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resolved Is there a point to having a Troper Page?
So, idk if this is a weird question. I'm intrigued by the idea of making a Troper page for myself but, I suppose, don't want to do it "wrong", if that makes sense? Why do people make Troper pages? What should I put on it? Is there a particular advantage to having one? Or is it just like a personal cork board to personalize?
resolved Permission to restore Unintentionally Unsympathetic entry on YMMV/GenV Live Action TV
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.GenV&page=5#edit46057001
I added an Unintentionally Unsympathetic entry regarding one character’s redemption arc.
- Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Cate in Season 2, where both she and Sam are given redemption arcs. By the end of Season 1, after having disregarded her friends' wishes once again, Cate (alongside Sam) led a school massacre to purge God U of humans, regardless of if they were complicit in the Woods. The Boys Season 4 had her eagerly pledge loyalty to Homelander and round up dissidents to put in internment camps. However, the school massacre and the two's commitment to Supe Supremacy are either not mentioned or glossed over in Season 2. Sam felt legitimate doubt and hesitation during the campus massacre and needed his emotions wiped to continue on. After his emotions came back in Season 2 and the ensuing regret impacted him, he worked to improve himself, took responsibility for his actions, and gave Emma a sincere apology. Whereas Cate showed no doubt at any point during the anti-human killing spree (she coldly brushed off Sam's concerns about innocent people dying before offering to wipe his emotions to "help" him) and for the first half of Season 2, refused to accept that anything was her fault and blamed everyone but herself for her misfortune. She only ever acknowledged wrongdoing by episode 7 after she found out Marie could heal her. Yet, throughout the entirety of Season 2, she never gives the gang a sincere apology that she doesn't diminish by then bringing up how she didn't deserve the "murder attempt" on her, which was just Jordan protecting Marie from Cate in self-defense after the latter tried to control Marie into giving up information on Starlight. All in all, Cate came across as caring more about what she did to her friends and wanting back in the group than regretting any of her other terrible crimes, making her redemption feel very much unearned. This feeling wasn't helped by the show also seeming to inexplicably equate Marie lifting her friends off the ground for a few minutes in an attempt to protect them from Cipher (whose puppeteering powers they had no defense against) to the several atrocities Cate committed by abusing her powers.
It was removed on two separate occasions (sorry, I wasn’t aware of the rules. That’s my fault) for these reasons:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.GenV&page=5#edit46056103
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.GenV&page=5#edit46059563
When they came to rescue her in episode 5, Cate was happy but she didn’t actually say that SHE did anything wrong. She just said she was shocked they came “after everything.” Her telling Sam they “hurt people” seemed more like an attempt to get him to back off wanting her to erase his emotions, which she certainly would have done if her powers were working right (she even did it once without his consent earlier this season). And her promise to not use her powers on her friends again doesn’t hold much water since 1.) It’s easy to say that and commit to it when she doesn’t actually HAVE powers at the time, and 2.) She was already given MANY chances in season 1 by the gang to stop doing just that which she didn’t take. It also doesn’t help that she’s guilty of several instances of sexual assault. There were the guards in season 1 she could have easily just put to sleep. And there was arguably her sexual relationship with Golden Boy where she repeatedly wiped certain memories that would’ve made him rightfully repulsed by her. If he had encountered Cate during his maddened rampage, he surely would have given her the same treatment he gave Brink. The Boys universe (rightfully) seems to treat sexual assault as one crime you can’t come back from, as demonstrated by Homelander, Deep, Tek-Knight, Firecracker, and Rufus remaining villains. Not to mention how Cate played along with Firecracker’s transphobic smear campaign against Jordan in episode 4. After Jordan called BS on Cate saying she was “forced” to do it, Cate’s only response was to falsely claim Jordan “tried to murder her and bragged about it in front of the whole school.” Overall, I feel Cate’s a similar case to Lamplighter and Victoria Neuman, who are listed under the Unintentionally Unsympathetic trope over on The Boys. Especially since she didn’t give a genuine apology to anyone and just suddenly seemed to stop hating humans.
