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** Revealing that this whole saga will be recorded in-universe as \
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** Revealing that this whole saga will be recorded in-universe as \\\"A Song of Ice and Fire.\\\" Not only does it come across as a cheap homage/ripoff of \\\"The Downfall of the Lord of the Rings\\\" (especially the movie version, which omitted the \\\"Downfall\\\" part) as well as a shoehorned Title Drop of the book series, but the ice and fire barely play any role in the whole political mess. The White Walkers invaded Westeros for all of five minutes before being killed off and forgotten by literally everyone. Dany on the other hand enters Westeros very late in the story and her story can be summed up as \\\"she burned a lot of stuff then died anticlimactically.\\\" If anything, the War of the Five Kings comes across as more important to focus the book around, yet it is given no mention. Not to mention that the title is an artifact spoken by Rhaegar who was obsessed with a prophecy that had a smaller impact on the show.

*** \\\'\\\'\\\'Clear complaining\\\'\\\'\\\'

** Tyrion finding his siblings\\\' corpses is ruined when you notice that the bricks fell only where the two of them were standing. If the twins had just walked five feet to the side, they could have survived the Red Keep falling on their heads. Not to mention that the whole room was shown collapsing last episode, so all the other bricks magically disappeared so Tyrion could find the bodies with minimal effort.
*** I\\\'ll admit the dramatic moment failed on me, too, but again... how is this funny or hilarious?
** Drogon randomly burning the Iron Throne. It makes no sense even for a smarter animal like Drogon to be capable of grasping symbolism and realize this spiky chair he has never seen before was what caused Dany to go mad and die claiming it, making it an all too obvious message from the writers that the pursuit of the throne was more trouble than it\\\'s worth.
*** Is it funny, though? I\\\'ll admit there are memes about this thing... but I don\\\'t find it particularly narm-ful.
** Arya saying, \\\"I know a killer when I see one,\\\" regarding Dany might\\\'ve been good foreshadowing and a display of keen insight on Arya\\\'s part earlier in the season. Coming on the heels of watching Dany immolate an entire city it\\\'s more tempting to shout, \\\"No shit, Sherlock!\\\"
*** \\\'\\\'\\\'Wut?\\\'\\\'\\\'
** \\\"Bran the Broken\\\", the fact that they continually address him as such in such a serious way when it is not at all a complementary sounding nickname. Also typically epithets like that are used to identify a monarch after they die to distinguish them from others of the same name (Like Bran the Builder or Bran the Burner). The fact that Bran himself had used it sarcastically back when he was discussing the titles of lords with his maester doesn’t help, since it basically turns his own insult about his paraplegic nature into some kind of triumph.
*** Hahaha, I find this writing narmy -- complementary vs. complimentary -- it always cracks me up. (But this could feel like perhaps the only valid example from this lot.)
** The decision over who to be King is decided in a ridiculously short amount of time by a relatively small group of people, and Tyrion\\\'s justification that Bran be King boils down to... stories are important, even though he\\\'s a young man who has shown no interest in ruling.
*** See below.
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Also this entry from Narm.GameOfThrones subpage:
* The Great Council to determine the new executive of Westeros near the end of the finale beggars belief. Tyrion, who has been in a dungeon awaiting execution, is alternately berated over his treasonous acts while also being given the time to unilaterally convince all the lords present that Bran should be king. There is zero squabbling over this choice, other than Sansa abstaining from the vote and seceding on the North\\\'s behalf with one sentence...once again, with zero squabbling; one wonders why the other kingdoms, especially the equally culturally unique Iron Islands and Dorne, don\\\'t take this opportunity to do the same. Jon\\\'s fate is treated as a potential war-starter, so he ends up being sent to the Wall. If you\\\'re paying close enough attention, you\\\'ll notice that the Starks now basically rule the whole continent between their nominal sovereignty over the now-Six Kingdoms and the North and Jon\\\'s significant soft power among the Night\\\'s Watch and wildlings beyond the Wall. None of the other lords have a problem with that? While it\\\'s reasonable to assume significant upheavals following Daenerys\\\'s failed campaign, these changes to the status quo happen in one sitting without any of these lords arguing their own interests. The scene presents a bizarre, sterile harmony so uncharacteristic of the country\\\'s political culture and the show\\\'s established tone that the scene is unintentionally hilarious.
** Personally, I don\\\'t see it as something that was supposed to be dramatic with pathos but failed and ended up hilarious instead. It\\\'s Wall of Text, but admittedly after I deleted the previous entry from the same editor that was on the other hand almost without context. It reads to me as \\\'\\\'\\\'complaining\\\'\\\'\\\' from someone who is not satisfied with the ending in general. Also, it\\\'s inaccurate because there \\\'\\\'was\\\'\\\' some squabbling.
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** Revealing that this whole saga will be recorded in-universe as \\\"A Song of Ice and Fire.\\\" Not only does it come across as a cheap homage/ripoff of \\\"The Downfall of the Lord of the Rings\\\" (especially the movie version, which omitted the \\\"Downfall\\\" part) as well as a shoehorned Title Drop of the book series, but the ice and fire barely play any role in the whole political mess. The White Walkers invaded Westeros for all of five minutes before being killed off and forgotten by literally everyone. Dany on the other hand enters Westeros very late in the story and her story can be summed up as \\\"she burned a lot of stuff then died anticlimactically.\\\" If anything, the War of the Five Kings comes across as more important to focus the book around, yet it is given no mention. Not to mention that the title is an artifact spoken by Rhaegar who was obsessed with a prophecy that had a smaller impact on the show.

