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resolved Edit War on YMMV for Codes and Geass: Embracing Your Inner Megalomania
On April 12th, 2021, while reading the forum on Questionable Questing for the fanfic "Codes And Geass: Embracing Your Inner Megalomania", I came across a user under the belief that the author of the fic, Tropers/Trickster_Priest, was applying Ron the Death Eater to the characters of Nagisa Chiba and Shogo Asahina.
- Ron the Death Eater: Like many other fanfics, Chiba and Asahina fall victim to this. Contrasted with canon where, while the two are shown more distrustful of Zero after he abandoned them during the Black Rebellion and appeared unapologetic when he returned, and only betrayed him when given sufficient evidence to suggest he crossed the line, the Geass Order massacre for Asahina and the doctored evidence Schneizel provided for Chiba, here they are depicted as disloyal and belligerent from the outset, not helped by Trollouche going out of his way to antagonize them. For specifics though:
- Asahina is made out to be against Trollouche's leadership from the start, to the point he secretly aids an attempted coup d'etat and alliance with the Chinese Federation, and then subjected to a Uriah Gambit as punishment, said gambit resulting in his death due to Kewell emerging in the Siegfried.
- Chiba regularly badmouths Trollouche, stirred up unrest against the Britannian members of the Black Knights, and attempted to convince Tohdoh to stage another coup while Trollouche was comatose, only failing because Tohdoh had Undying Loyalty to Trollouche and C.C. was listening in, the latter of whom Chiba attacks upon discovering her listening in, only for C.C. to nearly kill as a means of putting the fear of god into her, and only spares her due to Tohdoh promising to kill her himself if she continues her treasonous behavior.
- Butt-Monkey: Ohgi, Asahina, and Chiba all are on Trollouche's shit list because he remembers who was responsible for the betrayal in canon.
- The Chew Toy: Trollouche goes out of his way to provoke people he doesn't like, particularly Chiba and Asahina of the Four Holy Swords. YMMV as to whether he's justified in blaming them for the events of the original timeline or not.
- Rather than step on landmines by commenting in the forums Trickstar Priest, I will just put this here: you are bashing Chiba and Asahina like many other fanfic writers. And remember, please don't remove this just because you disagree.
After adding it, Tropers/shadowwolf75 decided to immediately remove it, their edit reason being:
- Hi, I'm not trickster and you are still wrong; the difference here was Lelouch being more aggressive in calling it out because he remembered they were trouble before, they had NEVER liked him in canon and fucked him over later, and thus it does not fall to the extremes of Ron The Deatheater
- This is a YMMV trope. There are users in the forum who see this to be the case as they call out Trickster Priest for bashing. Just because you disagree doesn't mean you can remove a subjective trope, since you are only a single person. Take it up with trope repair threads if you absolutely must. Otherwise, remove it again, it's officially an Edit War.
While that initially appeared to be the end of it... Trickster Priest edited the page themself using the fact they were the author as justification in blatant defiance of "The Fic May Be Yours, but the Trope Page Is Ours". They additionally accused me of being anirock and doing this just because they didn't agree with "me".
- I however, am Trickster. And you are misrepresenting the situation and ignoring the nuances. And pulling this because I disagreed with your interpretation in the thread on QQ is especially galling.
This has escalated into a full out Edit War, and rather than do something stupid like restore the entry again or argue with Trickster Priest, I decided it prudent to take the matter to ATT, as Trickster Priest is blatantly ignoring Administrivia, and this is not the first time they have done so. And rather than argue as to why the trope doesn't apply, they instead accuse me of misinterpreting things and being a sockpuppet account for a different user with similar objections. So I am requesting ATT to step in to resolve this dispute.
Edited by RebelFalconresolved Conservational and Off-Topic Headscratchers
The entry on Headscratchers.Incredibles 2 "Why isn't it called The Incredibles 2?" had the following entry:
- The point of headscratchers is to try and provide an "in-universe" answer to the question provided. Nothing in the story provides any plausible reason for why the title of the movie would drop the "The" so this really isn't an answerable "Headscratchers" question. Any reason given here is speculation or pure imaginative fun.
