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openRecap/CodeLyoko Western Animation
For Code Lyoko, I need help getting tropes for all the episodes, plus getting pages for the rest of the red linked episodes (and get XANA Awakens a page for itself (both parts 1 and 2), for crying out loud). I can't do this on my own. Can someone help me?
Edited by Teenlyokofan7777open Kid's show about two twin girls and their robot dog Western Animation
Hello~ I wanted to know what was the bame of that show I've watched when I was 5 years old~ I remember it was from around 1990's or from the early 2000's... This show was Canadian if I remember and it was about two twin women with blonde hair and red dressses, they we're pretty glamorous and would travel all around the world (mostly with an air plane) if I remember right the had a male companion not sure if he was 20 years old or an old man, I don't remember right, but a big hint here is that those girls we're based of off real celebrities, two Canadian twins and the show itself started the intro with the real actresses getting inside an air plane , and then, they transformed into cartoon girls. I remember they had a Scootish dog type that was a robot and would do lots of things and also talk. The girls we're drawn quite realistic not like Johnny Test, Gravity Falls, Princess Star or any other modern western cartoons, this was more detailed and the animation was pretty good~... I even remember one episode where the girls got scared of how popular robot dogs became, that all the children had abandoned their pets to buy robot puppied and I remember the girls to be quite upset, and they dealed with a golden retriever (If I remember right) to find his home and convince the owner to get rid of the robot dog and take care of him instead~... I remember that this episode quite weirded me out since the girls themselves owned a robot dog~.. anyway, I hope you people do remember this show because I really want to know the name of it~♪
openTwo fanfics Need Magic Wiki Love Western Animation
My crossovers Code Saw and Code Wings 3.0 need some help getting tropes. I've been trying to get them myself (and would edit the page Needs Wiki Magic Love myself if it weren't locked), but I can't do it on my own. Do you all think you can help me?
Please and thank you. It would help a lot.
(I would put it under Fan Works, but you don't have a category for that, unfortunately.)
Edited by Teenlyokofan7777openPrincess Jasmine's Age Western Animation
A while back, I deleted a Values Dissonance entry on Aladdin's YMMV page stating Princess Jasmine to be 15 years old, as I had stumbled across a piece of trivia on Jasmine's page on the Disney Wiki saying she was going to be fifteen and that the Sultan would say that she's got to be married by her sixteenth birthday in an early story concept for the movie, but Jeffery Katzenberg nixed it because he worried about sending the wrong message by showing a fifteen year old girl getting married. It then linked to a book titled Aladdin: The Making of an Animated Film, a book that talks about the movie's development, as its source. More recently, a fellow troper added a Fanon entry to the movie's YMMV page mentioning this exact information. However, Queen Of Swords just deleted it and re-added the Values Dissonance entry while linking to two articles as a source. One of which is a blog that says "although several of the princesses ages were never actually stated in the films, researchers have used aspects from the movies, interviews with members from the Disney corporation, and a general sense of how girls act at certain ages to compile enough data to at least guess at these ages"; from my point of view, this blog never provides any actual sources of their own to back up this claim apart from hearsay, and they even state that it's more of an estimation rather than a concrete answer. The other one links to a Buzzfeed article which itself links to the Disney Princess page on the Disney Wiki, stating that that's where their ages are found. However, I looked, and there's nothing there. Suffice it to say, I don't really consider these valid sources to back up the idea that Jasmine is 15, and I personally trust what a book, that talks about the movie's development and the people working on the movie while going into great detail about each of those things, has to say over what these people on the Internet have to say. I would delete the Values Dissonance example again and re-add fearlessnikki's Fanon entry, but I don't want to risk starting an Edit War.
Any thoughts?
open I have a question Western Animation
You see this image right here?
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Yeah, what if Princess Bubblegum didn’t change her outfit like normal, she just presses a button that rapidly changes her outfit?
