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openEdit War on YMMV/Super Smash Bros Ultimate
In YMMV.Super Smash Bros Ultimate I removed an addition to the sole Ending Fatigue example by wrpen99 due to it being more about an example of That One Achievement, which is already listed on the page, and because it was on a separate bullet instead being added onto the example itself, I noted both in the Edit Reason, though I neglected to also mention the complaining nature of the edit. I also sent them an Example Indentation notifier before the removal.
They readded their edit, again on a separate bullet, with the part that was already under That One Achievement removed, but what remains still doesn't have anything to do with Ending Fatigue and reads more like complaining about an Ear Worm.
Edited by homogenizedopenDub Name Change mass deletions
Wayyyy mass deleted a vast majority of examples of Dub Name Change (especially on their newly-created subpage DubNameChange.Japanese To English) calling them ZCEs even as they were legitimate examples (most were "X in Japanese was called Y in English", which is sufficient context since it self-explanatorily demonstrates that a name change did occur).
Then he posted a big bold notice stating not to add every name change across different versions of a work. This baffles me, since it's not a trope omnipresent enough that straight examples should be banned (since not all works will change character names in translation and not everyone's name even if they did).
The folderization is appreciated but the examples deletion is way too far.
This was not the only time Wayyyy has wiped an examples section out of the blue.
openFridge horror on Arthur Western Animation
Found this on Arthur:
- D.W. becomes much more disturbing as a character when you realize that her treatment of Arthur and her behavior in general, despite her being only 4, is actually eerily consistent with a sociopath. She tends to see anything she wants as good and anything she doesn't want as bad, believes she is entitled to whatever she wants, is a Manipulative Bitch (often tricks others to get her way), is known to have outbursts, and seems to be learning to do what is socially expected of her even when she herself doesn't think she needs to do it but shows a complete lack of genuine empathy (for example, her Backhanded Apology in "Arthur's Big Hit", where she apologizes to Arthur for breaking his model plane when ordered to do so but doesn't actually feel guilty for it and still sees it as Arthur's fault for building the model wrong, therefore seeing anything "bad" as the fault of anyone but herself), and in general actually seems to enjoy making Arthur's life a living hell. So if she's already this sociopathic at four, what is she going to turn out like as a teen and adult!? Not to mention how this easily makes her one of the, if not the, most disturbingly fucked up characters to ever grace an Edutainment Show.
- While it's not canon, the You Tube video series Adult Arthur by AOK takes the "what will she be like as an adult" part and runs with it. It's not pretty.
Is this allowed here or no?
Edited by fraggleloveropenMemetic Loser misused (again)?
- Avatar Kuruk. He was a lazy Avatar who was more interested in flirting with girls, showing off, and playing pai sho than he was being the Avatar. He’d finally started to get serious and then got his wife’s face stolen by Koh and then died himself at the ripe old age of 33. Not helping matters is the fact that he’s Avatar Kyoshi’s, the Memetic Badass of the universe, predecessor. She spends most of her novel cleaning up his messes and even she doesn’t really respect him too much.
- Captain Phasma from the same movie also gets this. Pre-release materials set her up to be a mysterious chrome badass, but in the movie she ended up doing nothing but ordering stormtroopers around before she was easily captured by rebels and thrown down a garbage chute. She ended up being completely upstaged in popularity by Nines, a random stormtrooper who yelled "Traitor!" and beat the shit out of a lightsaber-wielding Finn with nothing but a stun baton. The Last Jedi didn't help her cred much since, after coming back with a vengeance, she got defeated in an anti climactic fight against both Finn and Rose (by using the oldest trick in the book, nonetheless) and seemingly falls to her death.
- Rogue One: Director Krennic. His character arc in the movie can be very accurately summed up as "Krennic gets yelled at by his superiors for two hours" or "Krennic has a very bad day". Even in-universe Darth Vader clearly sees him as an incompetent loser, an opinion rather well supported by Krennic showing up at Vader's home on Mustafar in the middle of the morning to bitch about a coworker (Tarkin).
- The Last Jedi: The MG-100 Star Fortress SF-17 bomber, whose only screentime in the movie has a wing of them getting blown up in the process of destroying a First Order Star Dreadnought; in particular, a single TIE Fighter crashing into one Star Fortress leads to a chain reaction that sends several of them up in flames. As a result, they're seen as worse flying coffins than TIE Fighters.
