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resolved Convoy914
Per here
, Convoy914
has a history of shoehorning edits regarding Isarel-Palestine War into Superman (2025), complete with rude edit reasons
where they outright admit to having an agenda.
Further discussion shows that it's the only thing they edit about. It was even suggested in the ROCEJ thread
that a report should be made, so I did just that.
resolved UnwieldyLeptocephalus20
A troper by the name of Unwieldy Leptocephalus 20 has an unfortunate habit
of creating stub pages
that consist solely of “TBA”
(most
ly
re
cap
pa
ges
), only to never edit them again. Should something be done about this?
resolved Confusing ban
Completelynormal is banned, I have no idea why, nobody seems ro have any idea why, they can't get on the edit banned/suspended thread, and this is clearly an error. Does anybody know what the hell is going on here?
resolved Another ZCE edit war Western Animation
On WesternAnimation.Faces Music Party, Fair Maiden 123 is edit warring over a Growling Gut example that lacks any context:
- On May 29, FairMaiden123 adds the example
.
- Today, I commented out the example
and sent FairMaiden123 a notifier.
- Not long after I commented the example out, FairMaiden123 removes the comment markup
.
resolved Toot and grammar/shoehorning in personal opinions (again)
Despite having already been suspended for grammar issues and brought up here
for shoehorning in grammatically-poor personal opinions, Toot is still at it to this day. From this page
alone (and with all edits being in the past week):
- Jerkass Woobie: Although Wendy basically acted like a envy bitch the whole episode and led the bullying of her bestie Bebe, she still felt sorry for her because her boyfriend Stan started to neglect her in favor of her best friend and basically cucked on her, which was the catalyst for her nasty behavior (and then he go and make fun of her instead of everyone else..
- Unintentionally Sympathetic: In this episode, Wendy comes across as a jealous hypocritical bitch who deserves the humiliation she receives. However, some viewers feel that she comes off as a victim of a cheating abusive boyfriend who dumped her to hit on her best friend and then mocked her with everyone instead of defending her, and therefore sympathize more with her insecurities, feeling that her bad behavior in this episode is entirely Stan's fault.
- Unintentionally Unsympathetic: The boys' actions in this episode were meant to cast them in a sympathetic light. However, they also ruthlessly objectified Bebe for the entire episode, and at the end of the episode apologized to each other but not to her. There's also the fact that Stan pretended to be more interested in her than anyone else, while being in a dating with Wendy and ignoring her the entire episode, and then mocking her with everyone else, which makes him the worst of them all.
- The Woobie: Bebe, who has had to put up with being harrasment on by boys and insulted by girls for the entire series.
So, yeah, nothing's changed...
resolved Concern
Over on https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.TheSimpsonsS8E15HomersPhobia&page=3
, drifloon empire added
Harsher in Hindsight: The rise of grooming behavior in the LGBTQ+ community towards young children in the later 2010's onward only serves to make Homer's paranoia towards John more understandable. In turn, this makes things even more unfortunate for a well-intentioned man like John, as even today many would judge him based on the behavior of his peers.
Don’t get me wrong I’m sure there is grooming in the queer community, but this is a right wing talking point often used as an excuse to hurt trans kids. I don’t think the editor has any other bad edits, but I just wanted to bring this up.
resolved YMMV removal
I’ve noticed a new troper, REDDITSAYTHISISTRASH, has deleted some entire YMMV pages, namely YMMV.The Last Of Us Part II, YMMV.Star Vs The Forces Of Evil, and YMMV.She Hulk Attorney At Law. They also are deleting a couple YMMV examples citing reddit links (Ben 10
, Wild Robot
, and Doki Doki Literature Club
). What should be done?
resolved Sayaka sock, June 2025 edition
Sakaya is back once again as dizzymustang47
, making edits to the same pages as them, such as adding Moments subpages for that one episode of Phineas and Ferb and numerous MST3K pages.
resolved Why is there likes and dislikes now?
The forum posts now have a like-to-dislike ratio at the bottom right corner. Can someone explain why this was necessary.
resolved Colonel-Knight-Rider and The Super Mario Bros. Movie Hate
Okay, so a certain troper, Colonel-Knight-Rider, has been adding multiple They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character entries on the YMMV section of The Super Mario Bros. Movie and one of them especially stuck out to me as being especially nitpicky.