After this, the discussion shifted to forum like conservation between posters on the purpose and merits of the Headscratchers answers and less on the actual question itself, which seems improper for Headscratchers.
Edited by costanton11resolved Mandalorian Memes Live Action TV
Some of these Memes.The Mandalorian entries have two bullet points each in the page source, yet display with single indentation. What messed up the coding?
- Mando doing sidequests.Explanation Jokes about Din being Railroaded into doing "sidequests" (or favors) in order to get the information he needs have been made.
- Mando making new friends every episode (or at least in Season 2).Explanation The show's frequent use of guest-of-the-week, especially notable in Season 2, where most of the episodes have Mando becoming Fire-Forged Friends with at least one new character.
- "I can help you, but first I need something from you."Explanation Season 2 can essentially be summed as a constant Fetch Quest, as Mando is constantly doing favors for other characters in exchange for something, only to then meet someone else who wants a favor from him in exchange for another thing, and so on. Most egregious when he finally did find a Jedi, Ahsoka, only for her to turn him away and point him to Tython instead.
- Din Cry Laughing after being told to go to another planet.Explanation The summer after Pedro Pascal finished filming The Mandalorian Season 2, he landed two roles in the Zoom-based "play" I, My Ruination, which starred Paul Giamatti as A Streetcar Named Desire director Elia Kazan; one scene has Streetcar writer Tennessee Williams (Pascal) experience an alcohol-induced mood swing, prompting a concerned Elia to exclaim, "Hey!" multiple times, before asking, "What's going on?" After "The Jedi", some Star Wars fans posted the clip with captions referring to it as Din's thoughts after learning he'd have to travel somewhere else to finish his mission.
- The Mandalorian on Omegle by Tiktoker cosplayer tokenasianfriend.
- "Okay, just... just give me one second. I'll be right back."Explanation ”The Mandalorian" meeting a stranger who doesn't like Star Wars or The Mandalorian, prompting Mando to awkwardly excuse himself before somehow appearing in the stranger's house to beat him up.
- "Okay Mando, show me your cock or the kid dies!" "Aw, fu—" Chapter 14: The TragedyExplanation A Boba cosplayer (or more accurately, someone wearing a Boba mask) having a Nerf gun put up to a doll of the Child, demanding to the Mandalorian on the other line to show his... penis or else he'll kill the kid. Going with the common joke about not wanting to be Mistaken for Gay, it's joked that Mando being forced to show his wang to another guy is just as tragic if he showed his face to a living being.
- "You're the guy from Fortnite!"Explanation One of the Omegle people in the same video joking that he recognizes the Mandalorian as a Fortnite character due to him having recently become a sponsored character in the game at the time of the video.
resolved Two more screwed up custom titles
Bara and Girl Love (both of them locked redirects) are displaying as "Bara Genre" and "Yuri Genre" respectively. This type of move was common in the old days, but we no longer allow custom title renames.
The latter is not to be confused with Girls' Love, itself a redirect to Yuri Genre, which displays properly.
(If the following links both display correctly, the issue has been fixed: Bara, Girl Love.)
resolved Here's johnny?
Taylorswiftscat edited the quotes page for replacement scrappy
, just as one of johnnyfog's socks did, along with johnny himself. They also edited a bunch of quotes pages and the WCW page
.
They do seem suspiciously familiar with the wiki for a newcomer, based on my interactions with them.
Edited by SkyCat32resolved Characterization tag removal plugin
On 11 September, NES Boy ran a plugin on the Ret-Gone page which erased all characterization tags... by removing everything after the tag, which certainly wasn't their intent. Oddly enough, this edit also changed the past-tense "retgonned" to "retgonne", which itself indicates use of a plugin.
resolved YouAreNotAlone page
Self-Demonstrating content on You Are Not Alone was added back after previously being removed.
resolved All lowercase trope name
Is there a particular reason the trope title for Going to the Store is in all-lowercase? all lowercase letters at least has it as a self-referential joke.
