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openMetal Gear Rising Revengeance's Meme page Videogame
So, I think there is apparently the fact about the Memes page of Metal Gear. However, there seems to be also a separate Memes page of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, despite the fact that the former also happens to include Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance itself.
This includes some memes similar between the both or significantly different ones, and some that are not included in one page or the other.
My guess is probably it'll have to be merged (either in MGRR's own page and note in the main Metal Gear's page that a separate page exists for it, or cut the separate page and put them all in the franchise's meme page), but considering how much the meta went with the game itself rather than the entire franchise, I'm in favor of merging them all into giving Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance it's own separate page of memes from the rest of Metal Gear.
The page in question was first created in Jan 22nd 2023
, by GRD.
I need suggestions and opinions for further help. Thank you.
Edited by JustNormalMusicLoveropenSelf-citation on YMMV?
This is a very old incident that I only noticed by chance — while browsing YMMV.Dead Rising 2 (I've been replaying the series recently) I noticed a zero-context What Do You Mean, It's Not Political? entry that just reads "At least one fan's essay says it's very much so. Here." with the last word linking to a blog that I recognized as Tropers.Charles Phipps' from his occasional sharing of it on the forums. Out of curiosity I checked the edit history and sure enough, Charles added that entry himself in 2012. Is that kosher?
Edited by Dirtyblue929open UnintentionalUncannyValley misuse: not unintentional?
- Unintentional Uncanny Valley:
- In an intentional case, Geras is practically a walking Uncanny Valley, between having some part of his flesh held together with metal while others having perfect cracks in between, his voice being artificial sounding yet emotional, and coming back to life by unwinding himself perfectly, he is one of the most unsettling characters in the franchise.
- Frost invokes this, being a Cyborg who looks generally human enough that the specific ways her body moves, twists, turns, and separates will make you constantly go "HER BODY SHOULD NOT DO THAT". Her Friendship, in which, after skating on ice for a while, she starts spinning her entire body while her head is completely still makes her look surprisingly creepy.
If it was invoked/intentional it doesn't sound Unintentional, so is that misuse? There are many such examples that were just moved from Uncanny Valley when it was made In-Universe Examples Only.
Uncanny Valley TRS
voted to also allow intentional examples under Uncanny Valley. These fine to move?
- Unintentional Uncanny Valley: In designing and animating the E.M.M.I., the developers have somehow managed to apply this trope to non-humanoid robots. An E.M.M.I. essentially has a head, a "torso", and four long limbs, so you'd expect it to move more-or-less like an animal, right? Wrong. That thing bends its limbs and "spine" in all the wrong directions, performing unpredictable and anatomically impossible feats that even on a robot look just plain wrong. It looks less like what you'd expect of a robot and more like an unearthly Mechanical Abomination, making a foe that's already frightening enough in gameplay alone even scarier. Unlike most examples of Uncanny Valley, however, this one works in the E.M.M.I.s' favor, emphasizing how unnatural and dangerous they are.
Given E.M.M.I.s' were supposed to horrifying this was likely intentional. What to do? Can they be moved to Uncanny Valley as well?
open Not sure or not Web Original
Would Helluva Boss count as a Cosmic Horror Story, or at least Lovecraft Lite, because even in death someone who hates someone else can pay to have them killed in life and it's implied that Heaven may be just as bad as hell itself so any hopes of peace after death may not even exist.
Edited by coldcascadeopen (RESOLVED) nattery wall-o'-text on Sci-Fi Writers Have No Sense of Energy Literature
Half the Literature folder on SciFiWritersHave.No Sense Of Energy is currently comprised of a nattery, Example Indentation-noncompliant Wall of Text about the Incredible Cross-Sections firepower numbers controversy in Star Wars Legends (which admittedly I contributed to over a decade ago when I was young and stupid).
Fixing it would be a major change that I think probably could use some extra sets of eyes, but couldn't find a good cleanup thread for this to go in, so I figured I'd come here.
