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resolved Trope where a work produced later, but set chronologically earlier, has a more diverse cast
I'm looking for the trope where a work in a franchise is produced later than a previous work or the work that originated the franchise, but the second work is set earlier in the timeline. The second work is produced in modern times, so it has a more diverse cast than the previous work.
resolved The giants were normal sized all along
Similar to or possibly a subtrope of https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MouseWorld
. The main difference is that the people think they are normal-sized, but it's later revealed that they were the tiny ones the whole time. Like, for example, it's https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RibcageRidge
, but it's revealed that the ribcage is a normal human ribcage and everyone else is tiny.
Having trouble thinking of examples of this, but I know I've seen it before. Might not be common enough to trope, though.
Anyway, if anyone knows what I'm talking about, I'd appreciate the help.
resolved x important-to-you person wouldn't want you to do y
Checked Dialogue and Rebuke Tropes. Alice's character motivation revolves partly around some other character who is gone (usually dead), and she gets called out by Bob who says the other character wouldn't want her to do what she's doing.
resolved Minor character spends a little time with the MC and can tell them all their problems
Basically, when the main character has to spend a little time with either a minor character, either one they just met or barely interact with, and that character can almost immediately tell them everything that's wrong with them. For example, in Better Call Saul, the army guy who Jimmy scams for a TV ad, who comes back to tell him that his behavior is gonna bite him in the ass sooner or later.
resolved Immutable Crapsack World
The page for Crapsack world describes an immutable crapsack world as a world that “Has agony Inherent in the System, both physically and metaphysically, and cannot be saved or made a better place” it goes on to list a lot of examples, all of which definitely qualify, but aside from that list I can’t find any trope page about that specific trope of an immutable crapsack world. Inherit In The System and Cosmic Horror Story both have elements of the trope, but they don’t fully fit. For example, cosmic horror can include stories that don’t necessarily include world building AND the trope lists permanent dystopias like Nineteen Eighty-Four or Iron Storm as an example, which don’t classify as Cosmic Horror. Is there any other tropes that cover the same ground?
Edited by DeltaCube91resolvedAPP Trope where the antagonist is never defeated but the protagonists dont fully lose.
I can’t think of a better way to word this but in thinking specifically of the end of Warhammer Fantasy, Xellee Sequence, the Crisis on Infinite Earths Movie and, in a way Dark Soulswhere humanity or maybe just the protagonists don’t fully lose but at the same time never beat the villain. I’d be fine with a trope where neither side loses, too.
Edited by DeltaCube91resolved Diabolical cut
A cut that causes the audience to create a connection in their head of two scenes/dialogues, causing whiplash. Cut may result from the in-media character making the connection themself, or from out-of-context (with the context revealed after the tape has rolled a bit). Not necessarily an interruption cut.
Maybe related to juxtaposition, but specific to the cut rather than the setting, and it's (presumed) intent to cause audience whiplash. Likely a YMMV.
Example: In episode 23 of "My Dress Up Darling" anime; shot of (fake)eyeballs cuts into a shot of grilling takoyaki (both are round), all with happy BGM playing (because it is a happy time). In the next episode; a character weak with horror sees a plate of organ-soup, cuts into plate of finished soup in a flashback (the connection for her is that it has hidden veggies mixed in). Arguably worse, the return from flashback has the mom smiling and cuts mid-sentence back to the organ-soup 'do you like it'.
The common thing is, they could have cut anywhere, or use a different angle to give context.
Edited by swayingGrassresolved "don't stuff beans up your nose!"
alice tells bob to never, ever do a certain thing, or alternatively bemoans that he'll surely do it anyway. his response? "hey, i never thought of that! that's a great idea!"
titled after the wikipedia policy
resolved TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, inverted
Since current policy is that YMMV can't be played with, I wanted to put up something for HIM (2025). The critical consensus seems to be that the film has great aesthetics (music, cinematography, imagery), and while there isn't consensus that the acting was good I've seen plenty of complements for the leads' talents, but that the story and deeper themes just weren't there and did a disservice to the high quality of the other two.
