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I\\\'m putting this here to provide ample room for qualifications regarding the recent addition of a \\\"Moral Event Horizon\\\" example and why it was removed.
The trope MoralEventHorizon is undergoing some considerable discussion in \\\"trope repair\\\". The current new criteria to qualify for this trope is defined here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1600839346041650900&page=7#comment-173 .
Hayward\\\'s actions don\\\'t quite qualify as he was shown as consistently arguing that Wanda was a threat that needed to be taken down whenever the opportunity for a clear shot presented itself.
It is also shown that Hayward was aware of the \\\"sit-com\\\" birth of the twins and it can be argued that he did not consider them to be \\\"real people\\\" just simulacrums.
The main page for \\\"[=WandaVision=]\\\" has already argued that he grabs the IdiotBall when he shoots the kids in Episode 9 for purposes of establishing him as the \\\"villain that gets arrested\\\" for the series because otherwise that action provides absolutely no benefits to him or to S.W.O.R.D.
However, from the MEH perspective, he fails the following criteria:
1) The deed is outstandingly evil by the standards of the story.
2) Those crossing the MEH need to retain presence / agency in the story long enough for the MEH to affect their portrayal.
Criteria 1 depends on how much Hayward believes the children are just simulacrums.
Criteria 2 isn\\\'t met because Hayward shoots the kids, Monica \\\"saves\\\" them, Hayward tries to flee and is rammed by Darcy. Last we see is Hayward in cuffs being lead away. No dialog, no recap. We have no way to know if his underlying attitude or knowledge of Wanda & the kids has changed.
The trope MoralEventHorizon is undergoing some considerable discussion in \\\"trope repair\\\". The current new criteria to qualify for this trope is defined here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1600839346041650900&page=7#comment-173 .
Hayward\\\'s actions don\\\'t quite qualify as he was shown as consistently arguing that Wanda was a threat that needed to be taken down whenever the opportunity for a clear shot presented itself.
It is also shown that Hayward was aware of the \\\"sit-com\\\" birth of the twins and it can be argued that he did not consider them to be \\\"real people\\\" just simulacrums.
The main page for \\\"[=WandaVision=]\\\" has already argued that he grabs the IdiotBall when he shoots the kids in Episode 9 for purposes of establishing him as the \\\"villain that gets arrested\\\" for the series because otherwise that action provides absolutely no benefits to him or to S.W.O.R.D.
However, from the MEH perspective, he fails the following criteria:
1) The deed is outstandingly evil by the standards of the story.
2) Those crossing the MEH need to retain presence / agency in the story long enough for the MEH to affect their portrayal.
Criteria 1 depends on how much Hayward believes the children are just simulacrums.
Criteria 2 isn\\\'t met because Hayward shoots the kids, Monica \\\"saves\\\" them, Hayward tries to flee and is rammed by Darcy. Last we see is Hayward in cuffs being lead away. No dialog, no recap. We have no way to know if his underlying attitude or knowledge of Wanda & the kids has changed.
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I\'m putting this here to provide ample room for qualifications regarding the recent addition of a \
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I\\\'m putting this here to provide ample room for qualifications regarding the recent addition of a \\\"Moral Event Horizon\\\" example and why it was removed.
The trope MoralEventHorizon is undergoing some considerable discussion in \\\"trope repair\\\". The current new criteria to qualify for this trope is defined here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1600839346041650900&page=7#comment-173 .
Hayward\\\'s actions don\\\'t quite qualify as he was shown as consistently arguing that Wanda was a threat that needed to be taken down whenever the opportunity for a clear shot presented itself.
It is also shown that Hayward was aware of the \\\"sit-com\\\" birth of the twins and it can be argued that he did not consider them to be \\\"real people\\\" just simulacrums.
The main page for \\\"[=WandaVision=]\\\" has already argued that he grabs the IdiotBall when he shoots the kids in Episode 9 for purposes of establishing him as the \\\"villain that gets arrested\\\" for the series because otherwise that action provides absolutely no benefits to him or to S.W.O.R.D.
However, from the MEH perspective, he fails the following criteria:
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1) The deed is outstandingly evil by the standards of the story.
2) Those crossing the MEH need to retain presence / agency in the story long enough for the MEH to affect their portrayal.
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Criteria 1 depends on how much Hayward believes the children are just simulacrums.
Criteria 2 isn\\\'t met because Hayward shoots the kids, Monica \\\"saves\\\" them, Hayward tries to flee and is rammed by Darcy. Last we see is Hayward in cuffs being lead away. No dialog, no recap. We have no way to know if his underlying attitude or knowledge of Wanda & the kids has changed.
The trope MoralEventHorizon is undergoing some considerable discussion in \\\"trope repair\\\". The current new criteria to qualify for this trope is defined here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1600839346041650900&page=7#comment-173 .