- In one of the Star Wars Legends technical manuals (now non-canon along with the rest of Star Wars Legends), a starfighter's main guns are about 1/200,000,000th the power of a capital ship's heavy guns, and yet starfighters still try to shoot at enemy capital ships like they can do more than annoy the enemy captain by obstructing his view out the bridge. The series that book belongs to throws out words like kilotons for starfighter weaponry, megatons for Slave-1's weaponry, hundreds of gigatons each shot for capital scale weaponry, and the latter being powered by reactors with the energy output of a star. All this for weapons which, for the films that they're detailing, display yields that rarely stack up to the more extreme episodes of MythBusters and are outdone by modern heavy cruise missiles. The light ion cannons the size of mortars on the Invisible Hand are supposedly throwing out as much heat as a 4.8 megaton thermonuclear bomb, which is strange when compared to the Hoth Ion cannon, a weapon that disabled an Imperial Star Destroyer in a handful of shots and yet didn't produce enough heat to melt the surrounding snow. In general, you could probably knock off about six orders of magnitude on anything written in those books and you'd still get way too much. Supposedly, these represent the maximum yields, but because nothing like these figures occur in the movies and there are multiple times when using even a percentage of these maximum yields would prevent ship-wide destruction, where do these numbers come from?
- In general, all of the Star Wars films basically depict combat as being World War II IN SPACE!. This extends to firepower. Fighter cannons can hit the ground a few meters from foot soldiers without harming them, while main gun batteries on capital ships seldom display effects beyond a few tons of TNT- which is roughly in line with World War II era battleship guns, albeit with a higher rate of fire and effective range. There's even a famous scene in Return of the Jedi where the kinetic energy (plus whatever explosives were still on-board) of a crashing kamikaze fighter was able to cripple a Star Destroyer by destroying its bridge, something that would be completely impossible if these things were routinely trading shots with ships capable of depopulating a planet with a single salvo. These numbers have been made even more ridiculous in hindsight by material that came out after the Disney buyout. For example, the Last Jedi art book depicts a strategic-scale (i.e. orders of magnitude more powerful than regular guns) plasma bomb carried by the Free Virgillia-class corvettes as being the size of a building... yet "only" having a 100 megaton yield (which makes these bombs, per area, less efficient than the Tsar Bomba). For reference, by Saxton's old numbers, any single Acclamator-class ship (which are the size of heavy cruisers) had 12 turbolaser cannons each capable of dishing out 200 gigatons per shot. So basically, a ship not much bigger than the Virigillia-class could dish out 2,400 gigatons or the equivalent of 24,000 strategic-scale plasma bombs, every second, continuously. Imagine that every ship in the U.S. Navy had an autocannon that shoots the equivalent of 24,000 nuclear missiles a second and you start to see how ridiculous this idea is.
- However, the author of these works, Dr. Curtis Saxton, is an astrophysicist and so by any right should have a very good understanding of the yields being described. Unfortunately, there is controversy surrounding the author's relationship with those in the online "versus debate" community, which, if true, would mean that the author didn't so much screw up the math as deliberately misrepresent it. Another scientist and Star Wars fan/contributor, Gary Sarli, analyzed Saxton's work and came to very different conclusions. Particularly one of Saxton's most influential calculations, which not only vastly overestimated how much damage needed to be done to fulfill a certain operation ("Base Delta Zero", glassing a planet, in other wordsnote A big part of Sarli's argument pointed out that the original description in the Imperial Sourcebook limited itself, relatively speaking, to wiping out the planet's assets of production, like factories, arable lands, mines, fisheries, and all sentient beings and droids, which, while on a planetary scale is definitely impressive, wouldn't necessarily mandate slagging literally everything on the surface or vaporizing the oceans unless the commander was in a particularly vindictive mood, nor would it have to do so by itself, in under an hour. For context, the entire world nuclear arsenal (more than enough to wipe out all major cities and industry) totals 1.5 gigatons. Ten times that number should easily be able to kill nearly every human on Earth. Melting off all the Earth's crust and vaporizing all its oceans, on the other hand?