- Spike. His only reason for being in the movie is to drive home the point further that Mario and Luigi hated their old jobs, whatever they were, hence their plumbing business; and that they've received unjust derision for their ambitions, which they've already received repeatedly from their father. Beyond that, he does nothing to help or hinder Mario's quest to save Luigi. And, during the final battle, pretty much all Spike does is notice Bowser's castle popping up in Brooklyn before fleeing from the unusual sight. If Spike disappeared from the movie, the Mario Bros. would still undergo the same character arc of trying to win their father's approval. (By contrast, the activities of what many consider to be his 1993 movie counterpart Anthony Scapelli kickstart the Bros.' whole interdimensional adventure!)
Ignoring the fact that Spike's whole point in the movie is to be a minor character, he actually does impact the plot in some way by being one of the main reasons for why Mario feels so "small" and "insignificant" to everyone and adding to Mario's motivation of wanting to feel more important, which is what motivates him to fix a flooding in Brooklyn and therefore leads him and Luigi to the Mushroom Kingdom and the Dark Lands respectively and the rest is history. Also some weird 1993 movie glazing because Vindicated by History I guess.
Also the troper who added this, Colonel-Knight-Rider, seemingly has a serious vendetta and hatred towards this movie as they have been adding constant negative examples and downright complainy edits at times to their examples in this movie's YMMV section (with them also citing a random YouTuber, The Little Platoon, who gave a negative review towards the movie in many of their YMMV edits and examples for some reason)
This is their edit about said YouTuber in the Awesome Music section for some reason.
- While YouTube commentator The Little Platoon argued that the movie wasted a lot of opportunities to do something original with its source material to create a unique experience one couldn't get from just playing a game, he, too, stated that he enjoyed Tyler's score, citing it as the most redeeming aspect of the film by balancing the familiar with the new.
This is their edit about said YouTuber again on the They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot section.
- Another complaint among fans, particularly YouTube commentators such as The Little Platoon, is that the movie wasted its potential to do something more with its references besides simply showing them to appeal to nostalgia for the games—specifically, to use them to build a more complex and intricate world with them and develop the main and supporting cast more, as well as to take time to introduce the characters and the world they inhabit to people who might not know who they are (sure, Mario and Luigi are pretty well-known even in non-fan circles, but not as many non-fans know who Peach, Bowser, Toad, Kamek, etc. are), in a manner similar to how the Marvel Cinematic Universe introduced its characters to non-Marvel Comics fans and expanded the Marvel fanbase as a result.
All of this implies a possible case of Single-Issue Wonk is at foot here. For example, this is a Kong section that they added to the They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character section with an especially complainy part at the end that was edited out by another troper.
- The Kongs themselves. Even if Peach had never taken Mario and Toad to the Jungle Kingdom, Mario still would have trained more to learn how different power-ups work and how to navigate different obstacles, used the power-ups to be a One-Man Army and save Luigi and the other hostages, accidentally transported the principle players and Bowser's castle to Brooklyn, gotten a hold of the Super Star, and saved the day, just like he does in the final cut. In that sense, the Kongs, like a lot of stuff in this movie, were added solely for nostalgic appeal and contribute nothing to the outcome of the story whatsoever.
This is not the first time they’ve done this too. They did this before on January this year as well with just as much of an egregiously complainy addition at the end as well. I deleted this one myself because of how egregiously complainy it was as well as giving reasons as to why the Kongs were necessary to the plot of the movie.
- The Kongs. With or without them, Mario still would've trained to perfection (and likely learned more about how powerups work, so he'd know which to use to save the prisoners himself without Donkey Kong's strength) rescued Luigi, created a dimensional merge with the Bomber Bill, and saved the day with the Super Star, just like he did. Effectively, with the Bros. being a one- (or two-) man army, Peach didn't need help from the Kongs at all, but they were clearly included nonetheless to pad out the runtime and for nostalgic appeal, as were a fair bit of things in this movie.
I tried DMing them to stop with their seemingly Single-Issue Wonk behavior regarding this movie and they did at first adjust and edit their Kong example to be more fair and less complainy as shown here:
- The Kongs, at least those excluding Donkey Kong. Even if Peach had never taken Mario and Toad to the Jungle Kingdom, Mario still would have trained more to learn how different power-ups work and how to navigate different obstacles, used the power-ups to be a One-Man Army and save Luigi and the other hostages (possibly with a strength-granting power-up like the Mega Mushroom), accidentally transported the principle players and Bowser's castle to Brooklyn, gotten a hold of the Super Star, and saved the day, just like he does in the final cut. All while not being eaten by the Maw-Ray as a result of never traveling by Kong-made Karts. Although it could be counter-argued that DK's strength is necessary to hoist the prisoners to freedom, with the prospect of saving his species as his motive, the rest of the Kongs don't really get a chance to do what they were hired for after that and fight against Bowser's forces.
and I thought they had stopped altogether, but they have since then continued to add more negative examples like the "Spike" one as well as a So Okay, It's Average example towards the movie as well.
