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open Would it be possible to add a "Search Series by Specific Tropes" Feature in the future?
While I don't use this site super often, whenever I'm trying to look for series with multiple specific tropes (to use as examples in discussions) It can be real annoying using the Google Quote Finder, since a lot of Times the results just end up being the tropes themselves rather than any series with all the tropes I've listed. Having a Search Series by Specific Tropes feature would really help narrow down series you're looking for with all of said tropes instead of trying to use google quote finder or scowering TV Tropes itself HARD to find your answers! For a random example, if I wanna search for a series with Defeat Means Friendship, World of Badass, & Cast from Hit Points, if there were a Search Series by Specific Tropes feature, I could just put all 3 of those series down in the search (or select them, whichever way works) & it would show me all the series that have those 3 specific tropes. It doesn't even seem too difficult to implement since the search would literally just be playing guess who with the Listed Tropes of every media that has a page in TV Tropes
If you wanna go the extra mile for this, though I don't expect this to be featured immediately when/if the feature itself gets implemented, there could also be the option to either search only by tropes that the series itself lists, or also allow for tropes that only specific characters show (in the characters tab if said media has 1), & not the series itself. & While I honestly dunno how this specific feature would work, if it could somehow work, the search could even allow you to search for specific "playing with" aspects of each trope (Example - Defeat Means Friendship: Played for Drama, World of Badass: Exaggerated, Cast from Hit Points: Inverted). Again, I dunno how or even if it could be implemented considering I doubt that even most tropes listed on each & every media post lists how it uses each & every trope, but if it CAN work, that would be even more awesome to have
Now I'll admit I could be horrifically blind to this site & that there's already this kind of feature implemented to begin with, but as of now, trying to use Google Quote Finder to search for series with very specific tropes is a pain, & this seemingly simple to implement feature (without the bonuses I listed, though by all means if you wanna include them that'd be great) would make things a lot easier
openCreator / Howard Stern
Howard Stern - courtesy link.
I'm a bit confused by this. I found it because I'm doing a routine cleanup of pages I'm finding via "Random work", and it's a creator page- but a lot of the examples seem to be about the show itself, and while it does say "Stern and his creations" before the examples the examples seem to be specifically about the one show... or they're troping RL people.
openIs Jossed Trivia?
I found Jossed on a Trivia page, but I've never seen it there before. The Jossed page itself doesn't help either way.
openDon Bluth quotes
Anyone know why all of the quotes on Quotes.Don Bluth that aren't from Bluth himself are so negative?
Is Bluth more hated in the animation community than I thought, or does someone on this site have a negative vendetta against him?
Edited by MrMediaGuy2openExample identation
Is this proper example identation on Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf? I'm not sure.
- Foe Yay: Oh, so much. There's the animosity between Weslie and Wolffy, for starters. Wolffy always gets to tie the goats up and throw them in a boiling pot; it doesn't help that he tries to taunt them with phrases such as: "Why don't you come home with me, little goat?" "Don't worry, little goat, uncle Wolffy will save you", (to Patty) "Nobody wants you? Don't worry, I want you", (to Tibby) "No place to sleep? Why don't you come to my place," etc.
- It really doesn't help that Weslie seems to enjoy the attention:
Weslie: And you have me to keep you on edge!Wolffy: You call that a good thing?Weslie: Of course.- Keep in mind that the two of them are chained together in the desert at the moment.
- Later at night, they actually hug one another, thinking the other is Weslie's mother/ Wolffy's wife.
- There's also an episode where Weslie disguises himself as Wolnie, kisses Wolffy on the cheek, and demands he kiss him back.
- Weslie also has the tendency to affectionately call Grey Wolf "Mr. Wolffy"; other male goats are prone to doing this too.
- He even did it one episode while patting him on the head.
- Their Chinese VAs even voiced a romance film together... using Wolffy's and Weslie's voices in a gag dub.
Wolffy: I love you, Weslie.
- In one of the show's titlecards, Sparky carries Wolnie bridalstyle. In another card, Wolffy wakes up only to see Sparky next to him in bed.