*** \\\'\\\'\\\'Clear complaining\\\'\\\'\\\'

** Tyrion finding his siblings\\\' corpses is ruined when you notice that the bricks fell only where the two of them were standing. If the twins had just walked five feet to the side, they could have survived the Red Keep falling on their heads. Not to mention that the whole room was shown collapsing last episode, so all the other bricks magically disappeared so Tyrion could find the bodies with minimal effort.
*** I\\\'ll admit the dramatic moment failed on me, too, but again... how is this funny or hilarious?
** Drogon randomly burning the Iron Throne. It makes no sense even for a smarter animal like Drogon to be capable of grasping symbolism and realize this spiky chair he has never seen before was what caused Dany to go mad and die claiming it, making it an all too obvious message from the writers that the pursuit of the throne was more trouble than it\\\'s worth.
*** Is it funny, though? I\\\'ll admit there are memes about this thing... but I don\\\'t fint it particularly narm-ful.
** Arya saying, \\\"I know a killer when I see one,\\\" regarding Dany might\\\'ve been good foreshadowing and a display of keen insight on Arya\\\'s part earlier in the season. Coming on the heels of watching Dany immolate an entire city it\\\'s more tempting to shout, \\\"No shit, Sherlock!\\\"
*** \\\'\\\'\\\'Wut?\\\'\\\'\\\'
** \\\"Bran the Broken\\\", the fact that they continually address him as such in such a serious way when it is not at all a complementary sounding nickname. Also typically epithets like that are used to identify a monarch after they die to distinguish them from others of the same name (Like Bran the Builder or Bran the Burner). The fact that Bran himself had used it sarcastically back when he was discussing the titles of lords with his maester doesn’t help, since it basically turns his own insult about his paraplegic nature into some kind of triumph.
*** Hahaha, I find this writing narmy -- complementary vs. complimentary -- it always cracks me up. (But this could feel like perhaps the only valid example from this lot.)
** The decision over who to be King is decided in a ridiculously short amount of time by a relatively small group of people, and Tyrion\\\'s justification that Bran be King boils down to... stories are important, even though he\\\'s a young man who has shown no interest in ruling.
*** See below.
----
Also this entry from Narm.GameOfThrones subpage:
* The Great Council to determine the new executive of Westeros near the end of the finale beggars belief. Tyrion, who has been in a dungeon awaiting execution, is alternately berated over his treasonous acts while also being given the time to unilaterally convince all the lords present that Bran should be king. There is zero squabbling over this choice, other than Sansa abstaining from the vote and seceding on the North\\\'s behalf with one sentence...once again, with zero squabbling; one wonders why the other kingdoms, especially the equally culturally unique Iron Islands and Dorne, don\\\'t take this opportunity to do the same. Jon\\\'s fate is treated as a potential war-starter, so he ends up being sent to the Wall. If you\\\'re paying close enough attention, you\\\'ll notice that the Starks now basically rule the whole continent between their nominal sovereignty over the now-Six Kingdoms and the North and Jon\\\'s significant soft power among the Night\\\'s Watch and wildlings beyond the Wall. None of the other lords have a problem with that? While it\\\'s reasonable to assume significant upheavals following Daenerys\\\'s failed campaign, these changes to the status quo happen in one sitting without any of these lords arguing their own interests. The scene presents a bizarre, sterile harmony so uncharacteristic of the country\\\'s political culture and the show\\\'s established tone that the scene is unintentionally hilarious.
** Personally, I don\\\'t see it as something that was supposed to be dramatic with pathos but failed and ended up hilarious instead. It\\\'s Wall of Text, but admittedly after I deleted the previous entry from the same editor that was on the other hand almost without context. It reads to me as \\\'\\\'\\\'complaining\\\'\\\'\\\' from someone who is not satisfied with the ending in general. Also, it\\\'s inaccurate because there \\\'\\\'was\\\'\\\' some squabbling.
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Any input?
Changed line(s) 6 from:
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* Revealing that this whole saga will be recorded in-universe as \
to:
* Revealing that this whole saga will be recorded in-universe as \\\"A Song of Ice and Fire.\\\" Not only does it come across as a cheap homage/ripoff of \\\"The Downfall of the Lord of the Rings\\\" (especially the movie version, which omitted the \\\"Downfall\\\" part) as well as a shoehorned Title Drop of the book series, but the ice and fire barely play any role in the whole political mess. The White Walkers invaded Westeros for all of five minutes before being killed off and forgotten by literally everyone. Dany on the other hand enters Westeros very late in the story and her story can be summed up as \\\"she burned a lot of stuff then died anticlimactically.\\\" If anything, the War of the Five Kings comes across as more important to focus the book around, yet it is given no mention. Not to mention that the title is an artifact spoken by Rhaegar who was obsessed with a prophecy that had a smaller impact on the show.

