps, but I suppose that I\\\'m slowly getting into the acceptance stage.

It\\\'s a bit more complex than that, as I don\\\'t subscribe to absolute WhatIsEvil amorality. There are definitely plenty of people who are downright ridiculously evil existing in RealLife, and hopefully an even greater number of genuinely good ones, although the thing is that the majority are \\\"just people\\\" as you say, whereas the genuinely evil or genuinely good ones generally tend to be mixed together on all sides.

If you want my full analysis regarding the true nature of ridiculously extreme evil, then the room here is far too limited, but a absolutely entitled, and incredibly petty, casual serial-torturer, rapist, and murderer driven by an intense feeling of supremacism definitely qualifies.

If you wish a far more in-depth exploration, please free to read the entirety of my story if you wish. It\\\'s where I originally started to process all of my impressions.

Still she has grown more ambivalent. It\\\'s just that I can\\\'t really make a coherent picture out of what the writers are trying to sell, or more fairly, the odd cards they are attempting to deal with /retcon here and there into some semblance of sense.

It\\\'s like they are trying to synch together two or more different characters that have almost nothing to do with each other, and repeatedly contradict, including regardign her history. On the one hand there are her established origins, on the other she is shown to strongly oppose rapists and slavers, on the third she does equivalent things with a sarcastic OneLiner pretty regularly. And nobody finds anything odd with it, or even applaud her as a great role model... Well, somebody with quite typical TheSociopath ruthless and sadistic social-Darwinian supremacist perspective, and who has raped, tortured, broken, or murdered lots of people, but that\\\'s supposedly a great role-model simply because she makes it look sexy, witty, and dominant?

Then again, I obviously also do very much like the idea of allowing people the chance to turn nicer, but she still does the old habits frequently enough, somehow without anybody caring, that it turns very hard to take as something natural. If she struggled with herself NOT to mind-rape, torture, or othervise traumatise people for life rather than actually DOING it over and over, while sounding like a completely arrogant JerkAss, that would be much easier to swallow. However, as it is I just see it in a the RealWorld context of cheeering on SilvioBerlusconi (Italy\\\'s biggest mob-boss, most corrupt businessman, major BenitoMussolini-admirer, and the closest thing to a tyrant in western Europe) mixed with a deviant date-rapist. Celebrating true premeditated \\\"evil as an expression of sanity\\\" has never been something that I can intuitively understand.

I haven\\\'t quite managed to come to terms with/wrap my head around it/finished processing this weird tendency in popular culture, or even society, yet. Too much of a lingering WideEyedIdealist perhaps, but I suppose that I\\\'m slowly getting into the acceptance stage.

It\\\'s a bit more complex than that, as I don\\\'t subscribe to absolute WhatIsEvil amorality. There are definitely plenty of people who are downright ridiculously evil existing in RealLife, and hopefully an even greater number of genuinely good ones, although the thing is that the majority are \\\"just people\\\" as you say, whereas the genuinely evil or genuinely good ones generally tend to be mixed together on all sides.

If you want my full analysis regarding the true nature of ridiculously extreme evil, then the room here is far too limited, but a absolutely entitled, and incredibly petty, casual serial-torturer, rapist, and murderer driven by an intense feeling of supremacism definitely qualifies.

If you wish a far more in-depth exploration, please free to read the entirety of my story if you wish. It\\\'s where I originally started to process all of my impressions.

Still she has grown more ambivalent. It\\\'s just that I can\\\'t really make a coherent picture out of what the writers are trying to sell, or more fairly, the odd cards they are attempting to deal with /retcon here and there into some semblance of sense.

It\\\'s like they are trying to synch together two or more different characters that have almost nothing to do with each other, and repeatedly contradict, including regardign her history. On the one hand there are her established origins, on the other she is shown to strongly oppose rapists and slavers, on the third she does equivalent things with a sarcastic OneLiner pretty regularly. And nobody finds anything odd with it, or even applaud her as a great role model... Well, somebody with quite typical TheSociopath ruthless and sadistic social-Darwinian supremacist perspective, and who has raped, tortured, broken, or murdered lots of people, but that\\\'s supposedly a great role-model simply because she makes it look sexy, witty, and dominant?