7 exatons or 7,000,000,000 gigatons.).
- And on the third hand, proponents of the ICS numbers point out that they are several orders of magnitude less than what you'd get simply by down-scaling from the Death Star, which has been calculated from screen evidencehow? Measure how long it took the planet to double in diameter after being shot (0.83 seconds), and do the math assuming Alderaan has the same properties as Earth. For the math, see these
links
. to produce a minimum of 1E38 joules, roughly the energy that the Sun produces in eight thousand years when firing a planet-busting shot. That puts the Empire well into Type II on the Kardashev scale. By the same token, there are those who think that Saxton did the above calculations and then gave their shipboard weapons numbers that he would have expected a Type II civilization to have. Of course, both the EU and the new Disney continuity specified that the Death Star's power came from Kyber crystals, making its showing completely irrelevant to anything that doesn't also use Kyber crystals.
- And critics will counter that there are a lot of weird effects for that to be purely a brute-force weapon, like the existence of a two-stage explosion and a Planar Shockwave. And since the Death Star novel came out, they've either retconned or clarified that the superlaser uses an exotic reaction that causes large parts of the planet to shift into hyperspace (presumably in a violent manner, since vessels with hyperdrives can do so without exploding), causing the planet to blow itself up.
- (separate unrelated example about Vulture droids I added yesterday)
- Star Wars Legends:
- The Incredible Cross-Sections reference books for the Star Wars prequel trilogy, written by physicist Dr. Curtis Saxton, became quite controversial for giving energy numbers that to some readers appeared to be wildly out of scale with the film special effects: for example, maximum yields of 200 gigatons on the turbolasers of Acclamator-class troop transports (Attack of the Clones) and 10 teratons for Venator-class star destroyers (Revenge of the Sith). Saxton was even accused at times of making up inflated numbers to help Star Wars "win" the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny with Star Trek (he was a participant in sci-fi debating groups on the Internet at the time the books came out). Other debaters argued that some of his calculations were rooted in faulty assumptions, for example that the Orbital Bombardment involved in a Base Delta Zero operation wasn't intended to be at the Earth-Shattering Kaboom level a la Exterminatus, but just to destroy population centers and military sites. The argument was ultimately rendered moot when the Legends continuity was ended.
- (unrelated Vulture droid example)
- The Incredible Cross-Sections reference books for the Star Wars prequel trilogy, written by physicist Dr. Curtis Saxton, became quite controversial for giving energy numbers that to some readers appeared to be wildly out of scale with the film special effects: for example, maximum yields of 200 gigatons on the turbolasers of Acclamator-class troop transports (Attack of the Clones) and 10 teratons for Venator-class star destroyers (Revenge of the Sith); the latter number is about 10% of the estimated yield of the Chicxulub meteorite impact. Saxton has shown where his calculations came from: primarily the Death Star's destruction of Alderaan, the concept of Base Delta Zero from West End Games' Imperial Sourcebook, and shots from The Empire Strikes Back of star destroyers blowing up asteroids said to be nickel-iron in Alan Dean Foster's novelization; however, other debaters such as Gary Sarli have questioned some of his underlying assumptions. The whole thing was ultimately rendered moot after Legends was decanonized, with the efficacy of Orbital Bombardment in particular dramatically scaled down in Disney canon reference books.
Third draft:
- The Incredible Cross-Sections reference books for the Star Wars prequel trilogy, written by physicist Dr. Curtis Saxton, became quite controversial for giving energy numbers that to some readers appeared to significantly inflated compared to the film special effects: for example, maximum yields of 200 gigatons on the turbolasers of Acclamator-class troop transports (Attack of the Clones) and 10 teratons for Venator-class star destroyers (Revenge of the Sith); for reference, the latter number is about 10% of the estimated yield of the Chicxulub meteorite impact
. Saxton has shown where his calculations came from;note primarily the Death Star's destruction of Alderaan, the concept of Base Delta Zero from West End Games' Imperial Sourcebook, and shots from The Empire Strikes Back of star destroyers blowing up asteroids said to be nickel-iron in Alan Dean Foster's novelization however, other debaters such as Gary Sarli have questioned some of his underlying assumptions.note e.g. whether "Base Delta Zero" involves glassing an entire planet For the Evulz or just destroying mission-critical population centers Due to his author's notes thanking various members of online "versus debating" communities, Saxton has also been accused of deliberately inflating his numbers to "win" arguments over whether Star Wars factions would beat Star Trek factions in a war.
