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resolved Confused by the FNaF WMG page Videogame
Hey sorry if this is the wrong place to put this.
Anyway, I have a WMG for the entirely of the Five Nights at Freddy's franchise, but there isn't really a series-wide section for the WM Gs like most franchise pages I've run across. It's broken into specific installments and there's an "unsorted" section but it's mostly just short blurbs and mine is pretty long. Also, I noticed there's a lot of guesses for the movie (since it was in production for like nine years) on other pages and I wasn't sure if I should move those to the page for the movie itself.
resolved Removal of the Image Pickin' Thread comment valid? Videogame
In Honkai: Star Rail, zero5889
removed a commented out message
in Boothill's character folder, which is meant to tell all editors to not remove or replace images approved by the Image Pickin' Thread.
Is this valid? Normally, those comments feel necessary so that users don't go and remove or replace images on their own without consulting the thread. I would add it back on my own, but I don't want to risk an edit war.
resolved Problems in PM. Videogame
A couple weeks ago Boondocks 96 posted a comment on this
couple years old review. I told him to stop and he replied in a rude manner.
For a little while we continued going in the replies of the review till we were told to stop. I did and move things to P Ms.
But now not only is he continuing being rude, but he also is accusing me of being the one that started it all.
I would like to have some help here. Who is wrong here? Was I as rude as he says I was? Or is he eaggerating things? Please some help.
resolved Possible plaigerism on Marvel Rivals? Videogame
The description text for Marvel Rivals looks suspiciously similar to that of the Wikipedia article
, and the text on the characters page looks like it was quoted more or less verbatim from the character profile dossiers.
resolved Nautilus cut page - okay to recreate? Videogame
The page for an Atari computer game named Nautilus is cut for the reason of being a stub. Is it okay to recreate the page if more information is given on the game?
resolved "Rage" Games Videogame
Toying with an idea for a TLP— "Rage Games", as I have heard them called before, include intentionally unrewarding Deconstruction Games like Getting Over It with Bennett Foddy. I'm thinking there's potential for a draft to include similar games like The Game Of Sisyphus and Only Up!. I know there's also a rock climber game where you only have control of your character's arms as you try to climb up just like Getting Over It.
If anyone knows of any more than these four, let me know. I am away this might be Too Rare To Trope, but I know there's potential here.
Edited by DRCEQresolved No Title Videogame
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Warhammer40000Mechanicus2018
I created this new page for Mechanicus(the video released in 2018) because I wanted to specifically refer to it as a video game of Warhammer 40,000 featuring the Adeptus Mechanicus. And it was also because the character page redirected to the tabletop character page https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/Warhammer40000Mechanicus
rather than a character page with tropes related to the video game characters only. So I created the new page and then I requested that https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Warhammer40000Mechanicus
be cut.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/Warhammer40000Mechanicus2018
And now all the examples for the new character page are all gone =(
resolved Poorly explained removal of Anti-Climax Boss from YMMV.Luigi's Mansion 3 Videogame
On Jan 18, 2020
, CookingCat added an example of King Boo to Luigi's Mansion 3 as an Anti-Climax Boss. They described the final boss as lackluster, having an unimpressive stage and moveset, and suffering from Fake Difficulty:
- Anti-Climax Boss: King Boo. The fight itself feels very lackluster compared to his fights in the original Luigi's Mansion and Dark Moon, and especially compared to the Boss Ghosts guarding the other character portraits, simply taking place on the roof of the hotel and having a very mediocre moveset, which especially hurts considering his presence in the early game. It doesn't help that the fight is known for it's clunkiness, Fake Difficulty and lack of polish compared to many of the others before it, especially the difficulty of launching the bombs in his mouth due to the targeting being off, the strange perspective and short period of vulnerability before he begins attacking again, and the final phase of the fight is timed, which, combined with the long length of his attacks and aforementioned short period of vulnerability, makes it easy to lose via the time running out before you even get a chance to attack him.
On Apr 1, 2020
, it was removed without any edit reason by Cman053. I was unaware of this prior edit history or CookingCat's original example.