- In the view of professional and amateur critics alike, while the movie succeeds in avoiding Illumination's usual film structure and offers some impressive animation, orchestral scoring, and obvious passion for the source material, it doesn't offer much else beyond that. So, it's a fun, harmless means of escapism Mario fans of all ages with a good few memorable action sequences, and it took a labor of love to create every piece of eye and ear candy, but those expecting to see groundbreaking plot development, complex character dynamics, and meta-humor on par with those of The LEGO Movie or Barbie shouldn't get their hopes up high.
This is an Ass Pull entry that they added on January this year that I deleted for reasons explaining how it’s not an Ass Pull.
- Toad is somehow able to smuggle an ice flower into Peach's wedding bouquet so she can use it to freeze Bowser despite the movie not showing how he got it, let alone in a giant floating castle island made of volcanic rock.
I went to the They Wasted A Perfectly Good Cleanup forum
and they gave me permission to delete their They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character entries so I already took care of those.
Is there anything we should do about the others?
Edited by Fireball246resolved Possible vandalism?
I've noticed lately that a lot of entries on some Aladdin-related pages have been getting deleted, without any real edit reasons, by troper Yume Nikk 1, and it seems like these kinds of edits make up most of what they do on this wiki judging by their edit history: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=YumeNikk1
Here are some examples of the entries they've deleted, with, again, little to no reason given:
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.AladdinDisneyProtagonists&page=1#edit43584554
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.AladdinDisneyProtagonists&page=1#edit43466685
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.AladdinDisneyProtagonists&page=1#edit43369561
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.AladdinDisneyProtagonists&page=1#edit43078180
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.AladdinDisneyProtagonists&page=1#edit43076409
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.AladdinDisneyProtagonists&page=1#edit43076399
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=FanficRecs.AladdinDisney&page=1#edit43199467
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Funny.AladdinTheSeries&page=11#edit43077974
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Funny.AladdinTheSeries&page=11#edit43076324
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.Aladdin1992Disney&page=1#edit43116675
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.Aladdin1992Disney&page=1#edit43077889
(this one wasn't technically deleting, but I'm still not quite sure I understand why so much of this entry was trimmed down)
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.Aladdin1992Disney&page=1#edit43076236
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.Aladdin1992Disney&page=1#edit43076222
(these last two are ones that Yume Nikk 1, admittedly, did provide edit reasons for, but their edit reasons assert that these are Zero Context Examples, which... again, I'm not really seeing it)
I was contemplating restoring some of these examples, but I didn't want to run the risk of potentially starting an edit war, so that's why I'm taking this issue here. What do you all think? Am I making a mountain out of a molehill here?
resolved Easily Forgiven, now complaining magnet.
Easily Forgiven was recently made YMMV, and it's now attracting a lot of complainy edits (despite cleanup saying they should be neutral
) that seem redundant with Unintentionally Unsympathetic (worse, UU without explaining why their forgiveness wasn't seen as earned as intended) and other issues reading as bashing forgivenesses they don't like rather than why it came of as (too) easy. Some examples.
- Steven Universe: This was how the fandom saw the resolution to the original series with the Diamond Authority's "redemption". Most people expected Blue to be redeemed, but were critical on Yellow and especially White, as due to executive restraints, the pacing of the final few episodes made the ending resolution feel rushed. This is mitigated by the movie and sequel mini-series showing that just because Steven solved matters peacefully with the Diamonds doesn't mean he forgave them for their horrible actions and the three of them (mainly White) still hold a few of their toxic mindsets, but for many fans this was not nearly enough and they should have stayed villains to the end. Would be valid but doesn't explain what they did for those unfamiliar with the work. Also said movie was in production before fan complaints so not an after the fact fix, so if they weren't as easily forgiven as first implied is it not/no longer an example? (YMMV cannot be subverted or played with).
