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resolved William Afton's self-demonstrating page Videogame
Long ago I created a self-demonstrating page for everyone's favorite murderous furry. Said page however was deleted because it was argued in the games Afton had too little lines to warrant his own self-demonstrating page.
Now, I argue we can make another one, mostly thanks to the collab between Five Nights at Freddy's and Dead by Daylight, which gives us a good amount of quotes from Willy and a pretty good idea of what his personality is like. Now I know some people will say "But that's not canon", and while it is true that the collab itself isn't canon (at least to FNAF), it doesn't mean the way he behaves in it isn't: remember everything that was put into this collab had to be approved by Scott Cawthon himself, and seeing how William spoke and acted in Pizzeria Simulator and AR (whose quotes are re-used for the collab) I'd say it's pretty clear that's how Scott imagines William's personality to be like (aka an evil theater kid).
resolved "See the subpage" vs. crosswicking Live Action TV
~Mariofan 99 removed
two Franchise Original Sin examples from YMMV.Obi Wan Kenobi and replaced it with something to the effect of "See FranchiseOriginalSin.Star Wars". I feel like this practice violates Crosswicking policy (i.e. I'm okay with having a franchise hub subpage but I think examples should still be crosswicked on individual work pages), but since I wrote one of the examples myself, I want a second opinion to avoid edit-warring.
They also failed to actually add the removed example to the subpage.
Edited by StarSwordresolved Theme Parks under No Real Life Examples Please? What's the stance/scope?
So, on some pages under No Real Life Examples, Please! (e.g., Americans Hate Tingle), there is a folder for theme parks, which isn't too bad by itself, but several examples list entire parks (Disneyland Paris, Universal Studios Japan, etc) which are real-life places, so I want to question, does their inclusion violate No Real Life Examples, Please!?
My assumption is that:
- Specific theme park rides within the parks(Haunted Mansion, Small World, Wizarding World of HP, Super Nintendo World, etc)/characters original to theme parks/rides (e.g., Duffy, Figment, Hitchhiking Ghosts, etc) - Fine to add and doesn't violate NRLEP since they're works/characters.
- Theme parks as a whole (like listing Disneyland Paris under Americans Hate Tingle) - Violation of NRLEP since theme parks are real-life locales.
But I understand there is a grey area given the nature of theme parks (not unlike sports), and correct me if I'm wrong.
Edited by Tylerbear12resolved Does YMMV have a different standard for natter than Main? Anime
Hi,
This edit
for YMMV.The 100 Girlfriends Who Really Really Really Really Really Love You strikes me as natter. I was looking to edit the paragraph so that it doesn't look like the wiki arguing with itself, but before I do, I wanted to check whether YMMV has a different (lower?) standard for natter than Main.
My reasoning is given that the opinions expressed in YMMV tend to be subjective, does that mean that it's acceptable for Tropers to respond/debate under an entry?
resolved Reporting EditWar (NVM, taking directly to MODS)
- On November 23rd, 2024
, Tropers/BK-notburgerking edited the Adaptation Relationship Overhaul entry for Momo Yaoyorozu on The Best Case Scenario, if you're being "realistic", adding the detail "as they have far more respect for her (and less for Bakugo or Todoroki) than they ever did in canon."
- On June 11th, 2025
, Rebel Falcon (Myself) edited the entry to remove that detail, leaving the edit reason "They had plenty of respect for her in canon".
- The same day, not even 4 hours later
, BK-notburgerking readded the trope, with the edit reason "Not nearly to the same extent as here, especially considering how often others take the spotlight in canon", enacting an Edit War.
This reached the point I had brought it up in ATT once before
resulting in their being suspended, had to open up another ATT just to get permission to revert the edits like I was originally aiming for
, and then get a notification half a year later because they responded to the ATT long after the decision had been made requiring I mark the topic as resolved since it already had been long resolved.
Requesting assistance in this matter, possibly moderator intervention as well. I would send them a PM notifier, but I blocked them from my PM's last year after the original ATT issue, so someone else will have to.