Hayward\\\'s actions don\\\'t quite qualify as he was shown as consistently arguing that Wanda was a threat that needed to be taken down whenever the opportunity for a clear shot presented itself.
It is also shown that Hayward was aware of the \\\"sit-com\\\" birth of the twins and it can be argued that he did not consider them to be \\\"real people\\\" just simulacrums.
The main page for \\\"[=WandaVision=]\\\" has already argued that he grabs the IdiotBall when he shoots the kids in Episode 9 for purposes of establishing him as the \\\"villain that gets arrested\\\" for the series because otherwise that action provides absolutely no benefits to him or to S.W.O.R.D.
However, from the MEH perspective, he fails the following criteria:
-
1) The deed is outstandingly evil by the standards of the story.
2) Those crossing the MEH need to retain presence / agency in the story long enough for the MEH to affect their portrayal.
-
Criteria 1 depends on how much Hayward believes the children are just simulacrums.
Criteria 2 isn\\\'t met because Hayward shoots the kids, Monica \\\"saves\\\" them, Hayward tries to flee and is rammed by Darcy. Last we see is Hayward in cuffs being lead away. No dialog, no recap. We have no way to know if his underlying attitude or knowledge of Wanda & the kids has changed.
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I\'m putting this here to provide ample room for qualifications regarding the recent addition of a \
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I\\\'m putting this here to provide ample room for qualifications regarding the recent addition of a \\\"Moral Event Horizon\\\" example and why it was removed.
The trope MoralEventHorizon is undergoing some considerable discussion in \\\"trope repair\\\". The current new criteria to qualify for this trope is defined here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1600839346041650900&page=7#comment-173 .
Hayward\\\'s actions don\\\'t quite qualify as he was shown as consistently arguing that Wanda was a threat that needed to be taken down whenever the opportunity for a clear shot presented itself.
It is also shown that Hayward was aware of the \\\"sit-com\\\" birth of the twins and it can be argued that he did not consider them to be \\\"real people\\\" just simulacrums.
The main page for \\\"[=WandaVision=]\\\" has already argued that he grabs the IdiotBall when he shoots the kids in Episode 9 for purposes of establishing him as the \\\"villain that gets arrested\\\" for the series because otherwise that action provides absolutely no benefits to him or to S.W.O.R.D.
However, from the MEH perspective, he fails the following criteria:
1) The deed is outstandingly evil by the standards of the story.
2) Those crossing the MEH need to retain presence / agency in the story long enough for the MEH to affect their portrayal.
Criteria 1 depends on how much Hayward believes the children are just simulacrums.
Criteria 2 isn\\\'t met because Hayward shoots the kids, Monica \\\"saves\\\" them, Hayward tries to flee and is rammed by Darcy. Last we see is Hayward in cuffs being lead away. No dialog, no recap. We have no way to know if his underlying attitude or knowledge of Wanda & the kids has changed.
The trope MoralEventHorizon is undergoing some considerable discussion in \\\"trope repair\\\". The current new criteria to qualify for this trope is defined here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1600839346041650900&page=7#comment-173 .
Hayward\\\'s actions don\\\'t quite qualify as he was shown as consistently arguing that Wanda was a threat that needed to be taken down whenever the opportunity for a clear shot presented itself.
It is also shown that Hayward was aware of the \\\"sit-com\\\" birth of the twins and it can be argued that he did not consider them to be \\\"real people\\\" just simulacrums.
The main page for \\\"[=WandaVision=]\\\" has already argued that he grabs the IdiotBall when he shoots the kids in Episode 9 for purposes of establishing him as the \\\"villain that gets arrested\\\" for the series because otherwise that action provides absolutely no benefits to him or to S.W.O.R.D.
However, from the MEH perspective, he fails the following criteria:
1) The deed is outstandingly evil by the standards of the story.
2) Those crossing the MEH need to retain presence / agency in the story long enough for the MEH to affect their portrayal.
Criteria 1 depends on how much Hayward believes the children are just simulacrums.
Criteria 2 isn\\\'t met because Hayward shoots the kids, Monica \\\"saves\\\" them, Hayward tries to flee and is rammed by Darcy. Last we see is Hayward in cuffs being lead away. No dialog, no recap. We have no way to know if his underlying attitude or knowledge of Wanda & the kids has changed.
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I\'m putting this here to provide ample room for qualifications regarding the recent addition of a \
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I\\\'m putting this here to provide ample room for qualifications regarding the recent addition of a \\\"Moral Event Horizon\\\" example and why it was removed.
The trope MoralEventHorizon is undergoing some considerable discussion in \\\"trope repair\\\". The current new criteria to qualify for this trope is defined here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1600839346041650900&page=7#comment-173 .