- Its director himself, Rian Johnson. A popular meme mocking his infamous writing-style is "If Rian Johnson Directed [...]" - where an iconic part from another film abruptly ends in an absurd Anti-Climax/Shocking Swerve.
- Avatar Kuruk. He was a lazy Avatar who was more interested in flirting with girls, showing off, and playing pai sho than he was being the Avatar. He’d finally started to get serious and then got his wife’s face stolen by Koh and then died himself at the ripe old age of 33. Not helping matters is the fact that he’s Avatar Kyoshi’s, the Memetic Badass of the universe, predecessor. She spends most of her novel cleaning up his messes and even she doesn’t really respect him too much.
Memetic Loser is about unfairly exaggerated loser reputations, this is all objective loserdom. Expect for Rain Johnson who's noted to be memetic, but I find applying it to a real life individual suspect of complaining. Cut? Does this trope warrant a cleanup thread yet?
openTLP laconics
A little while ago, I came to ATT to get help because Lord Gro was adamant that the slightly-ambiguous wordering of my laconic meant the TLP itself wasn't ready to launch, despite people pointing out that TLP laconics aren't even used after launching (meaning their sole purpose is to exist on the TLP itself and most people only use them because a bug forces them to
).
I thought it was all resolved, but now they're complaining about the laconic on One Mistake, Endless Mockery
. Now, nothing big has really happened yet, and I'll fully admit that I have a bad habit of sparking bigger arguments than I'd really like, but I'm bringing this up now to bring attention to the subject, as it seems they feel that TLP Laconics are real laconics and need to be as carefully crafted as actual laconics are, and this is the second time they've started bickering over it.
Hell, I'll freely agree that the laconic it currently has isn't ideal- but the issue is over whether or not TLP laconics need this much attention despite that they don't launch with the trope itself, and the potential for this to turn into another big issue. I just want this to be handled and discussed without it turning into a flame war like the other debate did.
Edited by WarJay77open Excessive (?) gushing Film
Awesome.Avengers Endgame features several paragraphs of gushing over the movie breaking every box office record and becoming the highest grossing movie ever. To wit:
- The film's box office performance has been nothing short of astounding:
- Most box office prognosticators were cautiously optimistic that it could break $300 million opening weekend in the US, which would handily break Infinity War's record of $257 million, in and of itself a staggeringly high amount of money. It completely obliterated everyone's expectations by making $357 million, $100 million more than its predecessor. Barring some ridiculous future inflation, it's hard to imagine a future movie breaking the box office record by a 9-figure sum.
- Endgame became the first movie ever to gross one billion (with a "B") dollars in its opening week! $1.2B to be exact, which is almost double what Infinity War did on its opening. This also makes it the second entertainment product to do so, outside of Grand Theft Auto V.note And of course, being a AAA video game which costs $60 rather than just the cost of a movie ticket, GTA V has a massive unfair advantage there. To put simply, it became the highest grossing movie of 2019 and the 18th-highest grossing movie of all time in four days, and it's even more impressive when one takes the film's heavy Continuity Lock-Out into account.
- As of its opening Sunday (28 April 2019), Endgame broke 144 records
.
- It became the highest grossing import movie in China ever in just a week. It hit $500 million there the Thursday after release, blowing past the original record holder The Fate of the Furious's $392 million total haul.
- After just 12 days into its worldwide release, Endgame not only surpassed $2 billion
(becoming the second comic book movie to do so), but also blew past Avengers: Infinity War, The Force Awakens, and James Cameron's Titanic to become the second-highest grossing movie of all time. In turn, this makes the MCU the first franchise to have two $2 billion grossing movies under their belt, unadjusted for inflation.note If you do adjust for inflation, then it's second only to Star Wars, but it's still impressive either way.
- Crossing over with Heartwarming, Cameron himself, a man infamous to MCU fans for his comments about "superhero fatigue", congratulated Marvel Studios
for surpassing Titanic:
@JimCameron: An Iceberg sank the real Titanic. It took the Avengers to sink my Titanic. Everyone here at Lightstorm Entertainment salutes your amazing achievement. You've shown that the movie industry is not only alive and well, it's bigger than ever!
- Crossing over with Heartwarming, Cameron himself, a man infamous to MCU fans for his comments about "superhero fatigue", congratulated Marvel Studios
- In 20 days, it grossed 2.5 billion. The only other film that achieved this was Avatar, and it took 72 days to get to that point.
