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openCreating a Folder for a Personal Profile
So, do any of you know how to create a folder for a personal profile? I've already typed up info about myself on my personal profile. Now, I want to create folders so I can list the stuff I like. I would appreciate some help and thank you in advance.
openOld page that hasn't flourished
Self Propelled Barrier Of Stupidity has a grand total of four examples and three wicks. I also suspect it's covered by another stupidity trope. It's name is terrible in any case.
The thing is the edit history goes back to 2011. There's no YKTTW attached, but it existed before the restructuring, so I don't know if it had a draft.
Would the crash rescue thread be the place to bring it up?
Edited by DracMonsteropen Esoteric Happy Ending example? Film
"* Frozen ends on a supposedly happy note with Anna and Elsa finally reunited after 13 years of separation, Elsa learning to feel again and learn to control her powers, and the citizens completely adoring their new queen of Arendelle. However, even though Anna and Elsa do reconcile with each other, it still doesn't change the fact that they lost all the potential childhood they could have with each other for nothing and due to not knowing the other during that time, they are essentially complete strangers and have to restart their relationship completely from scratch, particularly when things are so much more complicated in their adulthood than they do as children which makes a close bond between them uncertain. There also the fact that even though Elsa managed to control her powers through love, depression and trauma doesn't really go away overnight and due to having spent a really long time in isolation, it would only be time before she reverts to her old habits again, especially since Anna has never been informed the reason why Elsa isolated herself in the first place meaning that even her sister wouldn't be able to help her from depression. Furthermore, a sudden change in weather and an Endless Winter for three days must surely brought some casualties for the citizens either by hypothermia or famine and given the fact that the queen's response to the whole thing is to abandon her kingdom, she certainly doesn't make a good first impression in front of the citizen and would likely have a lot of people out for her blood compared to Hans whose first action as the new king is to them blanket for cover and is supposedly trying to execute the witch for the goodness of the kingdom. It's also been established that Weselton is Arendelle's largest trading partner and by having Elsa cut all ties, it leaves the kingdom hard-pressed to find another close trading partner and given Elsa's actions during the coronation, it is very unlikely that other kingdoms would even trust their new queen to open up a new trading partner, leaving the kingdom in great turmoil. Realistically, it could actually take years, if not decades for them to fix almost all the issues listed above and it is very likely that another trouble could prove even more irrepairable damage on both the kingdom and the sister's relationship. On another issue, Hans being sent back to his family is supposed to be seen as merciful fate where everyone agree that its for his best except that by sending him back home, he is sent back to his abusive family where they would undoubtedly bully him even more, with the implication that he will never be able to escape from his terrible life, unlike Anna."
Is this an example or people reading way too into things?
Edited by lalalei2001openWhat an Idiot Extension
Long story short, I'm writing an entry about a character who is so ludicrously poor at self preservation (and diplomacy) he makes Leeroy Jenkins himself look downright prudent. So at one point, one of his insanely counterproductive actions has something happen that could have ended in disaster (Well, it did end in disaster, but after that point) but didn't. I want to mention it, but putting it in the as a result section seems cluttered. So what's the extension where their actions results in, among several of the other bad things happening, one thing that could have gone wrong but did not?
open Ghetto: Where does its use (as in Animation Age Ghetto, etc.) to refer to media stigmas originate? Western Animation
Apologies if this is in the wrong place; I'm not a regular user here, and the Trope Talk forum doesn't want to let me make a new topic in it for some reason. :( Stuck this question in Western Animation simply because the Animation Age Ghetto is the most widespread version of this trope to my knowledge.
So this has been a tricky one for me. I've been trying to search up the exact origin of when exactly "ghetto" used to refer specifically to media, entertainment, fiction etc. was first used.
The most well-known and oft-used definition of the word "ghetto" by your average person is, of course, to refer to an impoverished physical community consisting of members of the same minority group. It's often slung around these days as a snide derogatory slur toward black people and/or the poor, though the term originated in reference to a Jewish community within a city (the word did not gain overtones of "inferiority" or "low class" until WWII, if my information is correct).
Where in the world did this word make the jump from "poor minority neighborhood" to "media relegated to niche audiences because of a culturally ingrained perceived lack of maturity, value or mass appeal"?