Hayward\\\'s actions don\\\'t quite qualify as he was shown as consistently arguing that Wanda was a threat that needed to be taken down whenever the opportunity for a clear shot presented itself.
It is also shown that Hayward was aware of the \\\"sit-com\\\" birth of the twins and it can be argued that he did not consider them to be \\\"real people\\\" just simulacrums.
The main page for WandaVision has already argued that he grabs the IdiotBall when he shoots the kids in Episode 9 for purposes of establishing him as the \\\"villain that gets arrested\\\" for the series because otherwise that action provides absolutely no benefits to him or to S.W.O.R.D.
However, from the MEH perspective, he fails the following criteria \\\"Those crossing the MEH need to retain presence / agency in the story long enough for the MEH to affect their portrayal.\\\"
Hayward shoots the kids, Monica \\\"saves\\\" them, Hayward tries to flee and is rammed by Darcy. Last we see is Hayward in cuffs being lead away. No dialog, no recap. We have no way to know if his underlying attitude toward Wanda & the kids has changed.
The trope MoralEventHorizon is undergoing some considerable discussion in \\\"trope repair\\\". The current new criteria to qualify for this trope is defined here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1600839346041650900&page=7#comment-173 .
Hayward\\\'s actions don\\\'t quite qualify as he was shown as consistently arguing that Wanda was a threat that needed to be taken down whenever the opportunity for a clear shot presented itself.
It is also shown that Hayward was aware of the \\\"sit-com\\\" birth of the twins and it can be argued that he did not consider them to be \\\"real people\\\" just simulacrums.
The main page for WandaVision has already argued that he grabs the IdiotBall when he shoots the kids in Episode 9 for purposes of establishing him as the \\\"villain that gets arrested\\\" for the series because otherwise that action provides absolutely no benefits to him or to S.W.O.R.D.
However, from the MEH perspective, he fails the following criteria \\\"Those crossing the MEH need to retain presence / agency in the story long enough for the MEH to affect their portrayal.\\\"
Hayward shoots the kids, Monica \\\"saves\\\" them, Hayward tries to flee and is rammed by Darcy. Last we see is Hayward in cuffs being lead away. No dialog, no recap. We have no way to know if his underlying attitude toward Wanda & the kids has changed.
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I\'m putting this here to provide ample room for qualifications regarding the recent addition to Moral Event Horizon and why it was removed.
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I\\\'m putting this here to provide ample room for qualifications regarding the recent addition of a \\\"Moral Event Horizon\\\" example and why it was removed.
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The trop MoralEventHorizon is undergoing some considerable discussion in \
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The trop MoralEventHorizon is undergoing some considerable discussion in \\\"trope repair\\\". The current new criteria is defined here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1600839346041650900&page=7#comment-173 .
Hayward\\\'s actions don\\\'t quite qualify as he was shown as consistently arguing that Wanda was a threat that needed to be taken down whenever the opportunity for a clear shot presented itself.
It is also shown that Hayward was aware of the \\\"sit-com\\\" birth of the twins and it can be argued that he did not consider them to be \\\"real people\\\" just simulacrums.
The main page for WandaVision has already argued that he grabs the IdiotBall when he shoots the kids in Episode 9 for purposes of establishing him as the \\\"villain that gets arrested\\\" for the series because otherwise that action provides absolutely no benefits to him or to S.W.O.R.D.
However, from the MEH perspective, he fails the following criteria \\\"Those crossing the MEH need to retain presence / agency in the story long enough for the MEH to affect their portrayal.\\\"
Hayward shoots the kids, Monica \\\"saves\\\" them, Hayward tries to flee and is rammed by Darcy. Last we see is Hayward in cuffs being lead away. No dialog, no recap. We have no way to know if his underlying attitude toward Wanda & the kids has changed.
Hayward\\\'s actions don\\\'t quite qualify as he was shown as consistently arguing that Wanda was a threat that needed to be taken down whenever the opportunity for a clear shot presented itself.
It is also shown that Hayward was aware of the \\\"sit-com\\\" birth of the twins and it can be argued that he did not consider them to be \\\"real people\\\" just simulacrums.
The main page for WandaVision has already argued that he grabs the IdiotBall when he shoots the kids in Episode 9 for purposes of establishing him as the \\\"villain that gets arrested\\\" for the series because otherwise that action provides absolutely no benefits to him or to S.W.O.R.D.
However, from the MEH perspective, he fails the following criteria \\\"Those crossing the MEH need to retain presence / agency in the story long enough for the MEH to affect their portrayal.\\\"
Hayward shoots the kids, Monica \\\"saves\\\" them, Hayward tries to flee and is rammed by Darcy. Last we see is Hayward in cuffs being lead away. No dialog, no recap. We have no way to know if his underlying attitude toward Wanda & the kids has changed.