Edited by megarockmanresolved Work with no tropes found Film
Madras Cafe had no tropes listed when I stumbled upon it via Wiki Walk. I've added one from the trope I found it from but it needs more, I've not seen it myself so I'm in no position to add insight on it, and I don't know where else to bring this up (Needs More Wicks seems to be cases of trope pages needing listing, not works).
resolved The Demonic Joker Playing Card
Hey! So I have a question. I found one of the early illustrations in the Joker playing card (not Batman's Joker; the playing card itself) of some sort of demonic jester or jerster-like demon who's laughing his a$$ off
◊ and I want to put it in one of the tropes (I was thinking it would go perfectly in the Monster Clown trope, but maybe it could also be in the Our Demons Are Different and/or the Playing Card Motifs trope). The thing is that I don't really know the ORIGIN of that same illustration in the first place. I tried searching on Google but I didn't find any info., and then I asked in Quora (https://www.quora.com/Why-is-there-an-image-of-a-demon-devil-laughing-in-one-of-the-many-illustrations-in-the-Joker-card-not-in-Batmans-Joker-cards-but-in-the-real-Joker-playing-card-itself?ch=10&share=5d54e8c2&srid=FTX7M
), in which one of the users gave me a POSSIBLE explanation (I hope (s)he didn't erased it), but I don't know if it's the right answer and I don't wanna take risks. Could you tell me please what's your opinion?
resolved Edit requests from Web Creators:
A while ago, Adam Buckley himself requested that this particular edit be made to the Berserk Button entry on his page:
- ENTITLED IDIOTS note Bolded and enlarged as per his request here
- ENTITLED IDIOTS note Bolded and enlarged as per his request here
How do I expand this particular zero context example without breaking "The Fic May Be Yours, but the Trope Page Is Ours"?
I'm thinking something like:
- Buckley has no patience for ENTITLED IDIOTS who believe that they should get whatever they want whenever they demand it.
resolved Famous Last Words
I noticed some people have said that Famous Last Words is too broad and often includes numerous examples of "things people happened to say before they died." I admit, I myself have added such examples. Is there an official rule on what can be included?
resolved Possible EditWar on Characters/KingdomHeartsEnemyCreatures Videogame
In January 2019, both Phoenixion and Mattman_the_Storyteller deleted tropes that suggested that Commantis is actually a Brainwashed and Crazy spirit. Both gave edit
reasons
that said, basically, that the game itself gave no evidence to this.
In October, Aurawick added
the tropes back with no edit reason.
Personally, I agree with both Phoenixion and Mattman_the_Storyteller. Looking back, there is no evidence in game for the tropes. But since the tropes were added back without a reason, is this an Edit War?
Edited by SailorTardisresolved No Title Film
SelfDemonstrating.The Beast Of Yucca Flats appears to be mostly identical to its non-SD page.
Botched attempt to remove the self-demonstration?
resolved You can't use playing with when troping real life, can you?
Home by Christmas. The trope isn't on NRLEP so there's no problem with Real Life folder itself. However, The Big Bopper added several Averted Trope, Inverted Trope, and call one "played straight" (and this one is minor Wall of Text) to Real Life folder World War II entry.
Edited by Kuruniresolved recap page not being made Western Animation
I've been working on making recap pages for episodes of The Emperor's New School. However, when I make one for The Emperors New School S 1 E 20 The Yzma The Stole Kuzcoween Monster Masquerade, it doesn't appear even after I hit save. the link becomes blue on the recap home, but the page itself says the article doesn't exist. Anybody else having this problem?

So some users seem to really want to fit Karli Morgenthau into an Unintentionally Unsympathetic entry on this page. As follows:
Version no. 1:
Version no. 2:
And Version no. 3:
Putting aside that a character can't crost the MEH more than once, I don't feel like proper protocol was followed. as you can see here
, the first version was added in by Your Boy Russell on April 23rd before being edited to the second version by Hissing Aurora 94 the same day. I then deleted it a few hours later because it was a self-arguing entry, telling them to take it to the cleanup thread to discuss it first. Then the third version was added yesterday by Dragon 101. They did not bring it to the discussion thread, or really discuss it in any way before re-adding a version of the entry.
Look, I don't really care if some people don't like one character on the show but this doesn't work, right? At best the entry is bad and needs to be edited, at worst it needs to be deleted for poor curation.
Edited by MinisterOfSinister