Edited by RebelFalconresolved How to not turn this accidentally into an edit war
This will be a complex one, so bear with me for a moment.
Tief Blau cut from YMMV.Roadwarden entry describing Serial Numbers Filed Off. No edit reason, no nothing, just slashed it. That was my own entry, so re-instating it would be an edit war.
I started discussion, asking for reason. No answer. I can't PM them (don't ask) to summon them, either. And on top of that, TiefBlau did a grand total of 4 edits across past 7 years, so I sincerely doubt they will show up any time soon anyway.
What to do then? I don't know why the entry was cut, I can't put it back as it was and I don't know what to change in it to make it valid (assuming it was invalid in the first place and not cut on a whim).
So what's the procedure here?
.
PS
If there is something at fault with the entry itself
, then help a bloke fix it and thus it will be a non-issue for potential edit-warring
resolved What's the "different things, different rules" trope called?
What's the trope called where different powers are subject to different rules, thus allowing the writers to make up whatever they want without creating inconsistencies?
For example, at 2:48 - 4:07 of this video: https://youtu.be/dWAkcrplBJ0?t=168
you can see Goku giving an overly-detailed explanation about how the Fusion Dance and Potara Earrings are two completely different things, and thus, we don't need a justification for why one works inside Majin Buu's body but the other doesn't. It's justified *because they're different,* and because they're both made up magical items, Toriyama can make up whatever rules he wants for each without contradicting himself, no matter how arbitrary those differences may seem otherwise.
Another example of this trope comes at 2:22 - 2:47 of this video: https://youtu.be/a_b8O4HMXTk?t=142
. In that episode, it was explained that the device Billy used last season to undo his de-aging had a belated side effect. This doesn't create an inconsistency with the other power rangers. Why aren't they also rapidly aging? Easy: Because they used the Zeo Crystal to reverse their de-aging, not the device powered by the old power coins. Different macguffin, therefore, different rules apply. No further explanation necessary.
An example where this DOESN'T apply can be found at 19:05 - 19:25 of this video: https://youtu.be/gcSRUZ0oNq0?t=1145
. Billy explains he can't become the Gold Ranger because, when the Command Center blew up, he absorbed a large amount of [insert random technobabble here], causing his body to resist the Gold Ranger powers.
But that doesn't make one bit of sense. At 7:07 - 7:17 of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cynLGdMWoVs&t=427s
, Billy explains that the Gold Ranger powers are identical to the Zeo powers the other rangers already had. They were standing in the exact same spot when the Command Center blew up, and yet they were able to accept the Zeo Powers at the start of the series without any problems.
So, this is a case where it's NOT "different things," and therefore, it should follow that you can't just make up an explanation for one character that doesn't also apply to the others. It's the same powers, and the same explanation for why Billy couldn't take them should also apply to the other rangers. So the writers really dropped the ball in that little exchange.
So what is this writing trope called, where you can quickly and easily explain away seemingly arbitrary treatment on the grounds that different mystical and/or sci-fi macguffins were used?
resolved Galthran Etruk's Voice Actor Videogame
A while ago the troper Recon Decon listed Lex Lang as the voice actor of Galthran Etruk from Dragon Rage. The problem with this is that all of the voice actors including Lex Lang are of the Unspecified Role Credit variety in the game. I have asked him to provide some sort of evidence to support this claim, but he's provided me with little than a link to a site that requires a membership to see
(I myself can't see it.) and Recon Decon hasn't responded to my messages since the 6th. Can a member to this site check this link and share what evidence is provided to support this claim?
P.S. I have since created a WMG page section dedicated to trying to figure out which voice actor voices which character.