- Then 89 days after release (July 20th, 2019), Endgame went above and beyond any other record it's broken prior to this point, and officially surpassed Avatar as the highest-grossing movie of all time.note worldwide, not adjusted for inflation, and the first sequel to do so. The last few weeks prior to this achievement were nail-biting, because even with the re-release in theaters it was clear that it'd be a photo finish either way... and yet it happened regardless. In fact, it happened with such perfect timing that Kevin Feige himself got to announce it during the Marvel panel at San Diego Comic Con. You'd swear it was pre-ordained from the heavens to work out this way.
- Once again, Cameron congratulates Marvel Studios for passing Avatar
:
@JimCameron: Oel Ngati Kameie, I see you Marvel. Congratulations to Avengers Endgame becoming the new box office king!
- Once again, Cameron congratulates Marvel Studios for passing Avatar
Do we really need all that info?
openSpeculative Troping Western Animation
Beatman 1 has been doing a lot of edits over the past for the Voltron: Legendary Defender page that speculate the intent of why things happen, or add negative weasel words to otherwise unremarkable information, in order to turn it more negative-sounding. For example bringing up that the lack of merchandise is likely due to the creators' personal hatred of the mecha genre, that certain lines of products were possibly poorly received, or canceled due to fan outrage (when poor sales or company mergers and layoffs are as likely of a cause and actually have received press coverage at the time; even so, that constitutes being too speculative to add in itself, and another user who made similar types of entries recently got suspended here and on other pages for blatantly violating the rules), despite no official indications otherwise.
I feel that, due to the notorious amounts of Epileptic Trees regarding this franchise and its creators' intent (of which I have plenty, but which I don't believe is my place to add them), that without some kind of official confirmation as to the motives of company actions, it crosses the boundary into speculative troping since it reads creator intent and malice into a page that is supposed to about recording audience reactions, and thus requires some measure of impartiality, despite the name.
I've had to do a lot of cleanup regarding his edits for negativity bias and it's getting very tiring as he rarely adds anything strictly informative enough to leave alone, and has already had a history of excess negativity towards the series to the point of thumps on the forums, and has been found to have engaged in unsolicited harassment of fans of the work on other social media.
I mentioned in the past about a tendency of his to use the page as a soapbox for his Single-Issue Wonk with the show, as well as bring it up in threads and pages for unrelated works, even bringing up arguments from people he's otherwise violently opposed to due to his vocal hatred of their taste for same-sex shipping in order to bash it, but I don't think it's safe for me to PM him knowing this now for fear of inviting said harassment onto myself.
Edited by AlleyOopopenRequesting a revert
A while ago, jto5334t
added several Zero-Context Examples to Elite Beat Agents. I hid them, and in the edit reason I left a link to the Administrivia page. Today, they started an Edit War by restoring all of the hidden entries without any adjustments, on top of adding a few others. I'm requesting a revert on that page, as I cannot edit it without engaging in an Edit War myself.
open Edit warring over including Deadpool on the MCU franchise page. Film
Alright, I'm not sure if this is the place to post this, but here it goes... There's been some controversy on the Marvel Cinematic Universe franchise page regarding the addition of one untitled Deadpool film, which has been confirmed to be in early development by trades and anyone worth a damn. The problem is that Deadpool co-creator Rob Liefeld has recently stated something to the contrary, and that's spawned a ton of clickbait headlines and the spread of misinformation.
Here's the thing - the only person who says that nothing is happening with a character that brought in $1.5B in global ticket sales is Rob Liefeld, who is not part of the Marvel Studios picture at all. He is not being included in conversations about the next movie in spite of being a consultant on the Fox movies, and he recently shared some fan art of Deadpool killing Mickey Mouse on his social media page, so he is clearly not an impartial source of information here.
Another big problem with his statement is that allegedly, production grids for the next film in the series are out there, seen by a select few (including some industry insiders). Disney CEO Bob Iger also has an image of Deadpool on his Twitter banner, and previously noted that he's open to the idea of there being an R-rated Marvel Studios label for a third Deadpool movie and potentially other films. Marvel are currently in the process of making an omnibus of Deadpool stories from Joe Kelly, who gave the character the personality that fans of the character love. But most importantly, not only have Deadpool 1 and Deadpool 2 writers Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick officially met with Marvel Studios about the future of the franchise, but Ryan Reynolds, who is the only "FoX-Men" actor likely to make the jump into the MCU, has as well.