I can see where someone might make the correlation, but I'm a little baffled as to when it started picking up. All of the sources I search for just point me back to TV Tropes, but only to the trope pages in their current form—I can't find a trope naming discussion for the life of me. There is the occasional conversation clarifying usage of tropes including "ghetto" in this site's archives, but nothing I can find on the origin of this usage of the term itself.
The earliest usage I can seem to find that uses "ghetto" in reference to any sort of media specifically is Kaz Hirai talking about the PSP in 2005 during a conference: "Some have said that the PSP is our answer to the (Nintendo) Game Boy. Well, here’s how we view the world: PSP will elevate portable entertainment out of the handheld gaming ghetto and Sony is the only company that can do it. We happily accept this challenge and, dare I say it, the baton has been passed."
Is this where the word "ghetto" as used to describe mediums and genres in the Ghetto Index got its start? Would it be accurate to say that Hirai coined this usage of the term, or was it established earlier? Or is Hirai's usage of the term irrelevant, and TV Tropes users either got the usage from elsewhere, or came up with this usage of the word "ghetto" on their own?
Help would be appreciated, thank you!
Edited by satchelkopenSome anvils needed to be dropped Western Animation
Are these examples on the YMMV.Jem page examples of Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped? The Jem pages in general have a lot of Weasel Words.
"**In Video Wars, Video explains that her career as a filmmaker is quite difficult, since she has to constantly work hard at maintaining her success. Despite everything, she doesn't give up on it and loves her work. This wasn't presented in an over-the-top, ridiculous sort of aesop, nor was it even the main message of the episode, but it acts as a nice way to tell kids that having careers and jobs are never easy, but if you love what you do and keep at it, it's all worth it. The show itself seems to be an example of that message; disregarding the animation, the staff obviously put a lot of effort into the characters and gave them distinct personalities, as well as working hard on the writing, music and fashion (seriously, though; how often do you see cartoon characters in different outfits? And if so, how many are so intricately designed?)
"**With the exception of Eric Raymond, Techrat, and Zipper, the writers made it a point that neither the Misfits or the Stingers were pure evil and had their soft sides (especially Stormer), and that there was a reason why they were like that. The Holograms weren't pure and had their flaws. This seems to say that people have multiple aspects to their personalities, and that even so-called perfect people have their hang-ups, and the worst offender might not be so bad given the chance. "
Edited by lalalei2001openBlatant self-plug alert
enyeknot
seems to have joined here just to plaster links to their site for game guides everywhere.
openFlaming alert Live Action TV
CrazyMinh's
edits consists mostly of long-winded rants against Star Trek Discovery, and one case of self-promotion (I don't know if it's acceptable, but it doesn't follow the page's format). I removed their paragraph on Fanon Discontinuity (aside from flaming and claiming the voice of a whole fandom, they had erased a line and merged together two sets of examples). They have left long rants on the Headscratchers page, but I'm not sure about removing them outright. I'd like them to be officially warned about this at least.
openTroping Music Videos Music
Should tropes that occur in music videos (but not the song itself) still be listed in the Music section of a trope page?
openKings Quest 2015 Videogame
There are huuuuuuuuge, nattery, too-detailed lists on King's Quest (2015) pages to the point that deleting them frees up a ton of room, and every reference to the old games is added to the page as they happen. Plus there's losing sight of the original trope or not fitting the trope.
Examples include under Chaos Architecture, Broad Strokes, Continuity Nod, Deconstruction, and Unreliable Narrator. and a mistaken trivia entry for Alternate Continuity used to have a terrifyingly long list until I deleted it when putting it back on the main page. I can add it back if you guys want.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=VideoGame.KingsQuest2015
Should I delete the lengthy entries entirely while giving a generalized example, IE "* Continuity Nod: There's lots of name drops and nods to material from the classic games, and even The King's Quest Companions, thrown in as fun references for old time fans who might be keeping track. Some of these nods include 'alternate' visual adaptations of the box art from the original series, while others include specific creatures and events that are non-canon in this series." or move them to a new page?
EDIT: These entries on the YMMV page are suspect too.