- The Incredible Cross-Sections reference books for the Star Wars prequel trilogy, written by physicist Dr. Curtis Saxton, became quite controversial for giving energy numbers that to some readers appeared to significantly inflated compared to the film special effects: for example, maximum yields of 200 gigatons on the turbolasers of Acclamator-class troop transports (Attack of the Clones) and 10 teratons for Venator-class star destroyers (Revenge of the Sith); for reference, the latter number is about 10% of the estimated yield of the Chicxulub meteorite impact
openEnsemble Darkhorse move undid
- Clodsire is adored by the fanbase. Quagsire was already an Ensemble Dark Horse due to its blank, derpy yet charming looks. Clodsire's more blob-ness with it being quadrupedal like a dog made it arguably more appealing and huggable to fans. Animations like this
only further highlighted how adorable it really is.
Per Darkhorse cleanup
I moved this to Quagsire's ED entry as Clodsire was likely made in response/to bank off Quagsire's popularity as opposed to Clodsire's being unintentional, so it's part of the Quag's Darkhorse status as opposed to counting as one itself.
It was moved back to it's own entry, by a separate troper from who first added it, citing "There is no evidence to suggest that Clodsire's creation is a result of Quagsire's popularity as there have been plenty of non-Ensemble Dark Horse pokemon with regional variants that have received new evolutions (such as Corsola, Farfetch'd, Mr Mime, Basculin and Qwilfish)." I don't disagree, it would fit that Clodsire not being revealed prerelease, but this gets into the issue of speculating creator knowledge/intent.
Before taking to ED cleanup, I'm asking if it should be re-moved as that's what the cleanup decided so undoing what they voted on without discussion violates rules.
open Justifying edit on recent Unintentionally Unsympathetic edit
A while back, a troper argued that Atreus fell under the Unintentionally Unsympathetic trope in God of War Ragnarök. Recent add-ons to the edit seem to point to the idea that what is being described may not in fact be unintentional on the developer's part.
For further context:
- The lesson Kratos learns about trusting his son (and others) was very much needed for him to grow into the man he is by the end of the game. But for most of the story, Atreus is nothing but untrustworthy. He went behind his father's back to study Loki, continues to do so after coming clean and after unintentionally disappearing to Jotunheim for two days, all while refusing to elaborate on where he's been — even if Atreus was trying to protect Angrboda and Ironwood at her request by keeping his movements secret. The whole time, Atreus demands his father trust him in spite of the fact that Atreus has done nothing but lie and hide his intentions. The rest of the adults even agree with Kratos and rightfully call out Atreus for thinking he could fix everything all by himself. In the end, it's played realistically: Atreus lampshades himself that Kratos' lack of trust is entirely justified, but he's emotionally unequipped to resolve it.
Should the edit be removed?
Edited by WiryAiluropodineopenPoupelle of Chimney Town by Akihiro Nishino
The history of Poupelle of Chimney Town by Akihiro Nishino is complex. Here I only outline the primary development of the franchise:
- 2011: Nishino conceived Poupelle of Chimney Town as a film.
- 2012: Nishino and Akira Ishida did a live comedic performance
in Sanrio Puroland based on the story. Nishino finished writing the story.
- 2016: Nishino wrote and illustrated a picture book (fully available in both Japanese
and English
for free) to advertise the film. Nishino himself says the book omits four-fifths of the film
.
- 2020: The film was released, animated by Studio 4°C.
