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open Adjusting Your Glasses
Somebody really needs to explain to me what's going on with the Adjusting Your Glasses page. The description has an example as thesis thing going on, it's got four extra descriptions trying to make subtropes that are probably unnecessary, and because of all that most of the examples are ZCEs.
I really don't know what to do with this. There is a trope in here, but the page itself is bizarre.
openPossible example Web Original
(Sorry for making so much ATT threads regarding entries i’m just kinda nervous about my contributions and I want to make sure they’re right-)
So I want to add an example for Self-Destruct Mechanism from a You Tube series I’m into, and I just want to make sure it’s a-okay before adding it.
The Final Minutes - Zombie Plague: The Path’s compound locations are fitted with a Magno Loop, an underground ring that acts as the compounds’ defense system. It’s also fitted with Complete Destruction mode, which causes the loop to cycle through all of its defense modes before detonating and vaporizing anything in a 25 kilometer radius.
Here’s the part that the info comes from
, the self destruct mode gets more detail at the 37:13 mark.
openDoes Dummied Out apply here? Videogame
This example of Dummied Out is on the page for Animal Crossing: New Horizons:
- Dummied Out:
- Data for the Sanrio villagers exists in New Horizons, but the villagers aren't currently used, possibly being intended to be added to the game in future updates. The other Welcome amiibo-introduced villagers, however, have no data for them whatsoever.
- Museum room IDs exist
for a cafe (presumably the Roost) and a Gyroid exhibit. ID data also exists for a two-room art exhibit, but this was eventually implemented into the game itself via the Nature Day update, implying that the cafe and Gyroid exhibit will be made accessible to players somewhere down the road.
- Another dataminer
found even more info about dummied content. There's an unused shopping menu for the Museum (presumably the shop that was previously seen in New Leaf), as well as "Real Estate" and "Gallery" shops of unknown purpose. Data relating to diving and deep-sea creatures (from New Leaf) that may also tie into a third unused "Seafood" section of the Critterpedianote The manila clam is the only entity in this category which was implemented in the game at launch, vegetables that can be harvested, and recipes for cooked dishes and clothing were also found among the game's files. Finally, there's also data for a third Nook's Cranny upgrade.
- The same miner also found Leif's garden shop, the return of bushes and artwork, and Redd's Treasure Trawler before their proper release in the Nature Day update. The "private beach" where Redd docks is referred to as "Nつねきち" ("NTsunekichi") in the game's files, with Tsunekichi being Redd's Japanese name.
The problem is, New Horizons is a game that's being continuously updated with new content. As stated in the example, some of the items that were listed as Dummied Out have already been added to the game through content updates, and it's likely that more of them will be in the future. Since Dummied Out appears to deal specifically with content that was cut from a game, should examples be listed if there's still a reasonable chance that they could be added to the game?
openHilarious In Hindsight on the Megamind page, misuse or not? Film
I've noticed that keyblade333 recently deleted the entirety of the Hilarious in Hindsight entry from the Megamind page.
After I talked to them about it, they claimed that it was because of misuse.
I think they're a mixed bag. Things like Jonah Hill's and Will Ferrell's roles in The Lego Movie count, given that Jonah Hill was voicing a character who was heavily inspired by Jimmy Olsen, with the names of two Green Lanterns, only to later voice Green Lantern himself who has an obsession with Superman. Same thing with both Will Ferrell characters having a tendency to mispronounce things and also being parodies of over-the-top supervillains.
Some of the entries really were borderline examples, but that's no reason to delete the entire entry.
Edited by tropineasilyopenQuestion on what to do about Nice Guy
Like Deadpan Snarker, Nice Guy is another popular established trope that has gotten huge amounts trope decay. The trope is supposed to about a character that is defined by their niceness and isnt really involved in the story events. Now it's used for character that shows an ounce of kindness or human decency even if they are a Jerk with a Heart of Gold.
To quote Administrivia.Square Peg Round Trope:
"Like the Deadpan Snarker before him, the Nice Guy distinguishes himself (or herself) from other characters by having his niceness, politeness, helpfulness, and lack of overt conflict/drama be his defining characteristic. However, much like how every character ever to make a sarcastic quip was soon labeled a Deadpan Snarker, now every character ever shown to have an ounce of kindness is being labeled Nice Guy even though it's far from their primary characteristic. Put simply: If you and/or the characters have to look for the niceness under a cold, harsh, or troubled exterior, then the character is not a Nice Guy. Please don't go slapping that label on every character who is not a complete Jerkass."
Do I make a clean up thread for it first and then if TRS is decided to be necessary take it there? Or should I gear up towards just doing the wick check and then take it to TRS?
open Valid removal?
Steve From Canada removed an example
from TheReasonYouSuckSpeech.Real Life, with the edit reason "Removed Tommy Lee's entry because he invocked the "Fine Prople Hoax" while berating Donald Trump. If you want to give to someone reasons why he sucks, stick to non-fiction ones."
This seems like an invalid deletion to me; the trope still applies, this was still a TRYSS directed at Trump, even if the speech itself had inaccuracies. I think it should be re-added, but want to discuss it first.