This was the original entry on the page before it got reverted:
- Untitled Deadpool film (TBA) note Confirmed by Ryan Reynolds to be in development. Reynolds will be returning as Deadpool, with writers Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick returning. Emma Watts and Simon Kinberg, who were involved with the previous films, will not be returning. The film will be the first R-rated entry in the MCU, and is expected to be distributed by 20th Century Studios instead of by Disney. Whether or not the film is a complete reboot or a Broad Strokes continuation of the franchise as it was prior to Disney's acquisition of Fox remains to be seen.
I tried relaying some of this information into the commented-out notes of article itself, but a Troper has recently accused me of being "biased" and is threatening to report me for vandalism... In spite of my simple relaying of crucial information like what I've shared above that debunks the speculation that Disney wants nothing to do with Deadpool. I am requesting that the Deadpool entry be reinstated into the article.
Edited by KingClarkopenCreator complaining
From Creator.Bio Ware:
As of early 2020, BioWare faces a very uncertain future. Once near-universally considered the top studio for Western RPGs, BioWare's releases throughout the 2010s have been met with very serious controversy and criticism, with their last unqualified AAA hit being Mass Effect 2 in early 2010. In addition to a greatly diminished reputation for quality writing, modern BioWare has struggled to find a place for itself among modern industry trends. What was once BioWare's fairly unique signature mechanic of 'Give the player a team of companions to lead, fight alongside, talk to, and fall in love with' has been successfully adapted by other studios. Meanwhile, BioWare's attempts to reinvent its franchises as Wide Open Sandboxes have had poor results: Dragon Age: Inquisition, Mass Effect: Andromeda, and Anthem have all been derided for having shallow open worlds filled with fetch quests with very weak or nonexistent story content attached. In the wake of the disappointing Mass Effect: Andromeda and Anthem, reports have emerged of a studio plagued with weak and ineffective leadership and extremely high staff turnover. It remains to be seen if BioWare will be able to restore its reputation as a creator of great games with great stories.
This entry makes up half the length of the page now. This seems unfair for an entry that complaining and spectating about their future. Cut?
openIs Barry Allen a Designated Hero? Print Comic
Barry Allen has earned himself quite the lengthy entry at the comic book section of Designated Hero. It reads:
"The Flash: Barry Allen, the Silver Age incarnation of the character, has largely became this upon being brought back and pushed as the main Flash.
- Upon returning, he created the Flashpoint incident while trying to undo the meddling of his arch-enemy, Eobard Thawne/Reverse-Flash, who had altered Barry's past to give him an angstier backstory involving his mother getting murdered. However, rather than work with other heroes who are experts on this kind of thing, like Booster Gold or even his own former protege and Superior Successor Wally West (who unlike Barry, could run through time-and-space unaided and understood their powers on a much greater level), he did this by himself, resulting in a distorted Darker and Edgier timeline. While his motivations were sympathetic, the sheer idiocy of his blunder and how easily it could have been avoided, especially as he was warned prior during the Prelude to Flashpoint about what was going to happen and did it anyway.
- When he realised what he did and undid it, the result still didn't fix his mistake, resulting in a new timeline that was still Darker and Edgier, only everyone was also Younger and Hipper on top; while Barry's life in this new timeline wasn't bad, his friends were made miserable with both marriages and people erased, including Wally West, Wally's kids, and also Jay Garrick, Jesse Chambers, and the rest of the Flash Family. Though all of this was because Executive Meddling was in play (co-publisher Dan DiDio wanted the rest of the Flash family erased due to his personal dislike of Wally West and his belief that the franchise should be simpler, as well as his preference for Darker and Edgier stories and belief that True Art Is Angsty), it essentially meant that in-universe, Barry was personally responsible for erasing his nephew and family from existence, essentially killing them, while making everyone else he knew miserable and lonely. Meanwhile, Barry in this new timeline? He was a young, happy single with a cute Adorkable girlfriend, largely beloved by his city, with nobody knowing or remembering what he did.