- 2022: Shout! Factory licensed the film for home video in North America.
Should we use the Literature/ or Anime/ namespaces for Poupelle of Chimney Town?
Edited by IukaSylvieopen Can we put some of our unused/discouraged practices of TV Tropes in Discredited Meme?
We've evolved for quite awhile. I still remember back then when TV Tropes still has A LOT of phrases accompanying either Tear Jerker or Heartwarming Moments: "If you do not tear up on this scene, then you're a horrible, heartless human being without a soul."
But of course, right now, we are not allowed to do it anymore. For good reasons and I agree with the sentiments of disallowance.
Still, here's a question... Is that an example of Discredited Meme? I thought the "have no soul" thing back then was quite widespread that it's a TV Tropes-ish meme. Now that it's extremely discouraged, does it look like an example of the trope Discredited Meme? Is it OK to add that in the page or I shouldn't?
Thank you very much. I would try to add that myself, but just so I don't step into a landmine, I might as well ask here first. Pretty sure there are other 'formerly OK, now discouraged' practices, but I'll just use that as an example first.
Edited by ChrisXopenProblem Making Troper Page
I'm trying to make a Troper page for myself, but because my name has an _ in it, the wiki shows an error message and doesn't have the Edit Page button. Since the name of the Troper page is what ties it to the edit history and PM buttons, I can't do a version without the _ or with a space because it won't link to me.
What are my options?
open Should Suletta and Ericht be listed as separate characters or as one?
Hello, Twisted Wanderland here, but please, call me “The Wanderer”. Why? Because it sounds cooler.
As for why I’m on here, last night I joined a discussion on the Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch from Mercury character page about whether the main character, Suletta and the character from the prologue, Ericht, should be considered the same character or not: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Characters.MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury&id=140666#140666
Another user, Kuruni, thinks they should be treated as separate characters, but when asked why, they said that there’s no official source stating that they are, even though the same could be argued for there is no official source stating they aren’t. I’ve tried asking them if they had any evidence as to how Suletta isn’t Ericht after the timeskip between the prologue and the first episode, but they claim that Ericht being in the prologue is reason enough to count them as separate and that it’d be more convenient if they are separate, despite pointing out how if they are the same then it’d be counterproductive to go through Suletta’s examples and add in Ericht’s. This also seems to be a unilateral decision because I searched Ask The Tropers and Trope Talk to see if there was a discussion involved with this, but only found a self-report from them for edit warring with another user over this and when they keep skirting around the question whenever I ask for evidence to support their claim.
At this point, we’re just going back and forth with no resolution in sight, which brings me here to get a consensus on whether Suletta and Ericht should be considered the same character or not. I know that theories are going around on how Suletta may be a clone and that the real Ericht is Aerial herself but with nothing conclusive, saying they aren’t the same is purely speculation.
If an agreement can’t be made, then I may have an alternative solution: we treat Suletta and Ericht as the same character, but separate examples exclusive to Suletta from the series and Ericht from the prologue.
openMythological Figures and Character Rerailment in Adaptations
I noticed that Character Rerailment, a YMMV trope, was in Mr. Wednesday/Odin's folder on the Character page for American Gods. Normally, I would have just moved it to the YMMV page, but since it's about how the novel chooses to adapt a mythological figure, I decided to ask for advice on whether or not that would indeed be the right course of action.
The entry was as follows:
- Character Rerailment: Post-Eddas, Odin has been mostly portrayed as a Grandpa God. Here, he has the more chaotic and selfish personality of older mythology.
openMedium question for an example. Videogame
I want to add this example to either Multi-Disc Work or its Video Games subpage. However, I'm not sure whether it could fall under "Music" (which is on a folder in the trope's main page) or "Video Games", since while the source work is a video game, the disc work in itself is a soundtrack release (which is quite common for popular video games).
- Hotline Miami:
- In 2017, game publisher Devolver Digital and record label Laced Records teamed up to release a pair of official albums for the soundtracks of the first and second games (respectively) on vinyl, with each album consisting of three LPs and featuring original artwork from El Huervo, one of the soundtracks' artists.
