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resolved Is Gondor Calls for Aid NRELP or not?
Gondor Calls for Aid appears on NoRealLife.Tropes D To G with the note "Too controversial, also attracted misuse."
However, it lacks an NRELP disclaimer in its description, and has a Real Life sub-page: GondorCallsForAid.Real Life, which seems to have been created back in 2012.
Is it, or isn't it, NRELP?
resolved Potential Edit War Western Animation
Hello, I recently added a fic rec to the Hazbin Hotel section and someone later came back and edited in a “YMMV” about the author, not commenting about the fic itself, making it unnecessary.
It comes off as petty and rude, not to mention false, so I removed it only for it to be added back in a little while later by the same user. I have sent a message to the user but I think a mod should get involved to stop an editing war.
The ones who added the “YMMV” edit back in is Keida.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=FanficRecs.HazbinHotel&page=7
Also I am fairly new to the site so please let me know if I need to provide more information or am putting this in the wrong section.
Thank you.
Edited by TuneGlowresolved How to fix a capitalization mistake in namespace?
I noticed today that the Heartwarming page for Out-of-Placers is at HeartWarming.Out Of Placers instead of the proper Heartwarming.Out Of Placers. This isn't a huge deal, but it does make the Sugar Wiki backdrop and cursive "Heartwarming Moments" font not appear. However, going to Heartwarming.Out Of Placers just takes you to the existing page. Any idea how to fix this?
resolved can i "trope my own stuff"?
I'll be blunt; I'm kinda bored right now, and I wanted to write a trope page (not a "public" one; it'd be on my own sandbox page) about my own YouTube channel. Is that allowed?
resolved Avoiding an edit war Web Original
On Recap.Battle For Dream Island S 2 E 15 Spore Day, I commented out
a Big Ball of Violence ZCE, only for Diamondeye 218 to uncomment it
. I don't want to start an edit war, and I have already tried PMing the other troper, but they didn't respond.
resolved Help with translated names Literature
Hey!
I am currently writing a work-page for the Tide Child Trilogy by RJ Barker, but I am struggling with the names, because I read the book in my mother tongue (german), which has some of the names translated.
What are the “gods” called? In german it´s Jungfrau, Mutter and Hexe, which could be translated to virgin or maid, mother and witch or hag. Is one of my guesses correct?
Sea-Beasts: Hakenwyrm – direct translation: hook worm/wyrm Schnabelwyrm – direct translation: beak/spout worm/wyrm (The sea-creatures who like to ride on bone-ship’s wakes) Rumpfbeißer – direct translation: hull biter Langdresch – direct translation: long … something (the gigantic white sea-creatures who like to play with teir prey) Zahngreifer – direct translation: tooth-grabber or tooth-snatcher (The tentacled beast with far too many mouths)
Ships: Tide Child – is the spelling correct or is it Tidechild? Knurrzahn – direct translation: Growl Tooth (Brekirs ship) Grausames Wasser – direct translation: Cruel Water (Arrins ship) Wellenbrecher – direct translation: Wave Breaker or Break Water (The Four Ribber sunk by the Tide Child after passing the strait.) Aufsteigender Sonnenfisch – direct translation: Rising Sunfish Seelaus – direct translation: Sea Louse Arakeesianische Furcht – direct translation: Arakeesian Fear Jungferngabe – direct translation Virgins Gift (The Brown Bone Meas seizes at the beginning of book 2) Schnabelwyrms Zorn – direct translation Beak/Spoutwyrms Wrath (The Four Ribber that chases Joron and gets sunk by his improvised netting.) Keyshanpike – direct translation Keyshanpike? (The Four Ribber that chases Joron and gets their crew lost by the sea-beast.) Wyrmschwester – direct translation Wyrm Sister (Barnts second ship that gets boarded by the Gullaime)
Ranks: What´s Dinyls rank called? Direct translation would be: Deck-Holder. What´s Aelerins profession called? Direct translation would be: Course-Layer. What´s Barleys profession called? Direct translation would be: Rudder-Turner.
Can anyone help out with at least a few of these? I would be very grateful.
resolved "No examples" notice in a non def-only trope.
The markup of The Firefly Effect has a commented-out line that reads "No examples here, please". The thing is, the trope is not listed in Definition-Only Pages. So... should I pay heed to the markup warning and not add examples? What do I do?
resolved Transfer edit history from old page to new Videogame
At the start of the year
I migrated the Yoko Taro creator page to it's current entry, as the original page had his name written in western order while he is notable as having exclusively gone by the eastern order in all English marketing. For some reason at the time I didn't migrate the YMMV
, Trivia
and Quotes
pages. I've done so now, can I get a moderator to move the edit histories over so I can then cutlist the old pages?
resolved Troper responding rudely to grammar notifier Western Animation
Ben Kenobi made an edit on The Simpsons with many grammar errors
, so I sent them a notifier. When they finally responded, I was initially confused before remembering the notifier. But when I told them what was wrong, they rudely brushed me off and told me never to message them again.
resolved How do I mark Main examples
I’m uploading a video example and listing tropes in said video but they all got listed as secondary. Is it supposed to do that?