- During their "Freaky Friday" Flip, Wolffy (in Sparky's body) dabs at Sparky (in Wolffy's body) with a handkerchief, warning him to take care of the body. Cue Sparky blushing and looking strangely sheepish.
- Mr. Slowy has a dream where Wolffy pulled a Heel–Face Turn and pinned him to the ground, while licking his face. Dream!Slowy's response?
Mr. Slowy: Stop it! Stop it! You're showing too much love!- Wolffy's relationship with his cousin, Yeh Tai Lung/ Night Wolf can arguably be based entirely on this; the two are repeatedly competing for the position of pack leader, will betray one another at a moment's notice, etc. and yet his cousin keeps freeloading at his home.
- There's an episode where Wolffy returns home only to be shot with nerf guns by the whole pack.
- Doesn't help that Wolffy and Night Wolf have been placed in the same scene, surrounded by shojo roses and glittering bubbles at least twice, whenever Night Wolf acts friendly to his cousin.
- In one episode, Wolffy runs out his door, ready to kiss Night Wolf, thinking he's Wolnie.
- Wolffy and the whole damn pack once. Upset at his gaining the position of pack leader, they proceed to pin him to the ground, while one of them strokes his chin. Needless to say, that was a very strange position they were in.
- In an episode where Paddi decided to become a girl (this didn't last), he cross-dressed and after getting caught by Wolffy, attempts to flirt his way out by saying "Mr. Wolffy, you wouldn't want to eat a cute goat like me," while batting his eyelashes. The wolves were pretty squicked.
- Then there was the episode where he and Wolffy walked into the sunset together, arms hooked together.
- Heck, Wolffy tried to lick him more than once. He's always calling Paddi the most delicious.
- Brother Tai and Wolffy had this in episode 3 of the 3rd season. While Tai was beating up Wolffy, the Tigress Teacher/Sister Tigress, who believed he had stood her uo saw the scene and since Wolffy disguised himself as a female, she kept imagining Tai as outright groping and making out with Wolffy. Then comes this line from her: "You don't like tigers! You like wolves!"
- Wilie's and Little Fragrant's relationship starts out as this only on her part.
openUnsure what to do about a deleted entry
The Deliberate Values Dissonance for Stand Still, Stay Silent underwent a few changes recently. One of them is that someone deleted the following entry:
- Due to having given no sign of life in decades, non-Nordic countries are largely ignored in the Encyclopedia Exposita. The language tree
, which is the most world-spanning document, still only mentions languages that share a family with Icelandic, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish or Finnish. The scene in the antique shop that has Mikkel the only member of the crew correctly naming Mandarin also gives a fairly good idea of the level of knowledge that remains about China and presumably Asia in general.
Part of the premise of the work is that a handful of countries have been isolated from the rest of the world for ninety years, so I see how the entry may seem redundant.
However when it comes to the work's interaction with the Internet, "hey, what about the other countries in the world?" has, at least historically, been a recurring angle of Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch. The one time it got true Internet Backdraft (a few months before I found out it existed), it was due to a Cross-Cultural Kerfluffle, itself part of a gag that relied on some of the characters being very ignorant about China. This was spite of the fact that the average person in-universe would have absolutely no reason to know anything about China unless it was part of their job or a personal interest.
Because of this, I, at least personally, get the feeling that the isolated situation of the main contries and what it means for the average person's education in-universe still needs to be spelled out somewhere on the work's page and that Deliberate Values Dissonance is a good place to mention it.
While the entry on the main Stand Still, Stay Silent page is gone, its equivalent on the Deliberate Values Dissonance page was still there last time I checked.
My question for group wisdom is: should I keep the entry out of both pages, restore it on the main Stand Still, Stay Silent as is, or change it in some way on both pages?
Edited by NazetrimeopenWant to ask this in hopes of preventing an EditWar Videogame
So, in Unbuilt Trope I recently added the example of how Resident Evil 4 codified the Press X to Not Die trope and how it mainly existed to play up the Survival Horror elements and keep the player on their toes during cutscenes.
