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resolved VERIVERY wipeout
m80592718's only edits to the wiki involve wiping out most of the main page for Music.VERIVERY and replacing the entirety of the YMMV page with a generic line of text that doesn't even have a troper attached to it. None of their edits have edit reasons.
Can we get a mod revert (on the main page only, I've restored the YMMV page myself).
Edited by UFOYeahresolved Spotted a non-YMMV trope in YMMV section in Project Zomboid
Okay, I just found this on the YMMV page of Project Zomboid:
- Do Not Go Gentle: A common outcome if one discovers a bite or begins suffering signs of the Knox infection.
Checked this on the YMMV home page and the trope page itself. Both don't have them listed on each another.
What to do with this?
resolved The movies' Jerkass Has a Point, YMMV or not? Film
I have recently found at least two "Jerkass Has a Points" on both separate characters from two different films, examples below.
From YMMV / Bad Santa.
- Jerkass Has a Point: When Willie is eating lunch in the food court, a woman encourages her son to climb on his lap and tell him what he wants for Christmas. Willie yells "I'M ON MY FUCKING LUNCH BREAK!", and we're meant to see it as another example of Willie being horrible with kids. While he did go way overboard, he was off the clock, only in partial costume and had every right to not be bothered by a selfish mother who thought it was okay to crash in on his lunch demanding special treatment for her son.
- Also, while it doesn't justify him trying to kill Willie, it's hard not to agree with Marcus that Willie's reckless and unprofessional behavior has made him more of a liability than anything else, and that without him their plans would go nowhere. Willie's actions throughout the film almost caused them both to be arrested on several occasions, almost caused them to be fired, and allowed them to be blackmailed by Gin. The fact that Willie had already sent a letter reporting the job to the police and forgot about it only drives the point further.
- Jerkass Has a Point: Phil may very well be correct that Rose was gold digging and marrying George because she needed a provider to take care of her and Peter, not because she loved him.
resolved question on "Up For Grabs" TLP
If a draft is Up For Grabs, and you want to contribute an example without adopting the draft, should you still respect not editing the draft directly yourself to add the example to it? Is the expectation the person who eventually adopts the draft will go through all the past comments to update the draft?
basically, does editing courtesy change at all if a draft is "Up For Grabs"?
Edited by IronAnimationresolved Is there an Administrivia about "see above" and "see below"
I'm noticing quite a bit on Tv Tropes examples saying "see above" rather than explaining something for itself. Is there an Administrivia about how examples like this should be handled? Should they be edited to actually clarify rather than assume one would scroll "above" or "below"?
resolved Suì-Fēng or Soi Fon? Anime
The Bleach series is no stranger to the official localization changing over time, such as the Soul Reapers' swords variously being called "Soul Cutters", "Zanpak-to", and "Zanpakutou" over the years; or Ichigo's Getsuga Tenshō being variously spelled with or without a space.
According to the official Masked and UnMasked artbooks, written by Tite Kubo himself, the Captain of Squad 2's name is supposed to be the Chinese "Suì-Fēng", which is pronounced "Soifon" in Japanese. However, VIZ Media's English localization has phonetically transcribed her name as "Soi Fon" and continues to do so even in media released after the artbooks came out — such as Bleach: Brave Souls and the Bleach: The Thousand Year Blood War Arc. However, the TV Tropes pages all refer to her as Suì-Fēng.
What seems to be the case is that the Bleach wiki has prioritized Kubo's spellings (or ones that make sense in the language the different groups use) above VIZ's official English localizations — hence them using diacritics, and spelling "Visored" instead of "Vizard" and "Vollständig" instead of "Vollsterndich" or "Voll Stern Dich"; and the Bleach TV Tropes pages seem to — intentionally or not — have followed suit. But IIRC TV Tropes' policy is to prioritize the official English localization above all others, even if it turns out that localization is incorrect — as in the case of Berserk's Band of the Hawk being properly named "Band of the Falcon" but the English localization continuing to use the incorrect translation, with TV Tropes following suit.
What should be done in this case?
resolved What do we do about this?
But We Used a Condom! uses the words "people with uteruses" to refer to women. Presumably, whoever wrote this was trying to avoid causing offence by excluding "people with uteruses" who don't identify as female, but there are those who think this kind of language is in itself offensive. They feel describing people solely in terms of what reproductive organs they have is dehumanising and smacks of Political Over Correctness.
Don't get me wrong. I'm aware that some people don't identify as whichever gender they were assigned at birth and I've nothing against such people. But words like "men" and "women" are used elsewhere on the wiki, so I was wondering what should be done in the case of this particular article and any other articles where such "inclusionary language" has been used. Specifically, is it OK to change "people with uteruses" to "women" or at least "people assigned female at birth"? Or should the sentence where "people with uteruses" appears be rewritten from scratch?
resolved Non-YMMV trope in YMMV page: Final Fantasy Legend II Videogame
...And I thought it wouldn't ever happen again, but it does:
In the page YMMV.Final Fantasy Legend II, Nintendo Hard is listed there. Speaking of which, Video Games difficulty might be subjective between players, but if a lot of players see the Video Game with trope page in this site is seen as hard, it would been listed in the main page, rather than the YMMV.
Oddly enough, the trope has been there from the creation of the YMMV page, which is relatively new compared to the main Video Game page itself, and created in January 2021, likely to make out a separate YMMV page for Final Fantasy Legend II).