Edited by Puttotheangel23resolved Back again with more garbage to dispose of...
A couple days ago I asked if anime films go in Anime & Manga or Films — Animated to answer the troper Seanette's PM question about why I'm moving examples from Studio Ghibli movies to Films — Animated, believing they belong in Anime & Manga. Another troper said they go in Films — Animated according to Media Categories FAQ, so I sent the page to Seanette. Seanette had moved an example from Ponyo that I moved back to Anime & Manga, and when they read my answer they replied to the effect of that they wanted to leave the example at Anime & Manga when it actually should have been in Films — Animated. Media Categories FAQ is an Administrivia page, which means Seanette may have been breaking the rules by not moving the example back.
Somebody please do something about this. I haven't moved the example back yet so as not to start an edit war, but I'm also not going to let my hard work moving the examples get bleeped up by someone who's willing to put their own opinion in front of where the example actually should go, especially if they're willing to move more than one example from those movies.
Thanks in advance.
P.S. If you see any anime films in Anime & Manga, do me a favor and move them to Films — Animated or whatever is the appropriate category.
Edited by SparkPlugTheTroperresolved Question about Auto Erotic Troping
I know that providing publicly inaccessible trivia about one's one work is forbidden. But what if trivia about one's own work can be found on other websites? Is that allowed? And is it allowed even if we were the ones to add that trivia to those websites?
resolved One big edit or multiple smaller edits?
Hi,
if I wanted to edit an article by adding new Information to it's introductary text & noticably reformatting the page (by adding folders and such), is it more appropiate to do both in one edit or seperate each action into their own edit?
resolved How Should I organize [[WebVideo/MagicTheNoah's Magic The Noah's]] individual videos? Web Original
Due to the massive amount of videos he
has put out, I believe that the best option is to make individual pages for each of them. My main question is is this the best option, and, if so, should it be as a series of Recap pages or as a series of normal Web Video pages?
resolved More Weird First-Person Comments?
In Pages Needing Wiki Magic, under the "Other subpages" folder, there's a note for almost every Fridge entry saying something along the lines of "Since I didn't know that media. But that Fridge subpage doesn't differentiate between [several subpage names]", often with that exact wording. Agent Jet added all of these notes not too long ago. What should I do with them?
Edited by ChillyBeanBAMresolved Entries removed from Tales Of Little Women
Anime.Tales Of Little Women had multiple items removed
by ~deerhornsaresopretty without edit reasons on all of them. Many ZCE entries were removed instead of commented out.
This needs to be restored, please. I've already sent a notifier.
(ETA update: no restoration needed.)
Edited by Nethiliaresolved Are these BB entries valid?
Originally posted on the BB thread.
These other examples from BrokenBase.Touken Ranbu are kinda shakey so I want to here what others think (the one about the fan reception was deleted):
- In July 2015, an update changed several charactersnote Izuminokami, Ookurikara, and Doudanuki from tachi to uchigatana. Naturally, fans were divided over this change, with some not really minding while others were unhappy, considering the change a big downgrade for the characters; however, their tachi-grade stats weren't nerfed, making them a strong uchigatana trio. Especially Izuminokami, who currently holds the position as the strongest uchigatana. unsure
- How the Revisionists are portrayed in and out of game counts. Some are fine with their monsterous characterization, since it brings more focus on the Saniwa's swords and leaves less room to root for the empire like what happened with the Abyssal Fleet in KanColle. Others argue that the Revisionists barely have character at all, and treating them as little more than cannon fodder takes away from exploring how the factions operate and the possible implications of how they came to be (See Fanon below). unsure (also has a "see below" mark)
- The announcement of the two anime adaptations had mixed reactions. Some people fear that the adaptations will not be very good (especially considering the low opinions many fans have of the KanColle anime), while others are happy about the prospect of their favorite swords getting animated. Another reason why a part of the fandom (mostly overseas fans) are against the adaptations is because they fear how the new Touken Ranbu fans will be. It was notable how they held the popularity of the franchise back, however, with two upcoming anime, chances are pretty high the bigger mass will discover Touken Ranbu. unsure
- Related to above, will the Saniwa (and by extension, what will the Saniwa's gender will be) appear in the anime or not has sparked debates, similar to the adaptation of KanColle. While the saniwa of Touken Ranbu - Hanamaru sparked some debate over whether or not they should have been depicted in full or just have another sword take the role (amusingly, similar to KanColle's own adaptation), Ufotable's version for Katsugeki/Touken Ranbu ended up in some wondering why the saniwa wasn't depicted as off screen like the Hanamaru one, why they looked like a little boy, and whether the decision to go for an androgynous look and not confirm either way instead of featuring the more popular interpretations of the character was an example of pandering, chickening out, a good idea, or something else entirely.