A little more than a year later on Apr 20, 2021
, after having just finished the game myself, I re-added King Boo as an Anti-Climax Boss. While I never saw CookingCat's writeup, my own writeup incidentally echoed several of their criticisms, such as King Boo feeling lackluster in comparison to his previous fights in the series as well as earlier bosses within the same game; the fight's main "challenge" coming from trying to awkwardly aim a projectile; and spending much of the battle waiting for the boss to cycle through long attack patterns until he finally becomes vulnerable again. I also added the fact that it's a "Feed It a Bomb Three Times" boss battle that is an incredibly generic Nintendo boss formula not fitting a final boss, and the lack of a unique Game Over should the time limit run out (unlike, say, Metroid Dread) making it feel all the more anticlimactic in presentation:
- Anti-Climax Boss: After the challenging and puzzling but fairly enjoyable Hellen Gravely penultimate boss fight immediately beforehand, King Boo makes for a somewhat disappointing Final Boss. It's a fairly straightforward "Feed It a Bomb Three Times" boss battle that is more frustrating than challenging, stemming from the difficulty in aiming the bomb in King Boo's mouth. Even with King Boo spawning decoys and introducing harder attack patterns in each stage, it still ends up feeling repetitive as you're just waiting for King Boo to perform the same attacks until bombs spawn; unlike Dark Moon, there are no chase sequences to break up the battle and spice things up. Not even the time limit is enough to make it feel climactic, since there's no Non-Standard Game Over for letting time run out.
Additionally, King Boo was previously listed as an example of That One Boss by Drope. Since final bosses are exempt from That One Boss status and the example focused more on King Boo being frustrating and annoying instead of difficult, I moved that example to Goddamned Boss instead. It's still listed there as of now.
On Nov 17, 2023
, Fireball246 removed King Boo's Anti-Climax Boss example with the following edit reason: "Ignoring the fact that I’ve seen plenty of people who really liked the fight against King Boo in this game, a lot of these point feel like petty criticisms of being bad at the game rather than the boss itself being “poorly designed” or anything. This all comes across as extremely subjective and definitely doesn’t deserve to be officially labeled as an Anti-Climax Boss." But this edit reason doesn't make sense?
- "Ignoring the fact that I’ve seen plenty of people who really liked the fight against King Boo in this game..." With a quick Google search, I've also seen plenty of people who really disliked the fight. The fact that King Boo was previously listed as an Anti-Climax Boss by another editor, is currently listed as a Goddamned Boss (previously That One Boss), and isn't listed among the Best Boss Ever entries on the same YMMV page shows that other TV Tropes editors feel the same about this boss.
- "...a lot of these point feel like petty criticisms of being bad at the game..." I'm definitely not a "pro gamer", but I beat King Boo on my first try with plenty of health and time left. My criticisms of the boss have nothing to do with supposedly "being bad at the game". If anything, I thought the boss was too easy if you strip away the janky aiming and the long waiting periods (both of which are criticized by other players), which adds to the boss being anticlimactic.
- "...rather than the boss itself being “poorly designed” or anything..." Again, the example focuses on King Boo being generic, repetitive, and full of waiting instead of being unique, exciting, and challenging. These are criticisms of the boss design itself, not the player's skill level.
- "This all comes across as extremely subjective..." This is YMMV, of course it's subjective. As long as it isn't a minority opinion or just flat-out factually incorrect, it's fair game.
I sent Fireball246 a "deleting YMMV" notifier on Friday, but although they've clearly been active on TV Tropes this weekend, they haven't responded or acknowledged the PM. Since I was the last one to add the Anti-Climax Boss example, I can't undo their removal (or re-add the example with greater emphasis on "anticlimax" rather than "frustrating") without edit warring. Please advise.
resolved "Broken Base" removal for remake? Videogame
Was checking my followed pages and saw a Broken Base entry removed from YMMV.Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door since the remake just released on Switch and thus hasn't passed the six month threshold at this point... despite the entry in question being written exclusively about the original game which is nearly 20 years old. I restored it on that basis, but I do believe the other user could potentially have a point here, so I'd like to ask for second opinions here.