" Protagonist-Centered Morality: The game falls into this with the way Graham treats his two grandchildren. Graham is the hero, so anything he does is more or less indicated to be okay - including the fact that he clearly favors his granddaughter Gwen over his grandson Gart, to the point that he names her his heir, making her Queen of Daventry when he dies. This is despite Gart being the older grandchild, and the one who actually lives in Daventry with his grandfather. Gart himself is given a few minor character flaws, while Gwen isn't shown to have any; she becomes the player character in the epilogue of the game, meaning that she has apparently also inherited Graham's Protagonist Centered Morality. "
"Vocal Minority: When the first chapter was released, the reaction was positive for the most part, but those who didn't like it were much louder than those who did.
- There are/were people who believe it was made with money stolen from the Hiveswap Kickstarter and were very displeased with this. There's no proof as far as we know; Andrew Hussie himself has said he can't take legal action and has tried to keep angry Homestuck fans from doing anything. "
openLiterature/Molesworth Literature
molesworth... The entire page reads like a Self-Demonstrating article. Said self demonstrating includes a ton a grammar and spelling errors. The Fanfic Recs and Trivia pages have the same problem.
openPositive quotes about Don Bluth
I noticed that every single quote on Quotes.Don Bluth that isn't from Bluth himself is something negative about him and his work. Does anyone know where we can find some positive quotes about him?
I was thinking one of Doug Walker's videos, whether from his Real Thoughts on Bluth's films, or a Nostalgia Critic review.
openCreating Work Pages for Valiant Comic Series? Print Comic
I've been trying to create work pages for the various Valiant Comics series that have sprung up, but find myself stymied by those titles where the series was completely overhauled between its original 90's version and the modern version (for instance, Secret Weapons, where the original was about the company's heavy-hitters, but the modern version is the exact opposite, or Doctor Mirage, where the premise has changed considerably from the original.) Should I have both series on one work page, or separate them by some criteria?
open Unknown Cartoon needs to be found Western Animation
Hello, there's a cartoon that I saw as a random GIF on a random GIF site, there was a site full of GI Fs and I found it randomly because I wanted to find something else (You know how the internet is...) But I found something interesting there though:
There was a cool GIF (Seems to be from a cartoon, I am not sure too.) With a little cute boy about 10 or 14 years old wearing a patch on his cheek, he was blonde- albino with big eyelashed ocean-blue eyes, also he seemed to sit with his elbow on the table very bored near a fried chicken, but he was too bored to eat it. It seemed to be a Russian GIF because it's title was in Russian, I copy pasted it on Google Search and there was also Google Translate saying that the respective text's meaning was ,, boy", lol. I knew already that he's a boy, so obvious but i wanted to know at least his name to search the cartoon, I actually wanted the title of the cartoon itself but it was nowhere to be seen. By the way, there's a hint, he looked like Ciel Phantomhive from Black Butler but blonde and a bit more realistic but still very similar, same expression, feminine face, same hairstyle, thin female-like eyebrows, cat lips, big eyes and he was also blinking and his eyelashes were ,, dancing". Also it seemed to be an older cartoon, does anyone know? i really liked the design, I hope it's plot isn't a shit like Black Butler's one.
openedit war about expy
30 may, Pichu-kun introduced an entry about the protagonists of the remakes of Pokemon Yellow, Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! in Characters.Pokemon Protagonists And Rivals. In the entry, they included the following:
- Expy: He bares a resemblance to Red's original design but also bares a striking resemblance to Ash in the anime.
I removed this with the following edit reason: "Ash himself is blatantly the protagonist of the original games(his design is based in design of the protagonist of the original games, he uses one of his default names and the series started as an adaptation of the original games)."
Pichu-kun added the entry back with "Adding back the entry because the new protagonist is an expy of both Red and Ash" as edit reason.
openHow to write a good self-demonstrating article? Western Animation
I was planning to write a Self-Demonstrating Article for the obscure character Lightning Bolt the Super Squirrel, who appeared in two episodes of Tom & Jerry Kids and two episodes of its Spin-Off Droopy, Master Detective.
The only problem is, I've no idea how to write a good one.
I'd appreciate it if anyone could help!
openUNINTENTIONALLY UNSYMPATHETIC MISUSE?
From ''Harry Potter":
- Base-Breaking Character example: certain members of the Weasley family can come off as this for the fans that feel they're major Creators Pets.
- Fred and George fall into this category for some, who find their Naughty Is Good mentality and propensity for playing often destructive pranks as more indicative of amoral bullies than carefree pranksters. This reached a crux in, yet again, Order of the Phoenix, where a prank they play on one of Professor Umbridge's minions nearly - albeit accidentally - kills the unfortunate schmuck in question. There's also the fact that after leaving school, the joke shop they open explicitly makes most of its money from love potions, which are presented in the narrative as being like magical Date Rape drugs (a comparison Dumbledore makes explicitly).