Edit: Hold on, this is worse than I realized. Every edit this person has made has been to this page, and all they've ever done is delete Trump-related examples from it.
Edited by WarJay77openBashing Troper
I just want to go ahead and say I don't watch Supergirl so I have no two cents in this one way or the other.
So on Supergirl, there's a character named William who apparently is not liked at all by the fanbase. I suppose that in and of itself is fine to put on YMMV pages since it's a notable Audience Reaction, but there seems to be a problem with bashing rather than just stating. Specifically, Starbrand 1987 has made many, many edits just talking about how much fans hate William. (They also have several grammar problems like no punctuation and no capitalization, but that's beside the point.)
Here
Starbrand adds And The Fandom Rejoiced about William possibly dying. Here
they put in an entry saying that William flirting with Kara after she turned him down on an episode that aired on International Woman's Day...is Narm.
Most of it is here
on the YMMV page. Starbrand puts a large edition to an entry talking about how poorly-received William is, an entry about how his actor and Kara's actress have no chemistry, adding William and Kara's romance under Audience-Alienating Premise ("Not one regular supergirl media reviewer approves of the relationship."), basically accusing the writers under Trolling Creators, and several subbullets under The Scrappy that got deleted.
Forenperser has deleted some entries, but with the reasons "Stop this silly obsession already." and "Natter, poorly written and just plain obsession," I'm afraid this is going to get hostile soon. They were reported to ATT before
, but it seems they're still at it.
openGame book Pages - Cleansing Required?
I've actually brought this up with another moderator, but decide to bring it here for a ... uhm, let's say, broader opinion, shall we?
So... on the Gamebooks main page
, there is a page dedicated for the What If… (Gamebooks), and its divided into 9 sub-pages of the various instalments.
Which is fine and all if the person who started the sub-pages bothered to make it complete, however its really, really noticeable that the sub-pages are unprofessionally written, severely lacking in details, and some of them doesn't even have tropes. And if it did, each page contains at most 2 to 4 tropes, which begs the question, do we really need these pages?
All those pages are started by Sideshow Jazz 1 3 years ago, and said troper have not been updating the pages he/she started. (circa 2017)
I'm suggesting we consolidate all the books into 1 page (like this one for Give Yourself Goosebumps) and send the rest to the Cutlist. What do you think??
Edited by RobertTYLopenVandalism in WhatCouldHaveBeen/Sports
Trooper Triple TV 95 has been removing the player names from the basketball section of What Could Have Been/Sports. I reverted the edits the last two times myself and warned him he'd be reported if it happened again.
He claimed to have no idea what I was talking about.
He did it again, today. No reasoning or explanation.
Edited by Willbyropen Weird Documentary Series?
Does anyone recall a TV show around 10 years ago that shows individual people filming themselves in recluse places around the world..... but something goes terribly wrong.... and they disappear? I watched the episodes when I was younger and am eager to show my partner the series that has stayed on my mind so long. I really only remember two episodes distinctly, but like I said, they were good enough to stick in my memory for this long One episode features a guy who is making a documentary, but it is not 'professional.' it really looked like some guy took a camera with him and filmed himself. for the most part of the episode, you really only see him from the chest up. however, some way through the episode, he is 'attacked' by something (which you don't see on camera) and you later see him document his wounds. through the progression of the episode, this man slowly becomes sick (im pretty sure he mentions that something similar to a kimodo dragon attacked him, and because they have so much bacteria in their mouth, he quickly becomes sick). the end of the episode is a caption that 'the man was never found, but this footage was recorded ect' THATS THE FIRST EPISODE. THE NEXT IS MY FAVOURITE
This episode features a woman who is on the ocean with her boat, she is filming herself in a very similar way to the man in the episode previously, but hers is more like a video blog. continuing on with her story, something happens to the womans boat which stops it from running anymore (I think the propeller broke or something) this woman puts her wetsuit on ect, and ATTACHES THE CAMERA TO THE FRONT OF HER WETSUIT/VEST so you can only see an up-close-and-personal view of her neck, nose, mouth and eyes. anyway, she climbs down the ladder into the water to see what had happened to the propeller, but something come out of the water and she is dragged under. the camera is submerged in water and you see a huge amound of bubbles. the video ends and the same caption is showed at the end of the episode 'the woman was never found, but this footage was recorded' (or something to that extent) the next thing that happened in the episode after the caption is there is video of a camera in the water and people speaking a foreign language (i believe they were of 'asian' descent and it was some sort of a falling-apart fishing boat). they pick the camera up out of the water and look at it (so its an upclose shot of a man looking into the lense). the video cuts out. after that theres a video of someone filming their boat (like you were looking from his perspective) coming to an abandoned boat floating in the ocean. the people on this video are speaking English, however and talk about how weird it is that the boat is empty. they yell at the boat, trying to make contact with the occupants, but of course there is no one on board. they travel around the boat and you can hear people exclaim at bloody hand prints that they see on the side of the boat. the episode ends
I dont ever remember seeing more episodes like this, im pretty sure it was featured on Foxtel. I am 18 now, and i remember seeing this when i was between the ages of 8-9 (so 9-10 yrs ago) and the quality of the film was really poor, like someone is literally holding a camera up to their face and filming themselves. (i also live in australia and watched this in australia) It honestly stuck in my head so vividly beacuse of how REALISTIC the filming was, like it could be an actual event that happened and people have randomly discovered these video cameras lying around and released the videos found on them. I know its a long shot and i havent found anything on the internet remotely similar to what i have watched. this was my last shot at finding the Tv show or some of the film from it, because it was honestly quite cool. Please help if you can. MUCH APPRECIATED
- Trinity
openIs it better to move this example to Harsher in hindsight? Live Action TV
On Kitchen Nightmares S6 E15 "Amy's Baking Company" there is this entry:
- Epileptic Trees: Some netizens took Samy's obsessive control over the till, his pocketing of servers' tips, and his admonishing Gordon that "You're not the gangster here, I'm the gangster!" as signs that the restaurant was actually a money-laundering front for The Mafia, which would just raise even more questions.