Like this for example:
Princess Bubblegum: (Presses the button: her outfit morphs into her sleeping gown with her hair in ties) “No” (Presses it again: her outfit morphs into a pink shirt with pink pants, as well as her hair tied in a bun) “No” (Presses it once again: her outfit morphs into her pink sweatsuit with pink jeans, oh, and her bun got undone, causing her hair to grow back to it’s original length) “No” (Keeps pressing the button multiple times, morphing her outfit as well as saying “No” every time, as well as changing her hair style in the process. She also got de-aged to her 13 year old self, and got aged back up to her 18 year old self when she pressed the button. Her outfit morphed into: Her light blue dress, her baby blue swan dress, her cupcake dress, her dull pink dress, her short dress, her purple pouch dress, her shirt dress, her pink winter hoodie, her 2nd short dress, her party dress, her yellow shirt, her blue lab coat with her witch hat, her Web Weirdos dress, her white and purple dress, and finally, her blue silky dress) (Presses it again: her outfit morphs into her winter sweater dress) “Ugh! No!” (Presses the button one more time: her outfit morphs into her lab outfit) “Yes! There we go! Finally! Now... off to the lab!”
Edited by ILoveCrossoversopenRequesting New Addition to She-Ra and the Princesses of Power Fanfic Page Western Animation
I'd like to suggest adding Don't Go
to the She-Ra and the Princesses of Power Fanic Recs page, but can't do so myself without it being vouched for by a third party.
It was written by Annacharlier — who is apparently Noelle Stevenson herself — and bridges some of the narrative gaps in Episode 5
and Episode 6
of Season 5 (consider that a spoiler warning if you haven't watched the show yet). Regardless of whether or not Noelle herself wrote it, it's very well-written and emotional — if a bit more mature than the show itself is.
It also comes with some Adora-ble artwork
apparently also done by Noelle herself.
openNo Title Western Animation
Am I allowed to remove WM Gs that I added myself? I have a WMG I made here that I'm not proud of anymore and I'd like to remove it from the page.
WMG in question.
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Proof that I originally made it.
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openWhere would this scene fit? Western Animation
In an episode The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius, Jimmy asks Goddard to use x-ray on Cindy's clothes when she's accused of stealing one of Sheen's Ultra Lord figures, prompting Carl to avert his gaze, Sheen to look on in excitement, and Cindy herself to furiously slap Jimmy across in the face at that suggestion.
Would that fit into Pervert Revenge Mode (even though the x-raying didn't actually happen), Power Perversion Potential, or somewhere else?
open Ghetto: Where does its use (as in Animation Age Ghetto, etc.) to refer to media stigmas originate? Western Animation
Apologies if this is in the wrong place; I'm not a regular user here, and the Trope Talk forum doesn't want to let me make a new topic in it for some reason. :( Stuck this question in Western Animation simply because the Animation Age Ghetto is the most widespread version of this trope to my knowledge.
So this has been a tricky one for me. I've been trying to search up the exact origin of when exactly "ghetto" used to refer specifically to media, entertainment, fiction etc. was first used.
The most well-known and oft-used definition of the word "ghetto" by your average person is, of course, to refer to an impoverished physical community consisting of members of the same minority group. It's often slung around these days as a snide derogatory slur toward black people and/or the poor, though the term originated in reference to a Jewish community within a city (the word did not gain overtones of "inferiority" or "low class" until WWII, if my information is correct).
Where in the world did this word make the jump from "poor minority neighborhood" to "media relegated to niche audiences because of a culturally ingrained perceived lack of maturity, value or mass appeal"?
I can see where someone might make the correlation, but I'm a little baffled as to when it started picking up. All of the sources I search for just point me back to TV Tropes, but only to the trope pages in their current form—I can't find a trope naming discussion for the life of me. There is the occasional conversation clarifying usage of tropes including "ghetto" in this site's archives, but nothing I can find on the origin of this usage of the term itself.