Edited by RonnieR15resolved Edit warring on the Voltes V Legacy YMMV page
I removed the Germans Love David Hasselhoff entry over there because apart from being messy and over cluttered like whoever put it there was trying way too hard to prove a point, I looked at the lists and it showed nothing but positive first impressions and the tropers who put it there making assumptions based on those. It's particularly egregious how they even listed individual comments/notes from random individuals and fansubs. I mean, fansubs can simply mean a show has a very small cult following or even just curious individuals who dubbed something for the heck of it. It doesn't prove anything, as far as I'm aware. Even more egregious is the fact that Voltes V Legacy is only seeing what appears to be a dub in Spanish speaking countries, and when I looked at it, it's not even an officially sanctioned dub, just the passion project of a certain few individuals who were fans of the original Voltes V anime and not necessarily the live-action show itself. There's no real evidence that the show became an audience favorite based on those lists.
I'm bringing the issue here because someone who contributed to that entry's list of info decided to readd the deleted entry
after I removed it. I'll concede if the list is enough proof to list as GLDH, but I still would like to hear others' takes on what really counts as proof of a GLDH situation.
resolved Somebody turned a proper wick into a disambig wick
Few days ago on WhatCouldHaveBeen.Hololive (as seen on this edit
), a troper somehow changed the Franchise.Devil May Cry wick into VideoGame.Devil May Cry... which doesn't make sense because the Franchise one is already the proper wick that doesn't need fixing or changing at all, while the VideoGame one creates a green wick that leads to a disambig page.
I'm making this ATT just to be safe, because I originally used the Franchise wick before on that example, and changing it back myself might somehow make others think it's an edit war. Also, this is the first time I've ever seen a troper turn a blue wick into a green disambig wick, and I'm not sure if it was intentional or accidental.
resolved Page attracting drama importation
Due to recent allegations of rape against the content creator in question, the YMMV page for animation reviewer Saberspark has been attracting drama importation and edit disputes between multiple users. The edit history
has the details, but here's a quick summary:
- Jibanyan 641 added the following under Harsher in Hindsight:
- The Jayman 49 rewrote it to this:
- Corporal Pig 22 then added "(falsely)" before "accused" in the previous sentence.
- Blue Blazes then removed "(falsely)" and added "(though he denies the allegations), along with the fact Saber has come under scrutiny for his continued association with Black Gryph0n despite Gabriel currently having several allegations of grooming and child predation against him." after "2025".
- Rise from Your Grave then appended "and says in a response video that he is looking into legal avenues to deal with the situation" after "allegations".
Given all the drama, should this page be temporarily locked? Or is there another path that can be taken?
Edited by themayorofsimpletonresolved Monster Strike needs a lot of help. Videogame
Monster Strike needs help for these reasons:
- Lacks tropes: Monster Strike has tons of characters, and thus a lot of tropes. The problem is there's TOO MANY of them. Just for reference, there's over 140 non-copied impossible+ characters (Impossible/Bakuzetsu/Gouzetsu/Reizetsu), assuming 1 trope for each character, that's still 140 tropes, and that's assuming only 1 trope for each characters and JUST these characters.
- Almost no one's contributing: for examples, the only contribution I have seen is from myself. Though this isn't much of a surprise because the game's very obscure outside of Japan, and I don't really see any Japanese tropers.
- Needs a split: Monster Strike is a multi media franchise with anime and video game. The problem is there's only the Video game namespace and not the anime.
- Needs extra namespaces: Currently there's only Tear Jerker, Wild Mass Guessing and Laconic namespaces.
- Monst Dictionary (provides backstory and lore for a good chunk of characters): https://dic.xflag.com/monsterstrike/
- Game official YouTube channel (could provide some Words of God and a few tropes): https://youtube.com/@monsterstrike
- Anime official YouTube channel (provides lore and tropes): https://youtube.com/@monst_animation
- Monster Strike wiki (English names and characters without Monst Dic profile): https://monster-strike-enjp.fandom.com/wiki/Monster_Strike_Wiki
resolved Possibly old Cartoon Network show where a female character is burned alive in a bonfire Western Animation
Hey everyone! I’ve been trying for years to figure out if a scene I saw as a kid was real or just a fever dream. I hope someone here can help me identify it.
What I remember:
I watched this episode sometime between 2016 and 2018, but I’m pretty sure the cartoon itself was much older, probably from the early/mid-2000s era (Billy and Mandy, Cow and Chicken, Courage the Cowardly Dog, etc.).