- The Rebirth era didn't help with this matter, even after Wally West returns. During a team-up with Batman, he discovered Wally wasn't the only forgotten speedster when he meets Jay Garrick in the Speed Force. Rather than working tirelessly to save Jay, as you would expect a hero like Barry to do, he seemingly forgets about it to instead focus on other stuff. Then, Wally has his memory of his kids restored to him, and he calls Barry out on not even informing him about other trapped speedsters; he claims he was working with Batman to investigate it off-panel, but they were clearly not sparing much time looking into this, which could have been resolved by informing Wally, who not only wasn't busy with anything thanks to having his life erased, and also understands the Speed Force to a much greater extent than Barry and would be better suited into looking into it. Then, after the two are manipulated by Hunter Zolomon, Wally has a breakdown over the memory of his kids, so Barry sends him to a mental health facility where he never visits him, trusting instead that the facility can help him. It doesn't. Meanwhile, after sending Wally away, Barry could take this as an indication he should put more focus into finding the lost speedsters, but instead, he starts a different investigation into the "Other Forces", something he could have left up to his new ally, Commander Cold while he continued searching for Jay, Jesse, and Max. While his lack of focus on this could be chalked up to not remembering the other speedsters, it still looks callous of him to know people are suffering and to do nothing, even when told these people are his family."
Okay, I gotta ask: is this valid? I know that some people still have grievances towards Barry even after the end of Comic Book/Flashpoint and I do admit that I don't have the best knowledge on Barry's history, but this entry is so long and descriptive that it comes off as opinionated writing. What do we do with this?
Edited by MasterHeroopenThe Last of Us Part II questions
The Last of Us Part II has attracted a lot of controversy as mentioned here
. I have questions about the character Abby who is at the center of this controversy.
- Karma Houdini: She ultimately gets away with brutally murdering Joel, as Ellie opts to spare her to end the Cycle of Revenge. Of course, she still loses a lot of her friends at Ellie's hands as a consequence of what she did.
- Villain Protagonist: Arguably given the Black-and-Gray Morality of the setting, but you basically play as Joel's murderer for significant parts of the story. Of course, part of that story involves her having a Heel Realization of sorts that eventually leads her to give up her pursuit of Ellie.
- Designated Hero: Abby, her role in the game was done to humanise her as an antagonist; showing that she had a sympathetic reason to kill Joel and prove that his death changed nothing for her. However, players already saw her as beyond redemption for killing Joel since he was a beloved character from the first game. Ellie sparing her after killing so many people wasn't seen as the message it was intended to be, it was instead seen as Abby getting away with her crimes while Ellie loses everything in the process.
- Fourth Wall Myopia: Arguably part of why Abby is seen as unsympathetic by many players. We've played as Joel in the first game and are thus aware of the complexities of his character, and the understandable (albeit selfish) reasons why he killed the Fireflies to save Ellie. From Abby's perspective, however, he'd just be an unrepentant murderer as she only knows that he killed someone she cared about in cold blood. Many see Abby killing Joel as her crossing the Moral Event Horizon, but the reality is that she wouldn't be aware of Joel as a person unlike the player.
- Unintentionally Unsympathetic: One of the biggest criticisms the game faces is that, despite its numerous efforts to the contrary, Abby is stunningly unlikable and unsympathetic. While just about everybody understands why she would want to kill Joel, the fact that she actually goes through with it, the insanely vicious and sadistic manner she does it in, and her overall mean and ruthless personality destroys a lot of the sympathy the player may feel for her. It also really doesn't help that she basically gets away scot-free at the end, while her friends all suffer Ellie's wrath and Ellie herself ends the game with her life in ruins.
Karma Houdini seems to argue with itself saying they lost friends as karma. Villain Protagonist says it’s arguable and notes she makes an effort to repent. Designated Hero seems to clash with how Ellie and the game treats her as a villain and is redundant with Unintentionally Unsympathetic. Fourth Wall Myopia and Unintentionally Unsympathetic seem to disagree and I question UU since that’s why she’s the villain who gets better of because the repent for those traits (not denying she’s UU but was written it comes of as combining about intentionally dark stuff). Thoughts on these entries? I asked complaining cleanup but haven’t heard back.
I also have a question about Misaimed Fandom, does it count if fans wanted to kill Abby despite the point of the work was to show otherwise (the downer ending was the result of trying to do so)? Does it apply when there are legitimate reason for it (eg. Broken Aesop, Designated Villain, Strawman Has a Point), or only when it goes past what those reasons would justify?
openUser changing many images without discussion
Matuta 930 has been changing a lot images without discussion. As far as I know, they've changed the images on the following pages:
- Multiple Head Case (which was later reverted)
- Lovable Lizard
- Barefoot Sage (also later reverted)
- BodyHorror.Western Animation
- Was Once a Man
- Crazy Homeless People (once again, later reverted)
- Cats Are Mean
- For Halloween, I Am Going as Myself
- BodyHorror.Film
- TearJerker.Beastars
- Heartwarming.El Chavo Del Ocho
- Morphic Resonance (yet again, later reverted)
- NightmareFuel.Alien
- Various images on many character pages (although some of them do actually seem like improvements)
They've also added images without discussion on Funny.Akira, Polly Wants a Microphone and Amplified Animal Aptitude (while the first is fine, the latter two are JAFAAC).
