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openYMMV deletions.
Troper PickleRick2017 deleted the following from YMMV.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic S 7 E 26 Shadow Play Part 2 without explanation:
- Memetic Loser: The Pony of Shadows has started getting this due to his Anti-Climax Boss and They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character statuses. In fact, a lot of fans even believe that between him and The Storm King (another recent "winner" of this "award"), the latter was the more-effective Big Bad note For at least being able to pull off a Near-Villain Victory and having Tempest Shadow as an effective Heavy. Not to mention being more genuinly entertaining.!
- The Scrappy: The Pony of Shadows is largely seen as the weakest part of this finale. While his Anti-Climax Boss and They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character statuses are disappointing enough for many fans, it doesn't help that some also see him as a lazy Suspiciously Similar Substitute for Nightmare Moon's shtick from all the way back in the Season 1 premiere. This is subverted with Stygian himself; he's actually well-received.
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: The synopsis saying that The Pony of Shadows was going to be the main villain seemed to address this complaint from "Castle Mane-ia". However, he's revealed to have been trapped in Limbo during that episode, so the entity from The Stinger couldn't have been him (it was more likely Tirek, since he is introduced wearing the exact same cloak discarded from Pinkie Pie in the castle). Likewise, he's completely unrelated to Nightmare Moon, despite the Urban Legend associated with him. Beyond that, the Pony of Shadows simply doesn't do a lot. Despite him constantly being described as incredibly powerful, he spends most of the two-parter in a severely weakened state and doesn't do much beyond destroying Star Swirl's journal and blasting the heroes with dark energy. Also, unlike King Sombra from the Season 3 premiere, he doesn't even have any Crazy-Prepared countermeasures to make up for his lack of direct action.
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot:
- Though Nightmare Moon is mentioned in passing when the Mane Six go over their various accolades with the Pillars, no mention is ever made that Nightmare Moon was once Princess Luna, even though there are clear parallels between her and the Pony of Shadows.
- The Pony of Shadows turns out to be hiding in Hollow Shades... why not have its lair be in the Castle of the Two Sisters, to tie back into "Castle-Mania" and allow a chance to explain how/if it is connected to Nightmare Moon?
- The cast specifically notes that Star Swirl knew about travel between worlds, but makes no mention of Equestria Girls or the magic mirror. If anything, the episode goes out of its way to avoid referencing the mirror, instead mentioning Starlight's time travel portal and then immediately noting it isn't the same thing as dimensional travel. This is in spite of the episode showing the Sirens from Rainbow Rocks in the Pillars' flashback; there clearly wasn't an issue with referencing the films that way, which makes the lack of mention of the mirror all the more glaring.
- While many like getting the Elements back, others are upset the Rainbow Power aren't mentioned in the slightest, as in the first potential usage of them since they were used to beat Tirek, they're just re-replaced with the Elements.
- The ritual Stygian was performing, where he attempted to use the relics of the Pillars to gain similar powers to them, is similar to how Twilight became an alicorn by harnessing the power of the Elements of Harmony via Starswirl's unfinished spell. Furthermore, in his Pony of Shadows form, Stygian becomes a dark alicorn. However, this is completely unremarked upon, and any potential connection between Stygian's ritual and Star Swirl's spell is up to fan speculation.
- On that topic, despite Star Swirl's unfinished spell apparently being his life's work, and Twilight finishing it was so monumental a feat it earned her a royal title, that she finished his spell is only glossed over briefly in dialogue and Star Swirl doesn't even seem to think it's a big deal.
- WTH, Casting Agency?: Some feel that Murry Peeters's performance as Somnambula is too deep-voiced and serious in contrast to the character's Moe appearance and Hope Bringer personality.
I PM'd them about Deleting The Scrappy but haven't heard back. I added it back since policy is not to cut YMMV unless you give a reason. Anything else?