- While Kiwame has been well-received by most players as a way to upgrade the weak tantous to be useful on later maps, some are concerned by the changes in their lines that focus more on that Saniwa's attention and less on their own character tics. In a particular case, many fans of Imanotsurugi are reluctant to give him the Kiwame upgrade because it retcons a huge part of his character, and tragically so. unsure
- However, as later swords got remodels, it seems this trait is only reserved for tantous only. Justified, as tantous are supposed to be protection weapons. natter
- In the Western fanbase, there are quite a few vocal fans that openly question the morality of shipping the younger looking toudan, particularly the tantou, with the swords that are clearly intended to be adults, believing it to be disgusting despite the actual ages of the swords who in reality are well over centuries old; some of the younger looking sword boys are older than the characters that look like adults. There are fans that argue back that the age they appear to be is irrelevant due to the reasoning mentioned. The JP fanbase generally doesn't make a big deal out of this but that doesn't stop the debates from coming up. Valid but do think it might be better as Values Dissonance
- Now that the first seasons of the Anime adaptations have concluded, which one was superior? Touken Ranbu - Hanamaru or Katsugeki/Touken Ranbu? In Japan, it's made abundantly clear that Fans tend to prefer Hanamaru's adaptation over Katsugekinote and the dvd/bluray sales only hammer this home but in the west it's more divided. The below examples are arguing with themselves
- Some say Katsugeki was better because it supposedly had more of a plot, "relevant" character arcs, played up the oft-forgotten "protecting history" angle, and to some felt more like a Touken Ranbu anime in adapting the more dramatic aspects of the swords' backstoriesnote mainly only with the two leads Izuminokami and Mutsunokami, plus tritagonist Horikawa; the rest of the squad, despite being a part of the main cast, did not really get much development or arc focus and decry Hanamaru as "the Pixiv version" that makes the series look no different than any other Slice of Life series, and overexaggerates the characters and their arcs to match with fan perceptions (leading to events like Yamatonokami's controversial desicion to stop Okita from getting injured at the Ikeda-ya). Some also feel like the series crams too many characters in to make sure nobody feels left out, at the expense of the main pair's arc and development, up until the end.
- However, others argue that Katsugeki was a soulless bore of an adaptation whose only saving grace was it being visually impressive, and that it didn't live up to what it promised/was hyped up to be. In comparison, fans of Hanamaru say that this series felt like it was made for the fans, fun to watch, took an Ensemble Cast approach thus giving all fans more time to see their faves instead of staying focused on one (and to a VERY LESSER degree, two) sword group and was supposedly more faithful to the game and characterization; whereas Katsugeki took various liberties, particularly with their citadel's lore (the multiple Konnosukes in one citadel and being able to only send two swords at a time back in history at one point, in particular) and characterization/dynamics. People who prefer Hanamaru often refer to Katsugeki as a "Fate/stay night with a Touken Ranbu skin" anime and various other snarky nicknames involving that franchise due to their similarities in animation and other things ufotable lifted from their previous Fate adaptations.
- There are some fans who say they like both adaptations but lean more towards one, and those who say that both adaptations sucked or didn't like the heavy Shinsengumi focus on both series' leads (two Okita swords in Hanamaru, two Hijikata swords in Katsugeki) and their commonality of attempting to prevent their masters' most famous historical injuries. Some other fans tend to prefer the Stage play, Musical and Manga adaptations over both, while others just prefer the original game and fan created content.
- Lastly, there are fans who whole heartily liked both adaptations or felt that both adaptations fulfilled their purpose of what they were adapted to be like with Hanamaru being the Slice of Life anime it was promised to be and Katsugeki being the action oriented other half.