I don't think that fits They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot, because it's literally the opposite; a good everything else was wasted by a plot that didn't measure up. But I can't think of a trope for that.
resolved Adaptation Made For Different Audience
Sort of like an Audience Shift but for an adaptation. For example, a book that was marketed towards adults gets a film adaptation that is family-friendly.
resolved Never Unspectacled Western Animation
A character is never shown without glasses or sunglasses, even when showering, sleeping or swimming.
In the case of sunglasses or Scary Shiny Glasses, that means we never see the character's eyes.
resolved Incredible Power, Incompetent User
An ability that would otherwise be a Story-Breaker Power is kept from being so, not because of the ability itself, but because the guy/girl using it doesn't have the right mindset/personality to use it to its fullest potential.
Examples: Okuyasu from Diamond is Unbreakable can erase things from existence, but he's too stupid to use it properly. Mr 3. and Wapol from One Piece have very busted abilities (Wax constructs with no limit and the ability to eat ANYTHING without issue), but one's a coward and the other's too short-sighted to be more than a minor threat.
resolved Medium
I'm not talking of "Psychic Powers", like precognition, telepathy, levitation or the like. I'm talking about talking with dead people. In the trope I'm looking for, mediums are specifically employed by the police to solve murder cases. And the ghost can help in the investigation.
Edited by luigirovattiresolved Alien time travelers
Simply put, extraterrestrials, or at least non-human intelligences, which are able to time travel.
resolved Quote by person rendered ironic after their death
Do we have this? EDIT: Ignore this; I realized no matter what trope I use, I'll be courting a suspension, if not an outright ban if I post the example I was thinking of.
resolved In-universe sensory abuse
A character is tortured with bright or flashing lights or loud, abrasive noises.
resolved Long-Winded Metaphor as Insult
Is there a trope for when a character uses a long-winded metaphor as an insult? For example, from the Gumball scene that made me think of this, "Your face looks like a cat trying to claw its way out of a melon."
resolved Humiliating victory Film
Asking for a very specific situation:
The ending of The Salute of the Jugger has the underdog team winning against the undefeated champions. Normally the game is played to win it as soon as possible (it's a Blood Sport, so dragging things out is an excellent way to get extra injuries or even die), but to make a mockery of the people that wanted to have them killed to "fix" the outcome of the game, the main character stops the already running new kid and tells her to "walk slowly" for their touchdown. As such, they deliberately stall their victory moment, letting the rioting crowd at the arena to see that they have so completely and utterly defeated the residing champions, they can now afford to drag their feet with the touchdown. The new kid only then has time to see and fully comprehend just how thorough is the dominance of their team, and smilingly, slooowly walks toward the goalpost, with nobody left to stop that walk.
tl;dr a victory where the victor intentionally humiliates the defeated side, to make the defeat sting even more
I tried to fit it under Humiliation Conga, but that's not that. The story also notably subverts Opposing Sports Team - the conflict is with their "manager", not the players, who are fair and square and have grudging respect to the underdog team. Still, it's fully intentional show of dominance, intended to humiliate the asshole that tried to get them killed.
Edited by Tropiarz

Both the heroes and the villain want something, but there's some sort of menace in the way, something that isn't on either side - a monster, trap-filled dungeon, guards...
So, the heroes do the dangerous work of getting - for instance, if there's treasure in a dungeon, they get past the traps, beat the monsters and solve the puzzles. Then, the villain either shows up, or waits for them outside, to overpower them and take the treasure for himself.
Depending on the situation, the heroes don't have much of a moral ground - they're also stealing from the dungeon, but at least they're brave enough to face the danger. Usually, it's a case of the heroes stealing something from someone actually dangerous, then being pickpocketed by the Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain.
Edited by Mac_R