I asked the Scrappy Cleanup before and after this if the Pony of Shadows counted a, but it was ignored. Should the be removed if no-one apparently feels this strongly?
openEvil Overlord List usage for heroes
I was looking at the Evil Overlord List, and was wondering if there was any way that it could be used by the heroes as well?note With some cautious reinterpretation of course, I'm trying to defend against an evil overlord, not become one myself. If not, is there some other page that could serve a similar purpose?
openGanon Self Demonstration
I'm gonna recreate this page, and wanna know why it was deleted or if it's a good idea to rebuild it. I kinda wanna know what it'd look like. -iJosh64
Edited by ShroomwoodopenListable examples of Self-Imposed Challenge Videogame
So when it comes to things like Game Mod, Let's Play, and the various types of fanfic, we don't trope audience responses on a work's main page.
So for Self-Imposed Challenge, what kind of examples would be valid to list on a main page? Because I'm seeing stuff like "have you tried winning under various arbitrary restrictions" on Fortnite, or "some players try beating the Bonus Boss while affected by a glitch that speeds up the game" on Deltarune.
openRename CamWhore?
I'm not sure where on the forums this question goes, and the discussion on the trope page itself doesn't seem to be getting any attention, so... I think Cam Whore should be renamed to "Cam Girl" (possibly with "Cam Boy" as a redirect). The use of the word "whore" is unnecessarily harsh and demeaning to those in sex work, has automatically negative connotations that aren't a requirement for the trope, and "cam girl" is a more common term, anyway.
open Captain Marvel's YMMV
Who ever deleted this page needs to cool off.
Movie isn't out yet and the page is attracting as much controversy and stupidity as the film itself. Leave off until the damn thing is released.
openMemetic Sex God cleanup
Memetic Sex God is being cleaned up. I'm not about the following:
- Clark Baxtresser: Along with his best friend and bandmate Pierce Siebers, who with him forms the two-man act TalkFine, Baxtresser has more or less stepped into Darren Criss' vacant role as Starkid's musical mastermind. Played keyboard for Me and My Dick, A Very Potter Sequel and Starship. Stepped up for the SPACE Tour and Apocalyptour to create concert arrangements for the songs in Starkid's catalogue — in most cases having to transcribe the songs by hand because no sheet music from the original productions survived. Promoted to musical director and co-wrote the music and lyrics for A Very Potter Senior Year, and sings in Darren Criss' place as Harry Potter for the soundtrack. Co-wrote and performed lead vocals for all the music for Ani. Was musical director and band leader for Ani, The Trail to Oregon! and Firebringer, which also had his first onstage cameo As Himself. Has become a Memetic Sex God among Starkid fans, with Meredith Stepien and Lauren Lopez both saying he's objectively the most "supermegafoxyawesomehot" member of the team.
- Taiyang Xiao Long being a Memetic Sex God. Explanation After the team Taiyang was in entered into people's minds more frequently with a picture of them in the Volume 3 opening, people began to have more fun with the fact he's been married and had a daughter with each of the women in his team. A common joke goes that Taiyang's Semblance is impregnating every woman he meets.
- In reverse, it's not uncommon to see jokes about Qrow being such a jerk because he can't get laid, as presumably he's the only one on his team whom Taiyang never slept with.
- ENTIRE. TEAM. Explanation After the photo of Team STRQ was revealed, an edit from
◊ RWBYRecaps began circulating where Taiyang says he's going to impregnate his entire team and Qrow tries clarifying that he's there too. Taiyang's response is where this meme comes from.
- ENTIRE. WORLD. Explanation Fans have deemed Jaune as Taiyang's successor in his Entire Team crusade after the finale puts them under similar lights. As a successor, it is now Jaune's duty to go beyond his team, add the fact that fans enjoy shipping Jaune with every female of the series and you get this meme.
- Approval of God: The author's mentor couldn't have felt any more honored to have Takeru modeled after him, primarily because of both the fact Takeru is a character that the author always had a preference for, and the fact the author's mentor is glad to see how his prodigy is using his newly taught knowledge on writing to his advantage with Takeru's portrayal as a Memetic Sex God in-universe and as an Intended Audience Reaction.