*** \\\'\\\'\\\'Clear complaining\\\'\\\'\\\'

** Tyrion finding his siblings\\\' corpses is ruined when you notice that the bricks fell only where the two of them were standing. If the twins had just walked five feet to the side, they could have survived the Red Keep falling on their heads. Not to mention that the whole room was shown collapsing last episode, so all the other bricks magically disappeared so Tyrion could find the bodies with minimal effort.
*** I\\\'ll admit the dramatic moment failed on me, too, but again... how is this funny or hilarious?
** Drogon randomly burning the Iron Throne. It makes no sense even for a smarter animal like Drogon to be capable of grasping symbolism and realize this spiky chair he has never seen before was what caused Dany to go mad and die claiming it, making it an all too obvious message from the writers that the pursuit of the throne was more trouble than it\\\'s worth.
*** Is it funny, though? I\\\'ll admit there are memes about this thing... but I don\\\'t fint it particularly narm-ful.
** Arya saying, \\\"I know a killer when I see one,\\\" regarding Dany might\\\'ve been good foreshadowing and a display of keen insight on Arya\\\'s part earlier in the season. Coming on the heels of watching Dany immolate an entire city it\\\'s more tempting to shout, \\\"No shit, Sherlock!\\\"
*** \\\'\\\'\\\'Wut?\\\'\\\'\\\'
** \\\"Bran the Broken\\\", the fact that they continually address him as such in such a serious way when it is not at all a complementary sounding nickname. Also typically epithets like that are used to identify a monarch after they die to distinguish them from others of the same name (Like Bran the Builder or Bran the Burner). The fact that Bran himself had used it sarcastically back when he was discussing the titles of lords with his maester doesn’t help, since it basically turns his own insult about his paraplegic nature into some kind of triumph.
*** Hahaha, I find this writing narmy -- complementary vs. complimentary -- it always cracks me up. (But this could feel like perhaps the only valid example from this lot.)
** The decision over who to be King is decided in a ridiculously short amount of time by a relatively small group of people, and Tyrion\\\'s justification that Bran be King boils down to... stories are important, even though he\\\'s a young man who has shown no interest in ruling.
*** See below.
----
Also this entry from Narm.GameOfThrones subpage:
* The Great Council to determine the new executive of Westeros near the end of the finale beggars belief. Tyrion, who has been in a dungeon awaiting execution, is alternately berated over his treasonous acts while also being given the time to unilaterally convince all the lords present that Bran should be king. There is zero squabbling over this choice, other than Sansa abstaining from the vote and seceding on the North\\\'s behalf with one sentence...once again, with zero squabbling; one wonders why the other kingdoms, especially the equally culturally unique Iron Islands and Dorne, don\\\'t take this opportunity to do the same. Jon\\\'s fate is treated as a potential war-starter, so he ends up being sent to the Wall. If you\\\'re paying close enough attention, you\\\'ll notice that the Starks now basically rule the whole continent between their nominal sovereignty over the now-Six Kingdoms and the North and Jon\\\'s significant soft power among the Night\\\'s Watch and wildlings beyond the Wall. None of the other lords have a problem with that? While it\\\'s reasonable to assume significant upheavals following Daenerys\\\'s failed campaign, these changes to the status quo happen in one sitting without any of these lords arguing their own interests. The scene presents a bizarre, sterile harmony so uncharacteristic of the country\\\'s political culture and the show\\\'s established tone that the scene is unintentionally hilarious.
** Personally, I don\\\'t see it as something that was supposed to be dramatic with pathos but failed and ended up hilarious instead. It\\\'s Wall of Text, but admittedly after I deleted the previous entry from the same editor that was on the other hand almost without context. It reads to me as \\\'\\\'\\\'complaining\\\'\\\'\\\' from someone who is not satisfied with the ending in general. Also, it\\\'s inaccurate because there \\\'\\\'was\\\'\\\' some squabbling.
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Any input?
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