- According to law enforcement sources, Samy was involved in drugs and extortion while in Europe, so it's not far off the mark.
- Which is questionable itself. If you were running a covert criminal operation, would you want these loud, incompetent assholes anywhere near it? Additionally, if the restaurant were involved in any criminal activity, the last thing they should ever, ever do is involve Gordon Ramsay and be on a show that is seen on national television.
- According to law enforcement sources, Samy was involved in drugs and extortion while in Europe, so it's not far off the mark.
The indentation and the natter have to be corrected of course, but doesn't it make more sense to move it to Harsher in Hindsight? I was thinking of removing the final entry, which is mere natter, and merge the first two together.
Edited by gc10openWho is Eddy Kariti? Possible Misinformation Troll
Courtesy Link: Eddy Kariti, discussion page
and history of the page
I happened to look at the Cut List and someone, ~Spokuha, added Creator.Eddy Kariti on the cut list for "being a fraud" who allegedly has added himself to various wikis for the U.S. version of Being Human despite not actually showing up in the show. Here's a link to the guy's Twitter account.
(Though notably he isn't verified.) Apparently, Kariti played a character named "Randy Brooks" but on our Characters.Being Human UK and Characters.Being Human US pages there is no such character listed.
This is so strange.
The Creator/ page was made by ken-chicken (edits
), who also added the filmography section of the page. I just scanned IMDB's pages for the two Being Human series, the movie (Being Human: Unearthed), and an unrelated 1994 movie of the same name. "Randy" and "Eddy Kariti" are not listed among the "Full Cast & Crew" lists.
I'll PM Spokuha about this thread.
EDIT: This
seems to be the actor's IMDB page. I assume it's correctly a page for the same person in part because it lists the same person as being his father, but it could also be full of b.s.
Editing to add list of Creator/ pages made by ken-chicken:
There may be overlap with mahidevrans (edit history
showing similar interests in obscure creators like Creator.Berrak Tuzunatac, Creator.Tuncel Kurtiz, and Creator.Cansu Dere, though admittedly these are all Turks), who created a page for Painters and added this obscure Eddy Kariti person to the list in March 2019 (draft edit history
).
openA couple of editing requests
- First, can somebody please help me add tropes to Shin Megami Tensei: Persona? I decided to add tropes that cover the whole series, as I find it odd that such a popular and large series with a ton of tropes each didn't have tropes in its main page.
- Second, can someone please proofread the page for Not the intended use (Zantetsuken Reverse)? I wrote it entirely by myself (still incomplete, btw), so I'm not sure if I accidentally have misused a trope, have ZCEs or have bad indentation. A second view would be helpful.
openQueer Romance: trope or index?
Queer Romance does indexing, but it's treated like a trope on the page itself, complete with commenting out of ZCEs (which, if it's supposed to be functioning as an index, should not actually be considered/treated as ZCEs)
openWhere to file examples from a show within a show
So I'm crosswicking Card Force Infection and I'm wondering if the examples of tropes in the in-universe card game should go in the Literature folder or the Tabletop Games folder?
It's never been published as a tabletop game, but the author does have a list of the full rules text for all the cards seen so far and enough of the game flow has been discussed in the story that one could put together and play the game, if one wanted to.
... For that matter, should tropes from the in-universe card game be separated out on the work page itself? I did it like that because I thought it looked nicer, but on reflection I'm not sure if it's the "correct" thing to do and I can't think of another game-within-a-story that's theoretically playable but not actually published like this one is to compare against.
Edited by wingedcatgirlopenWork in the wrong namespace Anime
Le Portrait de Petite Cossette is under Manga/, yet the article itself (and every other source) says it is an original OVA and the manga came later. Can I move the page to Anime/ and turn Manga/ into a redirect?
openLow-Trope Characters Sheets
Is there a minimum amount of tropes a Character Sheet entry should have and be commented out otherwise (and not of the self-evident kind that can't really be developed further because the character isn't given much to do)?

So, I found these entries in the YMMV page for Wonder Woman (2017).
Do they really qualify for these tropes or not? I'm asking because sometimes, the inclusion of these tropes in YMMV pages are less "This plot/character wasn't properly developed or explored" and more "I didn't like the way this plot/character was handled."