The earliest usage I can seem to find that uses "ghetto" in reference to any sort of media specifically is Kaz Hirai talking about the PSP in 2005 during a conference: "Some have said that the PSP is our answer to the (Nintendo) Game Boy. Well, here’s how we view the world: PSP will elevate portable entertainment out of the handheld gaming ghetto and Sony is the only company that can do it. We happily accept this challenge and, dare I say it, the baton has been passed."
Is this where the word "ghetto" as used to describe mediums and genres in the Ghetto Index got its start? Would it be accurate to say that Hirai coined this usage of the term, or was it established earlier? Or is Hirai's usage of the term irrelevant, and TV Tropes users either got the usage from elsewhere, or came up with this usage of the word "ghetto" on their own?
Help would be appreciated, thank you!
Edited by satchelkopenNo Title Western Animation
Since not long after the show premiered, there's been an edit war going on on the character pages for RWBY about whether or not Ambiguous Disorder applies to the protagonist Ruby, and it's about time this got settled once and for all.
The issue has been in discussion here
for the past few days, but there simply hasn't been enough turnout for any clear consensus to be achieved, leaving the discussion at an impasse.
I personally favor the idea that Ruby may have some form of (high funcitoning) autism; this was an observation I initially made intuitively, having a professional diagnosis of Aspergers myself, but going through the diagnostic criteria for the disorder, specifically the DSM-4-TR criteria for Asperger's along with the Adult Asperger's assessment, she seems to fit enough of the criteria to merit a diagnosis.
It may seem like overkill to do that, but this trope has been added, removed, and readded around 5 times since the main characters page was split into teams RWBY and JNPR based on the history. In fact, if my memory serves, this was going on back when the trope was known as "Ambiguously Autistic." It has since been changed into a more generic trope for a character who behaves in a manner which is suggestive of a disorder, but it still applies as far as I can tell.
The full walk-through of the criteria and how I believe they apply to this character can be found on the discussion page I linked to, note that it's a nearly four page long explanation complete with citations, so I'd rather not re-post that to ask the tropers for fear of clogging up the entire page. Nevertheless, some great points were made on the discussion page, so I'd strongly recommend people interested in weighing on on this issue read it.
openNo Title Western Animation
Hi there! I am a brand-new troper (cue moans of exasperation from veteran tropers) who wishes to create an article for a show that doesn't have one yet. But it looks like someone has already begun creating one; when I search the title of the show, I'm linked to an article that is completely blank except for the title. The site tells me that the first thing I need to do is to create an index, and I'm confused. What should I link to in the index? Just "Western Animation" itself, or other Western Animation shows? Do I link to tropes that appear in the show? I've even seen some indexes that are alphabetical; should I do that? Any instructions for a first-timer on how to create an index for a new article? Thank you so much!
openNo Title Western Animation
- sigh* Okay. I've just added a new article (no information yet except for the title) to the Western Animation index, but it's been Red Linked. I'm positive that I haven't made any spelling errors and that the page exists, because when I search its title, I am linked to an article with that title, which says "Click the edit button to start this new page". It also says that the page hasn't been indexed yet, even though I have added it to Western Animation. I don't mean to be a nuisance with all the questions about indexing and whatnot that I've been asking, and I promise that I'm trying to be as self-sufficient as possible, but can anyone help out a frustrated newbie and tell me why my article has been Red Linked and what I can do to fix it? Thanks.
openNo Title Western Animation
There's some Edit warring on the Cartoon Network page. Tropers.I Am Boring keeps removing and changing any content that mentions the "CN Real" and "renaissance" eras (and a few other things too) on the page to whatever he wants, only saying "No YMMV items on the main page", which is ironic considering that he himself has put YMMV stuff on the main page (not to mention that there is a bunch of YMMV stuff still there, even before this edit war), and really sounds more like "I want this description done my way" rather than issues of having subjective tropes. I even tried to make a compromise, but he just continued on with his edit warring. Can I get a resolution on this? Yes the network has been in a bit of a rut lately, but I know that we can describe the network with a description that can make all sides happy.
