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That doesn\'t mean that average soldiers of the Red Army, fighting for the survival of their people and country, shouldn\'t be counted as heroic. But I see absolutely no reason that the Red Army as an institution should be put on any kind of pedestal.
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That doesn\\\'t mean that average soldiers of the Red Army, fighting for the survival of their people and country, shouldn\\\'t be counted as heroic. But I see absolutely no reason that the Red Army as an institution should be put on any kind of pedestal. It isn\\\'t particularly heroic to save people from one nasty government only to impose a new one on them at gunpoint.
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I don\'t mean to start an edit war, but can we get a general agreement going that the Red Army probably shouldn\'t be treated as particularly more \'heroic\' than the Japanese or the Germans? They were led by Stalin, one of the nastier CompleteMonsters of the 20th century, they were (with the Nazis) one of the two parties that partitioned Poland and enabled the war to even start, they annexed and invaded a number of their neighbors and deported/murdered their opponents in those countries, and when they were victorious they imposed vicious totalitarian police states in their wake across Eastern Europe.
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I don\\\'t mean to start an edit war, but can we get a general agreement going that the Red Army probably shouldn\\\'t be treated as particularly more \\\'heroic\\\' than the Japanese or the Germans? They were led by Stalin, one of the nastier [[CompleteMonster Complete Monsters]] of the 20th century, they were (with the Nazis) one of the two parties that partitioned Poland and enabled the war to even start, they annexed and invaded a number of their neighbors and deported/murdered their opponents in those countries, and when they were victorious they imposed vicious totalitarian police states in their wake across Eastern Europe.
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That doesn\'t mean that average soldiers of the Red Army, fighting for the survival of their people and country, shouldn\'t be counted as heroic. But I see absolutely no reason that the Red Army as an institution should be put on any kind of pedestal. It\'s not some wacky western bias; it\'s simply history.
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That doesn\\\'t mean that average soldiers of the Red Army, fighting for the survival of their people and country, shouldn\\\'t be counted as heroic. But I see absolutely no reason that the Red Army as an institution should be put on any kind of pedestal.