What do I do with those examples?
open the site has degraded completely for me
when i go on to tv tropes now it reduces itself to a late 90s mid 2000s format of nothing but a white background. the site is impossible to use now, and if anyone could help me fix this, please
openDid this ever exist?
I thought we had a cleanup thread on the forums for Self Demonstrating Articles in general, besides the specific ones for character pages and folder titles - but searching can't find any trace of it. Did this ever exist, and if not, would it be a good idea to create one?
openUndertale/ProtagonistCenteredMorality
Seiren included the following to the Protagonist-Centered Morality example to Undertale in Protagonist-Centered Morality:
"When you realize the monsters are meant to be the protagonists, however, this trope comes into full effect. If the player kills any of the monsters, even if in self-defense against monster who are explicitly trying to kill them, it is treated as an irredeemable act; meanwhile, monsters who have killed humans are considered sympathetic, with the game outright demanding that you befriend them in order to get the Golden Ending. Even if you kill a monster by accident (which the game tries to purposefully set up), it is still considered a Moral Event Horizon; when the game reveals that monsters have killed humans by accident, the intention is to make the player sympathetic for the monsters rather than the countless humans who died because of unknowing monsters. Even in the Golden Ending, where the monsters are released from the underground, the fact that most monsters don't know they're accidentally killing people is never addressed."
openWhat's in a name? (and a blank page) Literature
Hey everyone.
I wanted to create a fan fiction page for a story that I really enjoyed, and I'm thoroughly looking on the How to Create a Works Page. But for the life of me I can't find a good blank page to write on.
I'm not asking anyone to do this job for me, but where can I find one? Or do I create one by myself.
Thanks.
openContemptible cover
Is there reason that Contemptible Cover is a main page trope. It doesn't really have anything to do with the work itself and hence would fit better under trivia or ymmv(assuming its debatable).
openTrope launched without permission
Someone launched my TLP draft Ghost Train without permission or reason. I was just about to launch it myself, but if they just wanted it to be launched already, shouldn't they have just commented on the draft page and asked me to do it?
As you can see in the TLP archive, I still had some questions. Since nobody had answered them, I was just going to go ahead and launch the trope anyway, but now I feel worse about my questions staying open because someone launched the trope without providing any insight on my questions.
Edited by DrNoPumaopenBanned user bornofself is back. Again. Music
Oriental 1 is, judging by their edit history, bornofself's latest mantle. Didn't bother sending a message, but it doesn't matter because they're not supposed to be here but still somehow don't know when to quit.
open Bug Report: Commenting out an entry mess with indentation
See for yourself. Every entries after the first one are on two bullets level, but I comment out the fourth entry.
- First
- Second
- Third
- Fifth
- Sixth
- Seventh
openChanging a work's name Anime
Just wanted to check with you if the process of changing the work's title to it's English official translation was correct: 1/ Create the new page with the new name 2/ Copy the entire content of the former page 3/ Cutlist the old page with the untranslated name and ask to create a redirect to the new page (or create the redirect myself but I never did that...)
Am I correct? Thanks!
openWhich Index?
What would Absolutely Rose Street go under: Advertising, Series, or Film? It's a 30-minute infomercial that passes itself off as a tv show. I'm not sure where it goes.
On that note, do promotional videos go under Advertising or Film? A Sneak Peek At Pokemon is under Film.

I have a question regarding whether an scene in Chronicles of Chaos about an army of four different immortal factions are all taken aback when faced with a Army of the Dead and either fled or stopped counts as example of this trope, since it's a rather literal example but the point of the narration seems to be that they find death itself a fearful, unnatural or and incomprehensible concept, the text in the book goes likes this:
So what do you think? I know this usually goes in the discussion pages, and I opened a one, but no one answered.
Edited by Revival_Zero