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Edelgard isn\\\'t like Kane where she cultivates a cult of personality nor does she present herself as a holy savior to the masses come to strike down the wicked false Church. She\\\'s more mankind is superior to gods and doesn\\\'t need a messiah. She\\\'s an atheist, an imperialist who sees conquering Fodlan as the only way to a better future and does not care if people believe in her or not, she barely tries to convince Dimitri that she wasn\\\'t responsible for the tragedy. Calling her a dark messiah is a misrepresentation of her M.O and belief system. She\\\'s a knight templar and most of her archetypes also think they are the only ones who can save the world, but the Dark Messiah has religious trappings to the role and present themselves as a holy saviour which is what seperates them from knight templars. No one in the Empire is screaming \\\" EDELGARD LIVES IN DEATH \\\" like the Brotherhood.

Edelgard isn\\\'t like Kane where she cultivates a cult of personality nor does she present herself as a holy savior to the masses come to strike down the wicked false Church. She\\\'s more mankind is superior to gods and doesn\\\'t need a messiah. She\\\'s an atheist, an imperialist who sees conquering Fodlan as the only way to a better future and does not care if people believe in her or not, she barely tries to convince Dimitri that she wasn\\\'t responsible for the tragedy. Calling her a dark messiah is a misrepresentation of her M.O and belief system. She\\\'s a knight templar and most of her archetypes also think they are the only ones who can save the world, but the Dark Messiah has religious trappings to the role, Edelgard has the opposite. No one in the Empire is screaming \\\" EDELGARD LIVES IN DEATH \\\" like the Brotherhood.

3: At no point does she try to rally students against the Church or inspire people by presenting herself as a savior, she may believe herself the only one who can save Fodlan but she really doesn\\\'t focus on convincing people, even in CF where she prints out manifestos, it still doesn\\\'t inspire people to revere her personally and actually costs her allies. The laconic states A ruthless and often Ax-Crazy demagogue who obtains absolute power or otherwise secures the fanatical following of a substantial multitude by presenting themselves as a savior. Edelgard\\\'s power comes from her empire and troops loyal to her ideals not because they think she\\\'s a savior. And even the Agarthans view her as a pawn despite saying she\\\'s their greatest creation.

1: She doesn\\\'t really try to convince the masses that she\\\'s their only hope like a Dark Messiah does, nor does she present herself as a messiah like say Kane. Her goal is to abolish the Church as a power and humanity\\\'s reliance on gods as shown in CF\\\'s finale, so the dark messiah aspect is contrary to her goals. She may see herself as the only one who can save the world, but it\\\'s vital that a Dark Messiah preach their message and present themselves as a savior hence coming of as an evil messiah, Edelgard is a hard core atheist and is aware she is doing dirty business.

2: She does not inspire fanatical at all in her troops like Kane of the Brotherhood does. Even Hubert is willing to go behind her back and prepare contingencies should she lose. The way she inspires loyalty is through her meritocracy ideals and actions as shown with Ladislava and Constance Even in CF, most troops don\\\'t really worship her or her beliefs like Felix, Sylvain and Marianne. Edelgard even admits to Constance the reason she didn\\\'t reveal herself as the Flame Emperor is because she knows the others would oppose her, a Dark Messiah is utterly convinced of their righteousness and would not be able to comprehend the idea of a sane person not following them.

Okay, so i\\\'ve written a post that may or may not satisfy all parties: Her view of the Nabateans is not the best, in the start of Chapter 12, Edelgard calls Rhea a cruel beast after she reveals her true form, and refers to her and her family as the monsters who have been controlling Fodlan from behind the scenes. It\\\'s clear that Edelgard feels that Rhea\\\'s behind the scenes rule and manipulation of Fodlan has lead to the current dysfunctional status quo, that she has no right to manipulate humanity, and that in order to allow humanity to make it\\\'s own destiny, Rhea must be overthrown. It\\\'s like if Walhart\\\'s anti-divinity slant also had an anti-dragon slant.

There, acknowledges both sides of her feelings towards Nabateans so we can avoid future edit wars, (Least people think i\\\'m the only one who edits that part, i recall the part about Seteth and Flayn being an edit war at one point.) Doesn\\\'t mention the whole sparing Flayn and Seteth point, and there is also the fact that Byleth IS part Nabatean.

There, acknowledges both sides of her feelings towards Nabateans so we can avoid future edit wars, (Least you think i\\\'m the only one who edits that part) Doesn\\\'t mention the whole sparing Flayn and Seteth point, and there is also the fact that Byleth IS part Nabatean.

Okay, so i\\\'ve written a post that may or may not satisfy all parties: Her view of the Nabateans is not the best, in the start of Chapter 12, Edelgard calls Rhea a cruel beast after she reveals her true form, and refers to her and her family as the monsters who have been controlling Fodlan from behind the scenes. It\\\'s clear that Edelgard feels that Rhea\\\'s behind the scenes rule and manipulation of Fodlan has lead to the current dysfunctional status quo, that she has no right to manipulate humanity, and that in order to allow humanity to make it\\\'s own destiny, Rhea must be overthrown.


* In regards to Byleth, she acknowledges that they are part Nabatean, but wants her on her side, and part of the reason she cannot open up to them initially is because she feels that Byleth would be inclined to side with their brethren in addition to having the powers of Sothis. It\\\'s implied that Byleth\\\'s influence softens up Edelgard somewhat in regards to Rhea, as Edelgard is willing to negotiate with Rhea and offer her a surrender.