Also, what is the rule when it comes to YMMV and Audience Reaction potholes and mentions when it comes to a work's/network's/creator's/etc. description? The only thing I know is that these shouldn’t be used as an example to a trope with the exception of In-Universe examples. If there’s a rule using those in a description, then all I can say that it is poorly enforced around the wiki. If not, then I smell a need for mod intervention on this page.
Edited by GundamforceopenNo Title Western Animation
On the My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Non Canon page, the last three entries are for clopfics (sexually explicit MLP:FIM fanfics). Since the new guidelines say no porn on the wiki, does this cover examples from works that don't have a trope page too? Here are the entries in question.
- That Night Atop The Tower
takes Cadence's status as The Woobie and takes it Up To Eleven. How? Celestia reveals to Cadence that, as an Alicorn, she's immortal and will outlive Shining Armor, also revealing Celestia herself suffered the exact same thing. Once Cadence recovers from that bombshell, resolving to remain with Shining Armor, she returns to their bedroom...and is promptly pulled through a mirror by Queen Chrysalis who proceeds to force her to watch as she makes love to Shining Armor right in front of her.
- Hormones
. Spike goes through puberty, and not being able to deal with his urges, eventually ends up raping Winona. Caught in the act by Applejack, he runs home ridden with guilt, knowing that his reputation in town and all his friendships are ruined forever, and hangs himself in the basement. The ending where Twilight finds him is heartbreaking enough, but then few weeks later the author wrote an epilogue about Twi having to deal with the loss, which gets even more depressing.
- The otherwise hilarious fanfic Estrus
has a moment where Fluttershy reveals that her parents were relgious fundamentalists comparable to Margaret White, - prompting a hug from Pinkie Pie - as well as a brief moment where Pinkie wonders if she might be adopted and looks crestfallen - though it only lasts for a split-second, not long enough for Fluttershy to return the hug.
openNo Title Western Animation
Hi there! I'm here to report a potential case of vandalism.
This
is the page history for The Simpsons, an article I fixed myself in the great Nightmare Fuel cleanup. I noticed there was something odd about the length of the "General" section of the article, as it was considerably shorter than I remembered it to be. Then I found a quote in the "Treehouse Of Horror" section that wasn't supposed to be there, namely Sideshow Bob's "Or so I thought" from the "The Bob Next Door" episode in which he tears off his face (long story). The line of dialogue comes from his Internal Monologue during the aforementioned scene, and I can recall the episode was among the examples listed in the article, but now it's not there anymore.
Thing is, I suspect some vandalism has happened, but I can't quite get some clue about what actually happened precisely because I can't explore the (long) page history without getting kind of lost. Anyone want to help me out a little bit with this one?
Thanks in advance, as usual! :-)
openNo Title Western Animation
There's a page I came across where I'm not sure how to handle it.
The Governator, a show that was to be about a fictionalized version of Arnold Schwarzenegger as a Bruce Wayne/Batman type superhero. However, the show itself never made it to the air, due to a personal scandal involving AS. Should the old version be returned and cleaned up for Examples Are Not Recent issues, or just zap the new one as a stub (albeit with 63 inbounds, so the Cut List is out)?
The problem is that the current version of the page isn't the original one. The old one has a lot more tropes, but it was based solely on promotional materials, with a lot of "seems like", "appears", and so forth.
I checked the directory for ongoing project threads
but didn't see anything that seemed like it would be an appropriate place to bring this issue up.
openNo Title Western Animation
Someone is vandalizing the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic - Season 4 page. I would clean it out myself, but my internet is down and I'm on my phone.
openNo Title Western Animation
Is it okay if I make a Self-Demonstrating Article (character page) for Cartman from South Park?

How can I make a self demonstrating page