However, not a day later I checked back and see someone had replaced Resident Evil 4 with Clock Tower in the example. I don't want to change it, mainly because I never played Clock Tower myself so I can't say anything.
Can anyone verify if it's a better example for this trope or should be reverted back? Since I don't know anything about Clock Tower I don't want to get into a possible edit war over this. All I really know is that Press X to Not Die didn't really take off until RE4 did it, even if other examples existed earlier.
openNamine character subpage
So, Namine has her own characters subpage despite having only 55 tropes (for a character page, that's not very many). No other Kingdom Hearts character has their own page other than Sora himself (who has 230+ tropes), not even Xehanort and Xigbar. Xigbar (another franchise-important character) has like 90 tropes under his character profile and 34 more tropes under a character in Kingdom Hearts χ that is revealed in Kingdom Hearts III to also be Xigbar, leading to a total of 120+ tropes for Xigbar.
So that led me to ask some questions before trying to do anything about it.
Should Namine's character page be merged into a different subpage? Or can Xigbar have his own subpage? Is trope count alone a sufficient criterion?
(Sorry for asking this in ATT, I posted here because previously I got reported to ATT for a badly-received subpage reorganization of mine regarding Transformers, and today I got reported to the anti-complaining thread after some people did not like another of my earlier subpage reorganizations, namely regarding Dan Browned, Cowboy BeBop at His Computer, and Critical Research Failure.)
Edited by Albert3105openMuse YMMV Cleanup
Saw this here, thought it should be removed:
Wake-Up Call Boss: Hysteria for the Rock Smith series. There are harder songs, but that's pretty much the Gate between someone who's learning to play bass, and a true bassist.
Another entry that is too say... controversional.
- Critical Research Failure: Muse use the second law of thermodynamics to warn us how our current system is unsustainable. While the idea that our current system is unsustainable is true, comparing earth to the law of entropy backfires because earth is not a closed system, it is constantly receiving dust from space and energy from the sun. - - The entropy does not literally refer to planet earth, rather to the destruction of human society, which as is pointed out above, is a closed system. Basically; human society is destroying itself and will be eventually reduced to nothing, or "entropy".
In fact, I feel like the whole YMMV page needs a bit of a checkup.
openMan of a Thousand Voices
Why is Man of a Thousand Voices, which is specifically about voice actors, not Trivia? The related Talking To Himself is.
openStory I read
I’ve read this story called “The Iron Life”. It’s a self insert fanfic story about a guy who gets sent to the world of Young Justice and becomes DC’s Iron Man. It has some grammar errors but a good story that I enjoy in my opinion. Could someone do a tv tropes page on it? I’m curious on what tropes would be involved especially for the characters.
Edited by JoJo123open More modern "Prisoner" style movie Film
Over 10 years ago I saw this movie that I have been trying to track down. It was kind of a modern take on that old show the prisoner. The guy was a spy or something and gets injured on a mission and when he wakes up is on an island where they can't leave. They have to check in with a blood sample every morning. Ultimately he recovers from his wounds ans starts planning his escape. I remember this one scene where he is using cigarettes burning beside the tube to train him self to hold his breath longer. Ultimately he escape on one of the supply airplane drop/pickups...
openCreating an article for your own creation
Hello. I was just wondering on the policy of creating a page for a media article you created? Fanfiction, to be exact. I realize it could be self-promoting, so I was just wondering. Thank you.
open Creator page on questionable persons
So I recently found out that we are hosting a creators page on Emily Youcis. That woman is one of THE most prolific members of the Alt-Right. She is an anti-semite, a white nationalist, a Female Misogynist and a proud, self-described Nazi. I mean if you really wanna know (and I advise you not to), you can check her out on the racist Twitter equivalent Gab and see what kind of twisted things she espouses. I already saw in the history that, in the past, the page was open about her political affiliation, but that it got cut out and locked. I submitted her page for cutting yesterday, but it got denied. Do we really want to give a person like that a (indirect) plattform here? Would we lose anything of merit if we'd cut her page? I mean, we cut Alex Jones too.
