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CM isn't supposed to be troped until a character's arc is over, and for very good reason. Cinder was troped very prematurely, just as her arc was beginning to pick up momentum, at a time when it was becoming clear that the plan she was enacting wasn't hers because she had a boss that had yet to be introduced. Her motives are unknown, her end goal is unknown, how and why she hooked up with Salem is unknown; she wasn't even the only villain who enjoyed the sack of Vale (but is the only one who has been declared a CM for it).
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CM isn\'t supposed to be troped until a character\'s arc is over, and for very good reason. Cinder was troped very prematurely, just as her arc was beginning to pick up momentum, at a time when it was becoming clear that the plan she was enacting wasn\'t hers because she had a boss that had yet to be introduced. Her motives are unknown, her end goal is unknown, how and why she hooked up with Salem is unknown; she wasn\'t even the only villain who enjoyed the sack of Vale (but is the only one who has been declared a CM for it).
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From what I've seen on this wiki, most people who know the work are of a 'wait and see' attitude. Most of the regulars to the clean-up thread either didn't know the work or felt it should wait for her character arc to finish.
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From what I\'ve seen on this wiki, most people who know the work are of a \'wait and see\' attitude. Most of the regulars to the clean-up thread either didn\'t know the work or felt it should wait for her character arc to finish.
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That said, I can see how CompleteMonster and SympathyForTheDevil could possibly be applied to the same character. The original cause for the CM's descent, or the goal they're fighting for may be one the protagonists can understand but if there's been something like a HeWhoFightsMonsters angle to the CM, it would be possible for the protagonist to say 'yeah, completely understand the hurt but, dude, you didn't just cross the line, you crapped all over it'.
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That said, I can see how CompleteMonster and SympathyForTheDevil could possibly be applied to the same character. The original cause for the CM\'s descent, or the goal they\'re fighting for may be one the protagonists can understand but if something like HeWhoFightsMonsters applies, it would be possible for the protagonist to say \'yeah, completely understand the hurt but, dude, you didn\'t just cross the line, you crapped all over it\'.
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CM isn't supposed to be troped until a character's arc is over, and for very good reason. Cinder was troped very prematurely, just as her arc was beginning to pick up momentum, at a time when it was becoming clear that the plan she was enacting wasn't hers because she had a boss that had yet to be introduced. Her motives are unknown, her end goal is unknown, how and why she hooked up with Salem is unknown; she wasn't even the only villain who enjoyed the sack of Vale (but is the only one who has been declared a CM for it).
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CM isn\'t supposed to be troped until a character\'s arc is over, and for very good reason. Cinder was troped very prematurely, just as her arc was beginning to pick up momentum, at a time when it was becoming clear that the plan she was enacting wasn\'t hers because she had a boss that had yet to be introduced. Her motives are unknown, her end goal is unknown, how and why she hooked up with Salem is unknown; she wasn\'t even the only villain who enjoyed the sack of Vale (but is the only one who has been declared a CM for it).
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From what I've seen on this wiki, most people who know the work are of a 'wait and see' attitude. Most of the regulars to the clean-up thread either didn't know the work or felt it should wait for her character arc to finish.
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From what I\'ve seen on this wiki, most people who know the work are of a \'wait and see\' attitude. Most of the regulars to the clean-up thread either didn\'t know the work or felt it should wait for her character arc to finish.

That said, I can see how CompleteMonster and SympathyForTheDevil could possibly be applied to the same character. The original cause for the CM\'s descent, or the goal they\'re fighting for may be one the protagonists can understand but if there\'s been something like a HeWhoFightsMonsters angle to the CM, it would be possible for the protagonist to say \'yeah, completely understand the hurt but, dude, you didn\'t just cross the line, you crapped all over it\'.
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CM isn't supposed to be troped until a character's arc is over, and for very good reason. Cinder was troped very prematurely, just as her arc was beginning to pick up momentum, at a time when it was becoming clear that the plan she was enacting wasn't hers because she had a boss that had yet to be introduced. Her motives are unknown, her end goal is unknown, how and why she hooked up with Salem is unknown; she wasn't even the only villain who enjoyed the sack of Vale (but is the only one who has been declared a CM for it).
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CM isn\'t supposed to be troped until a character\'s arc is over, and for very good reason. Cinder was troped very prematurely, just as her arc was beginning to pick up momentum, at a time when it was becoming clear that the plan she was enacting wasn\'t hers because she had a boss that had yet to be introduced. Her motives are unknown, her end goal is unknown, how and why she hooked up with Salem is unknown; she wasn\'t even the only villain who enjoyed the sack of Vale (but is the only one who has been declared a CM for it).
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From what I've seen on this wiki, most people who know the work are of a 'wait and see' attitude. Most people either didn't know the work or felt it should wait for her character arc to finish.
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From what I\'ve seen on this wiki, most people who know the work are of a \'wait and see\' attitude. Most of the regulars to the clean-up thread either didn\'t know the work or felt it should wait for her character arc to finish.
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