Thoughts?
resolved Possible Suspension Dodging/Improper Editing Behavior
So for a while now I've been going back and forth on the Aztec Batman: Clash of Empires YMMV page where this troper "thebendu" keeps editing the one meme entry on that page (a meme of Joker being "based" for siding with the Spaniards to stop the human sacrificing of people and children) where they kept editing it to paint the real life Aztecs as victims of the evil Spaniards, ignoring how that's not what the meme is. Their few other edits where also all focused on whitewashing how brutal the Aztecs were in real life, for what that's worth.
Long story short on that, they kept ignoring the rules on editing or provide any reasoning I reported them and they got suspension. Now I hop on and check that page, some troper who never existed before today called "Boobam 45" just deleted the whole entry claiming it to be "racist" and that it should enter the discussion forms (which they did not do, they just deleted it). Given this was with 24 hours of thebendu's suspension, and they still left an empty Memetic Mutation entry (similar to thebendu's past edits lacking proper formatting), I think this new account is just thebendu under a new name still trying to block that entry despite being reported and suspended once already. There has been no activity on that page aside from myself and them to suggest otherwise.
To be honest I find this whole thing ridiculous and exhausting at this point, this guy is obsessed with not letting a stupid meme be discussed, but the fact remains it seems like there's someone on this site concerned only with rewriting history to what they see as "proper" and is ignoring all the rules and regulations of this site to do so.
Edited by koryresolved Is the Classic Disney Shorts Characters page locked? Western Animation
I was just trying to add some tropes to the Characters page for Classic Disney Shorts, specifically to the folder for the one-shot character Joey the Kangaroo, but whenever I try to save my changes, I'm instead booted to this website's main page. I double-checked my messages, but I don't see any messages about being banned, I'm signed in, so I don't know what's wrong. Is this page under protection, perhaps?
If it helps, this was the rewritten entry I was trying to save:
A baby kangaroo that Donald decides to adopt as his son for some reason.
- Aw, Look! They Really Do Love Each Other: While Joey gets thoroughly into trouble, and ends up putting Donald through the ringer, the short emphasizes that he's not malicious, but just an energetic and mischievous little kid. In fact he cares about Donald a great deal, and he showers Donald with affection at several points. And then there's the climax of the episode, where he thinks Donald has been eaten by a bear, and he goes berserk in his efforts to rescue him..
- Badass Adorable: An adorable infant kangaroo... whose reaction to seeing his adoptive father Donald seemingly be eaten by a full-grown black bear is to beat seven shades of snot out of it to save him.
- Batter Up!: After the initial jab with a red-hot fire poker and a thorough drubbing with his kicks, Joey grabs a handy baseball bat and chases the "bear" around the house with it.
- Badly Battered Babysitter: The central point of comedy of his short is that he's rambunctious and a lot stronger than Donald anticipated, so Donald ends up being run off of his feet. And that's before Donald makes the poorly judged decision to play a joke on Joey by pretending that his bearskin rug is not only a real bear, but one that manages to eat Donald.
- Boxing Kangaroo: He's only an infant kangaroo, but he's already a skilled pugilist, as shown when he attacks the "bear" (really Donald inside of a bearskin rug).
- Hates Baths: At one point in "Daddy Duck", Donald attempts to give Joey a bath, and he is not thrilled at the prospect, using his feet and his tail to brace himself so he can't be forced into the water. It is subtly implied that Joey's refusal stems from the fact the water is too cold, as he's shown dipping his own elbow into it in imitation of Donald and then shuddering in disgust.

Bona FIDE made these edits on Recap.Sponge Bob Square Pants S 2 E 14 Welcome To The Chum Bucket Frankendoodle:
He added Just Eat Gilligan to the page even though it's YMMV now and even then, it makes no sense: Plankton couldn't control what Mr. Krabs was going to bet: his secret recipe (which, let's face it, he would probably never in a million years do even if he was confident he would win) or SpongeBob's employment contract. He also added a Sinkhole elsewhere on the page.
He changed the word "punk" to "jerk" several times for some reason.
Edited by supernintendo128