Edited by jandn2014openPotential Ban Evader
I think Owah may have returned once again as Mixels Fan 1973, who is a new account primarily editing pages that Owah also liked, such as Brawl of the Objects. And, like Owah, they're changing images on pages, such as on Funny.Inanimate Insanity.
Mixels' history
for comparison with Owah's
.
Here's the previous thread about their evasion,
and the time they outed themself
.
Edit: Sorry, the links have been fixed.
Edited by WarJay77openPossible ROCEJ Violation
On Trivia.Chuggaaconroy, there's an example under Missing Episode involving a video featuring ProJared being removed due to a scandal involving him that started a few months ago that was originally read this:
- One of his Pikmin 3 Mission Mode episodes was removed as of May 2019, as the episode in question had Pro Jared as his guest. This was because said guest star was in deep trouble for...controversial reasons involving Jared cheating on his wife.
However, machop changed it to this:
- One of his Pikmin 3 Mission Mode episodes was removed as of May 2019, as the episode in question had Pro Jared as his guest. This was because said guest star was then-currently being accused by people who might've thought Jared was harassing certain groups. Fortunately, those claims were proven as false as of September 2019 by Jared himself. The video is still currently missing, however.
However, people are debating whether ProJared was really telling the truth or not, and I fear this could lead to an edit war. I think this example should be rewritten to be more neutral and should warn about ROCEJ like this:
- A Pikmin 3 Mission Mode episode featuring Pro Jared as a guest was removed as of May 2019, following allegations of Jared cheating on his wife. And we'll leave it at that.
openRoberto Jalareno
RobertoJalareno's edits
are a mess, consisting of making subpages for himself (which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed), and the few edits he has on other pages have formatting and grammar issues.
Also all of the pages he made come up as "Make Video game articles" and not Roberto Jalareno, which...I don't even know how that happened.
Edited by ArctimonopenPossible fanfic self-promotion?
While some of ZoicAlcelaphine's edits, particularly those related to Undertale, have been pretty questionable, I have reason to believe they may be recommending their own fics on the game's Fanfic Recs page. If you look at their troper page and the FFN page for one of the authors they keep promoting
, they seem a bit too similar for it to be a coincidence (at least, it seems that way to me).
Also, the recently-created page for the fanfic The World Of Humans And Monsters, and especially its YMMV page, are tripping several red flags for me. Some of these include repeated usage of "The author believes/thinks..." and putting four instances of the canon characters getting called out under Catharsis Factor (it doesn't help that they're zero-context examples), along with including some non-YMMV tropes in the YMMV subpage as another way of going "this is why the canon characters are wrong".
Even if I'm wrong about the troper and the author being one and the same, that fic page needs serious work in order to stand as an objective page (which, considering that it's pretty much a Hate Fic that turns most of Undertale's cast into either author avatars or straw characters, may be an uphill battle). What do you think?
openRude Troper
From what I've seen, Mr Stranger 616 seems to be rude. I realized he posted a harsh message in the discussion page
for KarmicButtMonkey.Western Animation. When I asked him to remove a Super-Trope he added to WesternAnimation.Donald Duck as a Sub-Trope was already listed, he started being rude. (Granted, he did do so
. I also won't reveal exactly what was said, partially because I don't think we're supposed to do that.) For the record, the trope he added
was Butt-Monkey and the Sub-Trope that was already listed is Karmic Butt-Monkey. I also would have deleted it myself, however, I didn't want to get in an Edit War since I previously deleted
the Butt-Monkey entry.

Sophia127 has been making unilateral changes to images and image captions and I don't want to edit war, so I'm saying something here. Courtesy link
to edit history. There are other problematic edits.
Berrenta has already sent a PM
about one page, but there are multiple pages involved. And now another thread
has been made to correct the unilateral change.
Images and image captions (some of these might be better images, tbh, but they were apparently done unilaterally):
Other issues:
It's pretty much every other edit, tbh.