- Jedi Academy Trilogy: The New Republic decides to place the fate of Kyp Durron, who, under the influence of the ghost of the Sith Lord Exar Kun, had first assaulted his master Luke Skywalker, then stolen an Imperial superweapon and blown up an entire star system, in the hands of Luke himself. Luke chooses to forgive Kyp and welcome him back into the Jedi Order. This proved extremely controversial in the Star Wars Legends, fandom, which was reflected in later works: In the P.O.V. Sequel I, Jedi, Corran Horn rage quits the order over it, while a story in Tales from the New Republic portrayed Kyp as The Atoner. Other readers suspect that the New Republic considered the population of Carida to be Asshole Victims since it was an Imperial system whose governor had just attempted to assassinate Chief of State Mon Mothma with Grey Goo and then kidnap the infant Anakin Solo, and Kyp had subsequently helped win the books' final battle for the New Republic after Exar Kun was destroyed, so they weren't that inclined to prosecute him. Argues with itself noting there were those who though otherwise/mitigating context. If it explain why critics felt this wasn't enough, would it be redundant with UU?
- WandaVision: Many fans criticized Wanda for being this at the end of the series. With her having kidnapped an entire town and forcing them to play roles in her weird meltdown, including not letting some of them see their children. And after beating Agatha, Wanda suffers no consequences for MindRaping the people of Westview beyond being shunned by them and simply leaves to live a relatively peaceful life of solitude and self-discovery. Making her seem less like a grieving victim and more like an insane, sociopathic Karma Houdini who should've been thrown in prison or received some kind of punishment instead. Deleted this as she was not forgiven, Westview was noted justifiably still hated her. Even if EF was just getting off light (the TRS said it still requires in-universe forgiveness), this seem to be getting bashy. This is the kind of ill-faith edits being attracted.
- Detractors of Elsa in Frozen cited this trope as one of the criticisms levied against her. While it was already implausible enough for Anna to forgive her so easily after being shut out for so long, even more implausible is the fact that the entire citizens of Arendelle happily accepts her as their queen in spite of accidentally unleashing the Endless Winter that followed beforehand especially considering that unlike Anna who believed and eventually vindicated that she didn't mean to do so (and we the viewers know that she didn't even realize this until Anna pointed it out), they have no reason to believe that it was an accident (especially given how reclusive she was prior to her coronation) so the fact that they welcome someone who in their eyes, intentionally unleashed an Eternal Winter upon their land and abandoned them to their fates rubbed them the wrong way with fans citing this as another example as to why Elsa would have worked better if she actually freezes the kingdom on purpose. Notes it's just detractors. Character extreme popularity means it's likely not a widespread opinion.
- The Owl House: Even though Eda and Luz both make a point to not forgive Lilith straight away for her actions in the Season Finale with the latter doing her best to make amends, there are a number of fans who still think they let her off way too easily for cursing Eda, keeping her in the dark for 30 years and trying to forcibly abduct her into the Emperor's Coven as well as using Luz as a Human Shield in order to let her guard down with her redeeming actions being to help Luz save Eda and sharing the latter's curse not being enough to make up for it. Besides noting she wasn't forgiven until they did all this redeeming stuff and arguably not even then, doesn't explain why critics found it insufficient to redeem them as intended (UU needs that level of objectivity). This could be worked into a valid example, but comes of as Never Live It Down without the requirement (why fans exaggerate/ignore mitigating context) that keeps it from pure complaining/bashing.
I've asked the EG TRS
about coming of as redundant with UU, but it's coming along so slowly I feel the need to bring to attention what I find a disturbing amount of toxicity, lacking the constructiveness/objectiveness that makes other negative audience reaction item valid, for something that while contentious isn't supposed to be a inherently negative reaction, and seems overly complainy even if it was.
resolved Misclassified as American series
@SpongeBobFan2005 keeps adding Strawberry Shortcake: Berry in the Big City to AmericanSeries.Animation, even though BITBC is exclusively made in Canada. I tried explaining this to him multiple times, but he keeps adding it with the flimsy excuse of “it was put on Youtube/Netflix which are American”. I already let myself get dragged into an edit war with him and I’m not doing it again, so can someone tell me what to do about this?
Edited by BlueBlazes
Local Odd Squad Connoisseur
resolved Troper making repeated stub drafts
Uppity Elver 845 joined the site fairly recently (I believe on or around April 30th) but the only activity I have seen from them involves making and slightly tweaking a single edit
(which I sent a notifier for)
and making three
stub
drafts
, two of which are misplaced Trope Finder queries. Attempts to give them advice, such as "build up more of an edit history since you're new before posting on TLP again" and "see Trope Finder for inquiries about existing tropes", have fallen on deaf ears.