- The English translation of the game divided fans. For one thing, the website it was hosted on was largely known for ecchi and hentai games, so playing the game made certain fans uncomfortable, not only for the porn ads that would surround the game window, but for the sheer absurdity of such a tame game about men being hosted in such a place. For another, many fans took issue with the incredibly liberal translation, which often changed the characterisations of the boys, and contained many spelling and grammar errors. Some fans refuse to touch the English version thanks to all of these issues, while others think that the issues are minor and are just glad the game got an official translation at all. maybe valid
- The shipping of swords who are brothers can cause controversy, with one side claiming that it's incest and therefore immoral, and the other side countering that fiction has nothing to do with a writer or consumer's morality and therefore what a person ships doesn't matter. The issue gets muddied further by the nonhuman natures of the Toudan, and that what exactly makes a pair of swords "brothers" varies from character to character. Much like the tantou issue above, this argument is exclusive to the Western side of the fandom due to Values Dissonance. As squicky as it is, its is a fairly common talking point in a decent amount of fandoms so this is not a new issue
- Over the years, fans have become conflicted about the statuses of the Series Mascots (Mikazuki Munechika, Yamanbagiri Kunihiro, Kashuu Kiyomitsu, Kasen Kanesada, Hachisuka Koutetsu, and Mutsunokami Yoshiyuki) and how much emphasis the franchise places on them for what they assume is for no other reason than because they're the mascots: Unsure and violates the Examples Are Not Recent rule
- Dissatisfaction with Mikazuki's "special positions" has grown over time because of his frequent appearances in merchandise, attention from advertisers, assurance of an important role in every adaptation, appearance on the cover of anthologies, and other benefits. Also, unlike the five starter swords, he is not limited to being advertised as part of a group, meaning he is often promoted independently of the Sanjou, Tenka Goken, and, on occasion, the starter swords, leading to accusations of preferential treatment, especially over the other Tenka Goken who some believe he is treated as better than, despite there being no evidence of this in the story content that features the Tenka Goken.note While most works focus on Mikazuki Munechika due to his mascot status, every work treats the Tenka Goken group as a whole as special because of their status, even the original game itself. Others have argued back that Mikazuki showing up is justifiable and inevitable because of his status as one of the most recognizable characters and that his appearances don't take away from focus from other characters in the franchise, as he often isn't even the main character of the adaptations he appears in, with the exceptions being the live-action movies and Kabuki, due to the works either featuring an Ensemble Cast or focusing on some other character (ironically usually being some other overused Touken Danshi). There have also been some accusations of hypocrisy on the part of critics, as some other non-mascots like Tsurumaru Kuninaga and the Shinsengumi swords have shown up almost as often in merch and just as often in adaptations without facing the same heat that Mikazuki does because they aren't outright regarded as mascot characters.
- Yamanbagiri Kunihiro has also received criticism over the years, particularly following the announcement of the stage play's anime adaptation, due to his frequent appearance in adaptations, to the point where the only major adaptation he has not appeared in is Kabuki, making him more prominent than even the equally popular Kashuu Kiyomitsu. Like with Mikazuki, fans have argued about preferential treatment because of his popularity and a desire to see other swords promoted more, especially among the five starter swords, as, with the exception of Kashuu Kiyomitsu, the Mutsunokami, Kasen, and especially Hachisuka have made far fewer appearances and most of their advertising comes from being advertised as a part of the five starter swords group rather than because of their individual characters (Although Mutsunokami has been a little better off in recent years than to the introduction of the Jouishishi).
- Kashuu Kiyomitsu receives this as well, albeit to a somewhat lesser extent because he appears in less adaptations unless it somehow relates to the equally oversaturated Shinsengumi group (the first Touken Ranbu Musical being an exception). However, his Spotlight-Stealing Squad tendencies have been highlighted by fans who have watched the musicals (not helped by the fact that his actor is incredibly popular, not just the character, giving the production more reason to promote him over others), and the anthologies that are impossible to get through without at least three chapters that concentrate primarily on Kashuu and his Shinsengumi comrade. Fans of the other five starter swords have also pointed out just how long his Special Investigation event is compared to the other starter swords, leading to accusations of bias.
Any thoughts?
Edited by Ayumi-chanresolved Anime & Manga or Films -- Animated? Anime
I just received a private message from a troper stating that they think films in the Anime/ namespace should be in the Anime & Manga folders and pages, referring to me moving examples from Studio Ghibli movies like Spirited Away and Ponyo to Films — Animated folders/pages whenever I can. I have reason to believe that they belong in the Films — Animated category and that anything in the Anime & Manga page should be a series; are there any forums or anything else that can confirm this?
resolved Massive Cuts Without Sufficient Explanation on VideoGame.PokemonRanger
This edit
on VideoGame.Pokemon Ranger by ~Theriocephalus, done back in August, states it was done for "sorting" but doesnt show that and instead removes multiple entries that, while some were zero-context, were purged from the article completely and not hidden. Others removed appear to be legitimate entries.
There hasn't been many edits since then and they can be manually re-added. Can this be restored to how it was before it was purged?
ETA: It looks like the items were sorted by game, rather than removed, and everything is where it was. Never mind, I read the history incorrectly. Closing as unneeded.
Edited by Nethilia

On the show As Told by Ginger, there is edit warring when it comes to the Good Parents example for the character Jonas Foutley.
Objectively, the character Jonas Foutley has been in and out of his kids lives. He’s too neglectful to qualify for being a good parent. Despite me adding this reason many times, troper Spectacular Troper keeps on adding the example back.
EDIT: I shouldn't have put this on resolved. It was a mistake. I did so because I messaged the troper.
Edited by MsCC22