- The 2022 reissue album made for the first game's tenth anniversary has eight LPs (two more than the first two albums combined) alongside Feelies like a disc slipmat, art prints and stickers.
Should I put on "Music", "Video Games" or the "Other" folder?
Edited by Inky100openDo I need permission to declare a trope as Discredited/Dead Horse/etc...?
As the title says. For example, Interchangeable Asian Cultures seems to me to fit pretty well the definition of Discredited Trope, but it's not called as such in the description itself, nor is it indexed in Discredited Trope, Dead Horse Trope, etc... I'd be inclined to put it there with an explanation, but I'm not sure if I need to gather consensus before or I'm good to go.
open Issue trying to create a work page
I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask this question.
I'm trying to create a work page for The Magical Revolution Of The Reincarnated Princess And The Genius Young Lady. When I was working on an initial draft, the lock clock timed out and I got a warning when I tried to save my changes of someone apparently also editing the page. I saved the text that I had written and canceled editing the page.
When I canceled editing, I didn't see a lock sign indicating someone else was editing the page, so I tried going back in and was presented with the text box again. I tried copy-pasting my original text in and saving the changes, but the changes weren't saved and the work page remains uncreated. I made a second attempt later on and still got the same result.
The odd thing is that if you look at my edit history, you can see that I have two edits to that particular work page. However, going to the work page itself shows nothing in the history. I don't want to risk screwing up anything, so I'm asking here if someone knows what might be causing the issue.
open CircularRedirect is Self-Demonstrating
not Administrivia.Circular Redirect, but the main Circular Redirect page is, well, a circular redirect. according to the history, it was made such by mod fiat going back to 2012. it says it's "to demonstrate what happens", but... do we really need that? the Administrivia page explains what happens, and someone forgetting to properly namespace the link would lead people to get the redirect error without the context of it. i don't think we need a page on the wiki that intentionally induces a browser error, demonstrative or not.
openTo-Do-List venue/forum for images that need replacements
Basically, you find a page image that doesn't look good for some reason, and would like to point out that it needs replacement, but you don't currently have the time to upload the best replacement, so you bring it up somewhere for others to fix... Is there a place for that scenario, a.k.a. a forum-based to-do-list for images?
... Or I might as well bring up the image in question here, from SIE Santa Monica Studio:

The company logo is fine in the site's Night Vision mode, but you cannot read the text in normal/light mode in the Creator page itself because the font color blends with the gray background color. Shouldn't this have a black background instead for consistency?
Edited by DanteVinopenAss Pull on Jojo Part 6 ymmv Anime
There has been one user argumenting the use of this on the ymmv page of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stone Ocean, where they provided arguments for how the plot points that were put on asspull made sense, but later reverted them back because of ymmv.
I find myself confused, cause the points that the user rises sound compelling enough to warrant a removal from them, but idk if most users are willing to agree.
openMetagaming tropes in CCG pages Videogame
Hi, everyone.
Just today I was taking a glance at the Marvel Snap page, and an issue that has frequently popped up in my searches through this site's CCG pages came to my attention.
Metagaming tropes (or using tropes for metagaming). Now, I'm personally a person that loves playing meta decks and the aspect of competition, but I have always felt that this kind of entries doesn't belong in most main work pages (barring stuff like Smogon which main point is the competitive aspect). After a few months working on the Character pages for Yu-Gi-Oh, I found out that these tropes led themselves to constant shoehorning, general examples (like putting Achilles' Heel for every kind of a weakness a deck has) and overly specific entries that are more akin to walkthrough mode. To not mention the fact that the metagame constantly evolves, which means that the entries suffer from a lot from Examples Are Not Recent syndrome, and a few years down the line the entries become outdated.
Inserting a few examples to prove my point (from Hearthstone, the Marvel Snap page itself, and then Yu-Gi-Oh).
