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\\\"1. Ruined FOREVER is when then complainer jumps the shark. 2. Rebo added an example. 3. DQZ deleted it, stating the the complainer had not, in fact, jumped the shark. 4. A 100% civil discussion then proceeded to take place, the subject of debate being whether or not the complainer jumped the shark.\\\"
1. It\\\'s not the complainers themselves, but that they complain about a show jumping the shark.
2. Rebo added an examples that was really dismissive of the complaints, and even misrepresented their arguments at some points. While I don\\\'t agree with a lot of arguments, it is best for me to know what objectively those arguments are.
3. Since this trope is not about the complainers, but the examples are, going too far looks more like ComplainingAboutComplaining, which is what that example was.
4. Whether the discussion was civil, I\\\'ve noticed both here and on forum threads that rebochan seems to refuse to allow that some hate the game for legitimate reasons, while I have made sure not to refuse (at least not on purpose, and I hope not on accident) that others like it for legitimate reasons.
It\\\'s that idea that made the example wrong, rather than just listing the complaints. And again, other examples here that do the same should be fixed to be more neutral.
5. You didn\\\'t list a five, but I should add it. Again, the controversy of the game is still relatively fresh, so that example also flew in the face of Cautious Editing Judgment, and this page had enough of {{Natter}} problems already.
1. It\\\'s not the complainers themselves, but that they complain about a show jumping the shark.
2. Rebo added an examples that was really dismissive of the complaints, and even misrepresented their arguments at some points. While I don\\\'t agree with a lot of arguments, it is best for me to know what objectively those arguments are.
3. Since this trope is not about the complainers, but the examples are, going too far looks more like ComplainingAboutComplaining, which is what that example was.
4. Whether the discussion was civil, I\\\'ve noticed both here and on forum threads that rebochan seems to refuse to allow that some hate the game for legitimate reasons, while I have made sure not to refuse (at least not on purpose, and I hope not on accident) that others like it for legitimate reasons.
It\\\'s that idea that made the example wrong, rather than just listing the complaints. And again, other examples here that do the same should be fixed to be more neutral.
5. You didn\\\'t list a five, but I should add it. Again, the controversy of the game is still relatively fresh, so that example also flew in the face of Cautious Editing Judgment, and this page had enough of {{Natter}} problems already.