I'm aware they aren't a bot nor are they a ban-evader, but these being the only edits they've made in two weeks, and the fact that they aren't listening to advice on how to get familiarized with the site, have me concerned.
resolved More (seeming) ban evader socks
We just had a ban evader
have multiple socks bounced for mass deletions to Putting on the Reich, The Apunkalypse, and Post-Apunkalyptic Armor.
Found notreallyafan, created around the same time, same targets
(plus Those Wacky Nazis) and habit of deletions. Seems beyond coincidence.
If it's them, might it be worth checking more accounts who recently edited these and similar pages for potential ban evasion? Or do/can we only do that case by case?
And with three socks/this much effort to ban evade, I'm adding them to the ban evader watchlist unless anyone objects.
UPDATE: found 5 other potential socks with the same edit habits. (Not sure if any are already dealt with.)
Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaughtresolved Admission of Ban Evasion?
I was checking out the history of Characters.Wednesday Others for an unrelated concern when I found the edits by one Doldrum 27831... and more specifically, the part where they keep claiming to be banned user Kira 1980. I could be missing something because they've been around since 2016 and something feels off, so mods would probably need to verify, but... -shrug-
Edited by WarJay77resolved The Acolyte complaining. Live Action TV
It looks like there might be some mod guidance needed for the YMMV page
of The Acolyte , as there is Edit warring and some just plan complaining.
resolved kkj12345 = Canine99 and Superherofanatic1999?
As mentioned here
, a troper named Canine 99 was suspended for bashing people in the Choices: Stories You Play fandom. I have a suspicion that kkj12345 may be them ban evading. Both tropers frequently edit(ed) pages (more often than not, YMMV and Trivia pages) regarding Choices books, often with a negative tone, and they both have/had a tendency to add Fan Nicknames that only they used (and sometimes, they fell into "Detractor Nickname" territory, despite them not being allowed anymore). The former troper was suspended in 2019 (and apparently ban evaded once already
as Superherofanatic 1999 later the same year), while the latter troper began editing in Spring 2021. This page
(specifically, regarding the same Fan Nickname entry) all but confirms my suspicions.
resolved There are several edits by ethanm1 on the headscratcher page for a New Hope that seems written by AI Film
Example
Great question! The Death Star is powered by a powerful reactor located in the station's core. This reactor generates a massive amount of energy that is used to power a combination of propulsions systems, including repulsorlift engines, which allow the station to hover in the air or space, and sublight engines, which allow it to move through hyperspace. The Death Star also employs a special type of engine known as a hyperdrive, which is capable of moving the station across vast distances at faster-than-light speeds. This engine can be used to move the station between different star systems, and is what allows it to travel from one battle to another. However, it takes time to charge and power up the hyperdrive, which is why the Death Star is usually accompanied by a fleet of support ships, such as the imperial star destroyers, which can provide protection while it is charging its hyperdrive. Overall, the Death Star is a highly advanced and powerful vehicle that is designed to dominate the galaxy and instill fear in its enemies. The station's weapons, armor, and propulsion systems make it one of the most formidable craft in the galaxy, and its ability to travel from one system to another allows it to be a constant threat to any target, whether it's a rebel base, or simply an entire planet that it has been sent to destroy
Are the use of AI to answer headscratchers okay?

Back in 2021, a troper named donmcdonough was reported on ATT
for editing Match Sequence to add examples from non-existent pinball machines, which ended with him being banned.
Their edit history
also shows that many of their edits were on Tear Jerker subpages for cartoons. Among others, they made several edits to TearJerker.Sanjay And Craig and also adjusted the wording on one particular entry
on TearJerker.Hey Arnold The Jungle Movie (going from "they all start crying" to "they all bitch-cry because of death").
Just today, I noticed that theamazingdonovan207 not only has a similar username and started editing following donmcdonough's ban, but also frequents many of the same pages. Checking their edit history
, they tend to focus on Tear Jerker pages for cartoons (including editing TearJerker.Sanjay And Craig three times last December) and adjusted the same example
on TearJerker.Hey Arnold The Jungle Movie as before (this time altering "they all start crying" to "they all start crying horribly and realistically"). Most recently, they've edited Match Sequence several times, including adding examples from pinball games that don't exist
. (While some of their previous edits adding legitimate examples from real pinball tables, I can safely say that the Recess & Eddsworld entries are completely made up.)
Edited by BlueGuy