- Ron comes off as this for the fans that find his flaws annoying rather than sympathetic or likable. His self-righteous attitude, tendency to get easily jealous (to the point that he turned his back on Harry in the fourth book, and then abandoned Harry and Hermione in the middle of the seventh book over the locket), and his lazy attitude towards working in general (while bemoaning his status as the Can't Catch Up Butt-Monkey) have only added on to this. The films just exacerbate this, since nearly all of his heroic moments from the books were either removed or given to Hermione instead, turning him into The Load and leaving viewers questioning just what his good qualities were supposed to be in the first place.
- Molly can be this for the fans that find her shrill, demanding and annoying. The implication that she wanted a daughter so badly that she kept popping out kids until she got one (leaving Ron feeling like The Un-Favorite) also hasn't helped her case. Then there's her treatment of Hermione in the fourth book when she buys into the lies Rita Skeeter is publishing about her.
- Ginny also comes off this way due to her personality completely changing from the second book to the sixth and Harry's extremely sudden, poorly-written feelings for her. In the fifth book Harry is worried because he can see what Voldemort is doing and lashes out at his friends. Ginny basically tells him to shut up because she was possessed by Tom Riddle in the second book and isn't complaining about it, but Ginny herself admits that she doesn't remember what she was doing during those periods. Combined with her bossy, aggressive nature and the fact she's never shown to be in the wrong leads her to coming off very insufferable and bratty.
The Base-Breaking part suggest it's not universal enough to count. Fred and George were commented out "because none of their pranks ever killed anyone. The prank in question mentioned here was shoving someone into a broken Vanishing Cabinet. The kid was not in danger of dying until HE decided to get himself out of limbo by Apparating without having a license." Ron and Molly weren't supposed to be sympathetic for those flaws, with Ron regretting the former. Ginny's possibly valid example has nothing to do with "her personality completely changing from the second book to the sixth and Harry's extremely sudden, poorly-written feelings for her", making it seem like complaining.
Should I cut or revise any of them? I'd bring this to the Unintentionally Unsympathetic Cleanup
but they still haven't replied to my last inquiry.
openWhich Title Should Be Used? Anime
Over the weekend I created a page for a manga, Manga.O Inari JK Tamamo Chan, and used its unofficial English title, Manga.High School Inari Tamamo Chan, as a redirect.
Overnight a troper came in and flipped that, making High School Inari the page and O-Inari JK the redirect.
I actually have no personal issue with this, as I prefer the English title. However, the English title is not an official title. The series hasn't been released in English that I could find so Inari High School Girl is primarily a translation of the Japanese title.
I remember a question like this coming up for another page I made and wanted to double check before I acted. My question on this matter: Does it matter if the page uses the English title over the Japanese one if there isn't an official English title to use?
I originally set it up the way I did because How to Create a Work's Page states "if the work doesn't have an officially-translated English title, you can use the non-English title for the main page and make the English translation into a redirect instead." but is that a hard and fast rule we must do it that way? The wording makes it sound optional.
If it doesn't matter either way I'll let the matter drop because, again, I have no problem with it myself. If it's preferred and/or required though I'd like a consensus or something official I could point to for reverting it before I contact the other troper or otherwise act.
Thank you in advance.
Edited by sgamer82openRegarding Website/Pixiv search tags. Web Original
It seems that after applying links for the Pixiv work page's "troped tags" section, the search tag function doesn't seem to work in Pixiv because all the Japanese texts are automatically converted to unicode, nor can the tags be linked to Pixiv dictionary. It's not just mine, but it also happens to other links. Is there anything I can do? Or should all the listed tropes be converted into only about the site itself?
Edited by Mhazard

Okay, I know awesome and comedy are supposed to subjective, but...
In YMMV.The Butterfly Effect, under Crosses the Line Twice, there's an entry that says Evan going back in time to kill himself as an fetus is unintentionally hilarious and awesome. Also, in Awesome.The Butterfly Effect, there's a whole entry that goes into detail about just why said event is so awesome.
This just seems... wrong. It's not just me, is it?
Edited by ChaoticQueen