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Doomed Savior Film
Hello,
I confess I feel a little bit stupid but this "bothers" me for right a while now.
I came up with the name "doomed savior" because it is not always a cop.
Me and my husband love a good horror movie and of course, like "The Cabin in the woods" does: TV-Tropes makes things even better.
A while ago I rewatched "Wrong Turn"and asked my husband why I don't find the trope of "The supposedly savior, who is doomed to die, most times before he even gets the situation." Not always a cop, sometimes a PI, a ranger in some cases a neighbor or anyone who the viewer thinks he can handle himself.
The doomed savior often arrives way too early in the movie, sometimes just because it would be strange if no one would take a look and has to die to toy with the viewer or because he would solve things to early, to cut and dry or in some way that would spoil an open ending or any sequel.
Something between: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PoliceAreUseless
and: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HopeSpot
But that specific that it should have an own trope (and maybe has already but I am to stupid to find it?).
Examples:
Wrong Turn: The cop who came after the "kids" called for help and ends up with an arrow in his eye while asking what the problem is.
"Ma": The cop who comes to Ma's house to save the day ... but gets shot with the gun she earlier said wouldn't even work.
"Greta" the father of the missing girl sends a private investigator, who is killed by Greta while the victim heard everything.
"Shut in", the doctor drives though the storm to warn an save her, because she has no idea that her stepson is not paralyzed (and completely nuts) and gets offed quite shortly after arriving... well, he tried!
I guess I can find more with exact timestamps, but I wanted to make sure, that I am not just to stupid to find the right trope?
That was even as a parody in "Tucker and Dale", the cop doesn't just die because he might have solved the situation, he had to die, because that is the role cops and other "doomed saviors" have in movies like that. Almost like a redshirt, they come and it seems they save the day and minutes or seconds later they are toast.
English is not my first language, so please be kind.
Hope I haven't wasted your time
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Not really the cool guy Film
That kind of scene where a friend introduces another to his club of friends, but the latter realizes that the former is not as popular/liked/considered as he said/thought he was
Fails to be taken seriously Film
In Almost Famous, Penny tells William that he's "too sweet" for Rock and Roll, which leads him to an unintentionally funny (Penny barely stifles a laugh) rant about being "dark, mysterious, and PISSED OFF!"
Is this a thing?
Edited by awakeningcry
Twin child Film
When a pair of characters that are parent (or other ancestor) and adult child and are played by the same actor, making the child basically the identical twin of the parent. It can either be a situation where the parent and child are shown at different points in time and so are at equivalent ages, or they're contemporaries and the parent character is aged using makeup.
The two examples that I can think of most readily are from two Brian De Palma films - the Geneviève Bujold characters in "Obsession", and the John Lithgow characters in "Raising Cain". "Forest Gump" also has this, over several generations. I'm sure there are other examples.
Anyway, is this in TVT and if so, what's it called?
finding father's gun Film
So I'm looking for a trope that could describe those kind fo scenes where a son (or daughter obv) find something about their mother/father that hints to a darker side. For example, a son finding a gun in the attic and hiding just before they are found out looking around in there. Any ideas?
Ridicoulus plan... "I'm in" Film
I think we all know this scene: A group has a new recruit, the new one stands in front of the other and lists the steps of ridicoulus or ridicoulously dangerous plan: "So you want me to ..." or "so we will ... ". Everybody else just looks and listens and in the end confirms with a simple "Yeah, that's pretty much it" or just nods or something. And the person just says: "Ok, I'm in". Recently featured in the new "The Stand" series (EP 4 and the recap at the beginning of 5), but probably also part of Oceans 1x, Mission Impossible or the Fast an Furious series
Advice from a stranger Film
Usually happens towards the end of a story. The protagonist is at a low point, and they sit down and pour their heart out while there is a stranger nearby, possibly a bartender. After the protagonist is done, the stranger gives surprisingly good advice, which likely gives the protagonist the second wind they needed.
A specific example I can name is Billy Idol's cameo in The Wedding Singer. That made got me thinking this seems such a specific and often used thing that it should be a trope. The Kindness of Strangers is a related trope, but much more general.
vision of the dead Film
Wwarning, Spoilers of the rise of skywalker
Hello, I've been looking for a specific trope, where a dead person, usually strictly related to the protagonist, come back as vision in order to talk to them, usually it happens in a single scene and it's a definining moment for the protagonist, kinda like Han Solo appearing to Kylo Ren in rise of skywalker. I've tried looking in "back from the dead" but that kind of applies to resurrections, not visions. Any idea?