- Attack! Attack! Attack!: The general strategy of an aggro deck or a rush deck is to hit the enemy hero relentlessly with charge minions and spells, pausing only to get rid of any Taunt minions that get in the way. The Hunter is particularly good at this, as his hero power lets him keep shooting the enemy hero for 2 damage and can't be mitigated by taunts. The Warlock Zoo Deck is pretty much this taken to the extreme: it consist mostly of cheap creatures, small buffs, and a lot of burst damage. Abusing the Warlock card draw hero power, this deck usually forgoes all non-essential board control and just seeks to absolutely steamroll opponents with tons of small, annoying, efficient minions and burst damage before they can control the board, stabilize and restore Health.
- Exaggerated by the popular (and also much-despised) 'Face Hunter' deck, a deck so mindlessly aggressive (even Zoo Warlock uses its rush advantage to secure board control) that a bot could play it and is regularly able to secure a turn 5 or 6 kill by simply ignoring EVEYRTHING except the opponent. EVERYTHING GOES TO THE FACE!
- Difficult, but Awesome: As explained under All or Nothing, Galactus is normally a very risky card to play, given that he downsizes the game to a single location and he only brings a Power of 3 to win said location. However, if you can get extra Energy (from Psilocke, Electro or locations) and play Galactus early, on a location where your opponent is weaker, you can dominate the game by playing strong cards in subsequent turns. This is still a pretty risky move, since your opponent can have stronger cards in their hands, but it can also totally surprise them. Not to mention, you get to see Galactus' world-destroying animation, which is pure Awesome.
- Achilles' Heel: Some cards have deliberate weaknesses to keep things interesting and keep them from becoming too powerful:
- The Earthbound Immortals
are all very strong, unable to be attacked, and can attack the opponent directly. But, they automatically destroy themselves if there's no Field Spell card on the field. Also, there can only be one Earthbound Immortal on the field.
- Cloudians
must remain in Attack Position or they will destroy themselves.
- In the metagame, this trope is present through deck match-ups and side decking. The most prominent example of this trope the in the competitive scene are, perhaps, the Dark World cards— A deck that is extremely fast, powerful, and can utterly wreck the first duel of the match. However, after said first duel, side in Consecrated Light
or Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror
and watch as they struggle against it.
- Pendulum Summoning is a very powerful summoning type, allowing you to summon multiple high-level monsters at once. However, Pendulum Cards can easily be gotten rid of with backrow removal cards like Twin Twisters and Cosmic Cyclone, cards that nearly every deck runs in some capacity. In addition, cards that immediately destroy or negate summons, such as Bottomless Trap Hole and Solemn Warning, shut it down hard as, thanks to the wording, it destroys/negates all the monsters summoned this way, since they were treated as one summon, which results in you losing a lot of your best cards in a single move as a result. Also, Pendulum Monsters whose Summons got negated and destroyed this way go to the Graveyard instead of back into the Extra Deck so they cannot be easily reclaimed.
- Any archetype that relies on specific spell cards (Gishki, Shaddoll, Masked HEROs, just to name a few) will struggle if said spell is negated by Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell
.
- The Earthbound Immortals
I bring this up because pages like Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft have a massive number of metagaming entries, and I would like to open up this issue to debate for the community. To know if it's actually perceived as a problem or I'm just overblowing this situation.
Edited by Edgar81539

A while ago, I added an example of Unintentionally Unsympathetic to YMMV.Story Booth (a Web Animation show where people tell stories that supposedly really happened to them). This addition was based on comments that I saw many people make about that video. The example has since been removed, with the edit reason saying that "This is a real-life story, so this trope doesn't count."
I was under the impression that even if a trope is on No Real Life Examples, Please!, it can still be added to works inspired by real life, so long as it sticks to being about what's shown in the work itself. Otherwise, this would mean that documentaries and reality shows wouldn't be allowed to have these tropes listed.
If the deletion was justified, the page also lists Moral Event Horizon and The Woobie, which are also NRLEP, but which weren't removed by the editor who cut the UU example I added.