Then again, I obviously also do very much like the idea of allowing people the chance to turn nicer, but she still does the old habits frequently enough, somehow without anybody caring, that it turns very hard to take as something natural. If she struggled with herself NOT to mind-rape, torture, or othervise traumatise people for life rather than actually DOING it over and over, while sounding like a completely arrogant JerkAss, that would be much easier to swallow. However, as it is I just see it in a the RealWorld respect of cheeering on SilvioBerlusconi (Italy\\\'s biggest mob-boss, most corrupt businessman, major BenitoMussolini-admirer, and the closest thing to a tyrant in western Europe) mixed with a deviant date-rapist.

I haven\\\'t quite managed to come to terms with/wrap my head around it/finished processing this weird tendency in popular culture, or sometimes even society, yet. Too much of a lingering WideEyedIdealist perhaps, but I suppose that I\\\'m slowly getting into the acceptance stage.

It\\\'s a bit more complex than that, as I don\\\'t subscribe to absolute WhatIsEvil amorality. There are definitely plenty of people who are downright ridiculously evil existing in RealLife, and hopefully an even greater number of genuinely good ones, although the thing is that the majority are \\\"just people\\\" as you say, whereas the genuinely evil or genuinely good ones generally tend to be mixed together on all sides.

If you want my full analysis regarding the true nature of ridiculously extreme evil, then the room here is far too limited, but a absolutely entitled, and incredibly petty, casual serial-torturer, rapist, and murderer driven by an intense feeling of supremacism definitely qualifies.

If you wish a far more in-depth exploration, please free to read the entirety of my story if you wish. It\\\'s where I originally started to process all of my impressions.

Still she has grown more ambivalent. It\\\'s just that I can\\\'t really make a coherent picture out of what the writers are trying to sell, or more fairly, the odd cards they are attempting to deal with /retcon here and there into some semblance of sense.

It\\\'s like they are trying to synch together two or more different characters that have almost nothing to do with each other, and repeatedly contradict, including regardign her history. On the one hand there are her established origins, on the other she is shown to strongly oppose rapists and slavers, on the third she does equivalent things with a sarcastic OneLiner pretty regularly. And nobody finds anything odd with it, or even applaud her as a great role model... Well, somebody with quite typical TheSociopath ruthless and sadistic social-Darwinian supremacist perspective, and who has raped, tortured, broken, or murdered lots of people, but that\\\'s supposedly a great role-model simply because she makes it look sexy, witty, and dominant?

Then again, I obviously also do like the idea of allowing people to turn nicer, but she still does the old habits frequently enough without anybody caring that it turns very hard to take as something natural. If she struggled with herself NOT to mind-rape, torture, or othervise traumatise people for life rather than actually DOING it over and over, while sounding like a completely arrogant JerkAss, that would be much easier to swallow.

I haven\\\'t quite managed to come to terms with/wrap my head around it/finished processing it yet. Too much of a lingering WideEyedIdealist perhaps, but I suppose that I\\\'m slowly getting into the acceptance stage.

It\\\'s a bit more complex than that, as I don\\\'t subscribe to absolute WhatIsEvil amorality. There are definitely plenty of people who are downright ridiculously evil existing in RealLife, and hopefully an even greater number of genuinely good ones, although the thing is that the majority are \\\"just people\\\" as you say, whereas the genuinely evil or genuinely good ones generally tend to be mixed together on all sides.

If you want my full analysis regarding the true nature of ridiculously extreme evil, then the room here is far too limited, but a absolutely entitled, and incredibly petty, casual serial-torturer, rapist, and murderer driven by an intense feeling of supremacism definitely qualifies.

If you wish a far more in-depth exploration, please free to read the entirety of my story if you wish. It\\\'s where I originally started to process all of my impressions.

Still she has grown more ambivalent. It\\\'s just that I can\\\'t really make a coherent picture out of what the writers are trying to sell, or more fairly, the odd cards they are attempting to deal with /retcon here and there into some semblance of sense.

It\\\'s like they are trying to synch together two or more different characters that have almost nothing to do with each other, and repeatedly contradict, including regardign her history. On the one hand there are her established origins, on the other she is shown to strongly oppose rapists and slavers, on the third she does equivalent things with a sarcastic OneLiner pretty regularly. And nobody finds anything odd with it, or even applaud her as a great role model... Well, somebody with quite typical TheSociopath social-Drwinian supremacist perspective, and who has raped, tortured, broken, or murdered plenty of people, but that\\\'s supposedly a great role-model simply because she makes it look sexy, witty, and dominant? I haven\\\'t quite managed to come to terms with/wrap my head around it yet. Too much of a lingering WideEyedIdealist perhaps.