Getting the grade but failing the test Film
Is there a trope where a character passes an exam even though they failed it, and this happens because of an unrelated action the character did in the past. "You saved my/father's life" is one that comes to mind. This is specifically not them trying to cheat it. Thanks.
Kid Empowerment Movie Film
Is there a general trope for works where kids, due to some plot contrivance, have a lot of freedom, take part in Wish Fulfillment activities such as eating lots of candy and playing around the house, wear expensive clothes, and eventually fight dim-witted criminals?
I'm thinking about the slew of Home Alone ripoffs from the nineties.
Edited by Mac_R
Drugs in public food as a prank Film
A character puts LSD into the ice cream at a party to get revenge on her cheating ex. Does that fall under Laxative Prank, Tampering with Food and Drink, or Slipping a Mickey?
Dept Store TV Displays Film
In a department store, the display T Vs are all showing images from a nearby unseen video camera. The hero (sometimes the villain) will be "broadcast" on 20-40 TV screens. For some reason, the devices are still operating long after the store has closed for the day.
Edited by Beechmere
"Return to Innocence" Film
Is there any trope that describes a sort of return to innocence from depression and adulthood, like the adults in Paddington experience when befriending him, or like adult Christopher Robin experiences when meeting Pooh and his friends after having gone to war and having a wife and child?
What is the name of trope where you're captured by an enemy and forced to learn their ways? Film
There's a trope in a few movies; like The Last Samurai, where the protagonist is captured by the enemy and forced to learn their ways. After a while, the protagonist might side with them, even though they gain the option to go free. Can someone link me to this trope or where I can find more examples of it? Thanks.
Tension build up when introducing a character that is played by a famous actor Film
This is related and to a degree similar to cameo appearances, but can also happen with characters with a larger role in a movie - basically, when the character is introduced, he or she is shown from different angles, but not revealing the face, before finally showing the face itself, and showing that the character in question is actually played by a famous actor - often, the actor in question is an older, veteran acting legend.
Would anyone else say this is a trope, and, if yes, if it is already featured on the site? Thank you.
Look at me! Can't you see I'm suffering? Film
The trope I'm looking for is from this scene from Harry Potter and the order of the Phoenix, where Harry had a dream about hurting Arthur Weasley
https://youtu.be/1LLBZ2Sj5fk
Harry stands there confused, scared and filled with anger. He doesn't know what's going on with him, why does he still feel like he wants to hurt Arthur, he's so confused and bewildered, he wants to know why he feels this way, but Dumbledore ignores Harry like he has all year, as if he doesn't even notice the state Harry's in, until all that anger makes him snap and yells "look at me!", for Dumbledore to see that Harry is suffering, he doesn't know where all that hate and anger is coming from, why he feels like he still wants to hurt Arthur.
I couldn't find any trope resembling this, that feeling of just wanting to yell, because you feel that people can't see that you're suffering, and finally you snap.
This scene doesn't seem to be mentioned in any of the tropes under Harry Potter, so maybe the trope doesn't exist, but this moment if it doesn't exist, feels like it should because of the power it has.
Harry Potter is mentioned in the trope https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/PunctuatedForEmphasis/Film, but it doesn't mention this scene, and I also feel like that trope isn't what I'm after, it's not just the screaming, it's why he's screaming, it's the feelings associated with scream that's special.
Genius cam Film
When a character is a genius, savant, etc., shots from their perspective show things like diagrams and mathematical equations, often in glowing white lines. Like in The Good Doctor.
Blueprints-dropping future villain Film
Is there a trope for a geeky character who's carrying around a bunch of papers (of their own inventions and/or research), who drops them awkwardly, being humiliated by the boss? I noticed it happening with Cheetah in the new Wonder Woman movie, and the same thing happened with Electron in Amazing Spider Man 2, and Catwoman...
Trying to remember a trope I forgot the name to. Film
If I remember correctly, the trope involved using the dead person's friends/family for example: "Is this what X would've wanted?" I need some help. To quote Hiro Hamada from Big Hero 6: "Is this what Abigail would've wanted?"
Separately Sharing The Same Experience Film
You know that thing where characters that are physically apart from one another seem to be sharing the same emotional experience? Like where you cut from visibly distracted character to another who is elsewhere, knowing that they are both concerned about the same thing. Or with two brother soldiers who are simultaneously being bombarded by the enemy - but on two completely different battlefields.
Imagine Distant Duet without the musical number, or even any dialogue.
Cutaway before gunfire Film
Has there ever been a case where, after a dramatic scene with two characters holding each other at gun point, the 'good guy' actually get shot? Even a case where there's no intervention and they both shoot each other
My plan was to get caught Film
The villain is caught halfway through the film. The heroes are celebrating. But, oh no! Getting caught was part of his plan all along!