What will I do?
EDIT: As of this TRS thread
, apparently the decision of Nintendo Hard being subjective has resulted it in being moved to YMMV trope. So I guess it's fine to move it back to YMMV. And this is after I self-locked the query by marking it as Resolved! Dang it.
resolved Stub report
Webcomic.Cindy Lee doesn't have a single trope and also lacks a link to the work since it is supposed to be a webcomic. Despite this, it has a character subpage (Characters.Cindy Lee).
Checking both pages' history shows that they were created by a troper named Sochimbuchi, who has only edited these two pages
and nothing else since January of this year. It turns out that Sochimbuchi is the author of this webcomic (mentioned here
), which seems to have opted to delete all tropes and the link to the work
at the end of last year. The webcomic itself also seems to have been deleted from webtoons for unknown reasons (the link
that was originally added no longer works and doesn't appear on the author's webtoons profile page; it hasn't been saved to the wayback machine either).
Can I delete this page?
Edited by SoyValdo7resolved An addition that I might need help on evaluating Western Animation
MamaLadilla suddenly added
the phrase "(and confirmed biologically-female)" to this entry. Turning it from this:
- Viewer Gender Confusion The non-binary Raine Whispers is sometimes mistaken for a man due to their masculine voice and hairstyle, though a flashback episode shows their younger self with a more feminine voice and appearance.
To this:
- The non-binary (and confirmed biologically-female) Raine Whispers is sometimes mistaken for a man due to their masculine voice and hairstyle, though a flashback episode shows their younger self with a more feminine voice and appearance.
OK, first off, where was that confirmed? Second, was this really necessary to add?
Edited by AudioSpeaks2resolved Edit War Film
- Troper Battiste 06 introduced a (faulty) Alternate History entry, which was re-edited countless times until reaching the final form here
- Troper AK 47 Productions cut it here
with a commentary
- Troper Battiste 06 reinstated the entry
without any comment or alternation
On top of that, the entry itself borders on Epileptic Trees, as absolutely nothing in the film even suggests such situation.
resolved Which book of Dragaera is an ontological mystery?
It was in the "ontological mystery" trope. Here's what it says:
Issola: A couple of people our protagonist considered completely indestructible have gone missing. Not even Sethra Lavode, who very much deserves her Shrouded in Myth status, can find them by herself. She knows how to get Vlad there, and he arrives to find his two friends stuck in unbreakable, seamless chains in an empty room with no exits that appears to be on another planet. The plot hinges on figuring out how the hell the bad guys managed it, and why.
resolved Should a stub work page merge with subpages?
Continue from older query
, I think the topic worth its own query.
A week passed and the troper doesn't appeal, so it isn't like they'll get to fix it in timely manner. But what should we deal with the article? The article itself is stub, but it would has enough trope if we combine it with subpages. That being said, I've absolutely 0% interest in this work and feel fixing it is pointless (not counting clean up edit, only one troper contributed to it).
So should we just send the article and its subpage to cut list, or moving some passable content from the subpages to the work page and delete the subpages? Again, the latter sounds like the correct action, yet it leeks of being Polish the Turd.
Edited by Kuruniresolved Invisible Ask
I marked an ask here as Private and I myself can’t see it. Is that normal or did something go wrong and I have to resubmit that ask?
resolved The Troper Page Creation Guide
How do I create my own troper page? I want to create something like this "Tropers / Yatasumuji Senpai" on my own page? I like to edit one by myself but I don’t really know how to? Is there anyway you could help me please, perhaps the instructions would be helpful?
Edited by YatasumujiSenpairesolved RPGs Equal Combat
EDIT never mind, self-solved. I've made a typo in one of the entries, then copied it over to the other, while fixing the original typo. Case closed
Am I missing something, or the link to the trope is busted? I've put it into Oko Yrrhedesa, and both instances are flagged in red. Yet when I compared with other pages using this trope, they display as they should, in blue, using the exact same formatting as I did. Any solutions?
Edited by Tropiarzresolved Odd grammatical perhaps-corrections Videogame
Mr Derpy Kid 2 changed "themselves" into "themself" on Characters.Armored Core VI Main Characters and Characters.Armored Core VI Corporations. I've never seen it used this way before, and all my googling showed was "some people might be using it, IDK spidey lol".
Do I correct this (and send a notifier)? Is this even the sort of change that needs correcting?
resolved Correctly Inputting A Work Webcomic
I'm adding an entry to https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/BecomingTheMask/FanWorks
and am reading how to edit, but I am still have trouble grasping the linking and spoiler codes. Also, do fan work comics go under Fan Works or Web Comics?
Here is the current text, spoilers ahead.
- In * the short comicBecoming The Facade
, by 'Rated-R-PonyStar, two changelings stealthily take out and assume the lives as two royal guards. One of the guards has a family, and the changeling develops a genuine attachment. Unfortunately, he successfully procreates with his "wife", and the other changeling slaughters the family before he can do anything to act on his newfound love. The [[Pun changed changing kills his companion. He is implied to have revealed himself in a [1] as he attends the funeral.]]

I was browsing FanficRecs.The Legend Of Heroes Trails Of Cold Steel’s history where user Alciel 9 linked the page to one recs (Fanfic.Isekaid To A Jrpg As A Harem Member) which has its own page here. This got me wondering; if one the fanfic manage to get its own page, do we link the page or the work itself?