Edited by ForenperseropenRadio / True Capitalist probably should be purged like the Alex Jones page Radio
First of all, what he does is not a persona. He really means what he says. Second of all, he has been banned from Gab for hate speech, specifically death threats. He will tell you himself that that was the reason. https://web.archive.org/web/20190121192457/https://ghost.report/2018/12/13/message-from-ghost-is-it-the-last/
open Troper with an agenda Web Original
apm483@gmail.com
has made some edits that seem hostile towards non-binary people.
They added the following under Hype Backlash on YMMV.Gen Lock:
- Speaking of All-Star Cast, some backlash were given due to the casting of "non-binary" Asia Kate Dillon as Valentina. This is despite Valentina xirself is "genderfluid" like Asia is.
And they also commented out the following example on Awesome.Gen Lock:
With the edit reason:
openPossible Real Life Example?
Doing a cleanup binge and came across Wreckless Media Radio. The ZC Es that were there aside, I want to ask about this example:
- Karma Houdini:
- Corpolongo once made a mess in a bar because the girl working there cut him off. He walked out afterwards with practically no problems. Being a bartender himself must have helped.
- The guys got a person hit by a car by challenging his faith. They still haven't been caught.
- Evil Greg allegedly is the reason a truck of Crown Royal crashed and exploded... because he was doing parkour.
Karma Houdini is tagged as NRLEP. The third one is most definitely just a character, and I would hope the second one is, but what about the first? I don't know this podcast, so I'd appreciate some input.
openZero content
I may have gone on a rampage a little bit when editing the Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles character page but there were some many entries that were like half assed and a few that were okay but still needed a little more info. For example these two: Am I wrong that I think there should be more than that in the entry? I'm sorry that I keep second guessing myself but I have been on this site for years so I know that Zero content is a prevalent problem and I don't want to be wrong.
openStrike Witches YMMV page Anime
Just noticed that the broken base section of strike witches has a massive paragraph that, to my knowledge, belongs in base breaking character and also has a ton of natter. I genuinely think it should be cleaned up. The section I refer to is:
However as far as Hikari goes their has been some occasional disengagements of wither she is an actually good, fleshed out character in her own right that is distinct from Yoshika or if she's just "Yoshika 2.0" (the latter group seems to have mostly died off post release of Brave Witches and even even those few hold outs are as visible and seem to not have sufficient thesis to back such claims up). An additional point of contention with fans is wither Yoshika herself actually is or isn't a Mary Sue. Those who argue she isn't is due to the fact that while Yoshika's magic powers are of greater potential then average; they were unrefined and untrained and Yoshika was faced with sufficient challenges and had to work hard to improve her control of her magic and training as air infantry to become as competent and then as badass as the rest of the 501st, as well as the fact that nothing about Yoshika's magic was not outside of the the ordinary or expected of witches magic in the series. Those who claim she is a Mary Sue argue more to her idealistic personality and the fact her magic returned to her by the end of the movie; however the former tends to be a rather dubious argument and a counterargument to the latter is that witches are known to experience draining of their magical stamina whenever they exert themselves and their magic and thus require time to recuperate with food,water and rest and only older witches seem to experience various degrees of magical entropy or outright loss; and given that at the end of Season 2 Yoshika was still in her prime magically speaking and used a magical sword technique that she barely had enough proper sword training for and how no real magical training done for; it caused her to do the magical equivalent of pulling a muscle and needed a much longer period of time to recover the magical stamina, and likely didn't have a chance to test her magic recovery by the time movie came around until the very end in a serious crisis situation and feeling the inspired desire to fly with her friends again.
Edited by RAHDRON

Could Chekovs Gun be made a red link?
It was originally made as a joke about misspellings of Chekhov's Gun. Eddie himself unilaterally vetoed cutting it or moving or redirecting it to Just for Fun.
The problem is, as long as it's a blue link, people can't catch misspellings. There's a bunch of incorrect links on its related page.