Channel: I’m almost certain it aired on Cartoon Network, but there’s a slight chance it might have been Nickelodeon.
The episode had an extremely dark and disturbing tone. The most vivid memory I have is of a female character (probably human) being thrown into a large bonfire by a group of other characters.
It happened at night, and the fire had huge flames. I distinctly remember her screams — they were loud, desperate, and very unsettling.
After she was burned, the other characters acted like it was normal — they seemed to be celebrating or socializing, totally unbothered.
The visual style was odd — it had low saturation, almost grayish tones. It stood out from typical colorful cartoons.
Art style: I can’t recall exactly, but it felt like something in between the smoother style of Teen Titans (2003) and more exaggerated cartoony animation.
I vaguely recall the girl begging or pleading before being thrown in, but nobody helped her.
What it wasn’t:
I’ve already checked and it’s definitely not: Billy and Mandy, Happy Tree Friends, Superjail!, or Courage the Cowardly Dog.
If this rings any bells, or if anyone remembers something similar, I’d really appreciate any leads — even if it turns out to be a lost episode, a banned scene, or just something obscure.
Thank you guys so much in advance!
Edited by ReconditeBoil434resolved New spammer
New troper milobanana
is spamming various pages with gibberish in a way that reads like a spammer and not just a confused newbie troper:
- i AM REA
- the blue man is here
- And whatever this
is.
resolved Help with page? Anime
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Funny/MyDeerFriendNokotan
It's been super long since last edit and i can't fill up the page myself. Can anyone help out?
resolved Interesting edits on Gender-Equal Ensemble
On November 1st, 2024, I added an example of this trope from Bad Times at the Battle Royale, a movie that I had put together a couple of years ago, and in December 25th, 2024, I did the same thing for Lights, Camera, Action! Moviemaking Mania. Both examples were also crosswicked to their respective film pages. So far, so good.
Fast-forward to January 14th, 2025 where user Diask changed almost every single instance of "male and female" on the article to something different. Some examples have "males and females" changed to "guys and girls", while it was far more common for instances of "males and females" to be changed to "men and women". All of this without an edit reason. And yes, both of my film examples were caught in the crossfire.
What reason would this user have to change almost every example of "males and females" without specifying exactly why? I'm concerned undoing these changes (especially in regards to both of my film examples) might lead to an edit war and possibly another suspension, hence why I'm bringing this up here first and foremost to see what others think. I myself find it weird to make these sorts of massive changes without prior discussion, especially for an article specifically talking about how the gender ratio between male and female is exactly 50/50 for certain works of art. If it's already correct to use "male and female" to refer to both genders, then why bother changing it?
Before anyone asks, I did check the Discussion tab for Gender-Equal Ensemble to see if I could find anything, but there was nothing. If there was a discussion regarding this elsewhere on the site (particularly a forum thread or two), then please let me know about any such areas so I can take a closer look.
Initial Battle Royale edit on Gender-Equal Ensemble by myself: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.GenderEqualEnsemble&page=23#edit42324893
Initial Lights, Camera, Action! edit on Gender-Equal Ensemble by myself: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.GenderEqualEnsemble&page=23#edit42887001
Edit to Gender-Equal Ensemble by Diask changing almost every instance of "male and female" without prior discussion: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.GenderEqualEnsemble&page=23#edit43089160
resolved Edit-warring over which image version to use for a character
A couple days ago I did a batch image addition and upgrade to The Apothecary Diaries — Named Clans. After I was done, ~C Ray reverted the image for Lahan to the one they had previously uploaded.
- original
by C Ray
- quality upgrade
by myself
- CRay reverts to their version

The issue I was having is that Dizzleboy added two ZCE examples, which I ratioed, and asked for context.
Instead, he added another example, for Evangelion, which is both inaccurate and seemingly fetishizes the character of Asuka. In her introductory episode, when she's wearing her sundress, she is introduced not as innocent, but as brash, arrogant, and egotistical, as well as self-important. And as I said, the language Dizzleboy uses seems...fetishist.