- Broken Base: The overall quality of Chapter 4 is heavily contested. While almost no one will defend the gameplay part, with all its back-and-forth between Twilight Town and the Creepy Steeple, there's the argument of whether or not everything else in the chapter makes up for it. People who like Chapter 4 point to the atmosphere and visuals being some of the best in the game (particularly Twilight Trail), Doopliss being a great villain who provides lots of laughs while also coming dangerously close to ending Mario's adventure, this being the part where the much-lauded Vivian joins your party, and the "end of chapter" twist being an effective Player Punch. On the other hand, detractors are quick to point out how a good story arc doesn't mean anything if the act of playing through it all isn't fun or engaging. All in all, while it's agreed the chapter excels at everything besides the gameplay, whether you think it's good or bad depends on what you consider more important to the experience.
resolved What does POTN mean? Videogame
I've seen this acronym used in several video game-related pages, and it never links to anything nor does it have any accompanying explanation. What does POTN mean/stand for?
resolved Is this walkthrough mode? Videogame
On The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie, I removed a Do Well, But Not Perfect entry since it read like Walkthrough Mode. When I sent a notif to the troper, they argued that it was valid. I tried to say it still read as walkthrough and I can't rewrite it without making it such. Do I'm asking if the entry is walkthrough mode.
- Do Well, But Not Perfect: The final battle against Ishmelga, aka Zoa Gilstein. If you target his precise weak point, The AI will always dodge and counterattack. The key to winning the battle is to just hit him in the "wrong" position, which won't stagger him but will still hurt him.
resolved Indentation edit-warring Videogame
On YMMV.The Legend Of Zelda I, Tailikku had added two entries, one of which was improperly indented and also began with word cruft ("Speaking of"). I fixed both issues and sent them a word cruft notifier... then they edited the example to reinstate the lone third-bullet asterisks for the second entry (they cited "fixing indentation [and] formatting" in the edit reason, but what they're doing is repeating an editing issue).
I'm writing this query to ask for permission to revert that improper bullet sorting once again.
Edited by MyFinalEditsresolved Is this proper? Videogame
I added something in the awesome moments in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, someone else modified it, then another person completely deleted the modification saying it wasn't "awesome". Err I get that the modification (which wasn't added by me btw) makes it sound less awesome then it actually is but.....was there any consensus in the Awesome cleanup forums before they did that? They explained their reasons but I find them doing that to be nitpicking.
Edited by NKgamerresolved Regarding forms of SpottingTheThread Videogame
If a spy unintentionally reveals their identity by knowing someone's name before it's been told to them, is that a case of I Never Told You My Name or I Never Said It Was Poison
resolved Is the mention of cisgender necessary? Videogame
On Trivia.Unicorn Overlord, troper thecouchwitch added a Cross-Cast Role entry (which I moved to Cross-Dressing Voices as the former trope is about live action roles) where they wrote this:
- Cross-Dressing Voices:
- The agender Skyler Davenport plays the cisgender woman Scarlett.
- Kdin Jenzen, a transgender woman, plays the cisgender male Lhinalagos.
While it is true that cis is the mostly likely identity these character identify as, it still kinda strikes me as unnecessary. However, I want to ask here to see if it is ok to remove it.
resolved Helldivers page needing split? Videogame
It's becoming increasingly obvious that Helldivers is suffering from extreme Sequel Displacement (even if not enough time has passed to list it as such), and since no one though to make a page for Helldivers II, it and all its related pages are getting clogged with references exclusively to the sequel. Is there any kind of policy about splitting pages that needs to be adhered to or is it a freebie?
resolved So, how can I add a Complete Monster list of Rockstar villains? Videogame
The Rockstar games has a lot of characters that are truly horrible, enough to fill the entire page. But I saw that the complete monster list are restricted in terms of editing. Is it the same with crating a new complete monster list?
Edited by Tabsresolved Morrigan Aensland is a villain Videogame
If the udon version of morrigan is the "most infamous example" of [1] then why does she kills humans in everything she appears, most people don't care or like that she kills humans because as i've seen them say "she is a succubus, that's what she does" and how did udon release a comic about her on 2022?

Ferot_Dreadnaught and I are disagreeing over what constitutes as a Weblinks Are Not Examples violation on the page Humans Advance Swiftly.
The following examples under Video Games don't have any Fanfic pages:
I used the percentage markup to hide the text, not delete it, pending someone creating a fanfic page for "First Contact" and "Transcendent Humanity" as they've done before with Mass Effect: End of Days. However, Ferot_Dreadnaught reverted the changes right back, insisting that "Weblinks Are Not Examples is when they just have a link instead of the context/explanation why they're examples. Those do explain the example even without the link so are valid." They've not replied to me asking for links to the appropriate fanfic pages.