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open Late 1980’s or Early 1990’s Animated Easter Special Western Animation
I saw it only once when I was around 8 or 9. I remember watching it at Easter time sometime between 1993 and 1996. It was an Easter cartoon special, not reoccurring TV show with an Easter themed episode. I don’t think it was a full-length movie, although it could have been. If it was a movie, it was never in theaters. All I can remember is there we’re talking farm or woodland animals. One of those animals was a rabbit, he seemed to be the central/most memorable animal character. I want to say it took place on or near a farm. There was a boy on the farm. He was the protagonist along with the talking animals. I don’t know if the boy and animals talked to each other, but the animals talked to one another. The antagonist was a machine or robotic type being I remember. I remembered that the machine/robot somehow hurt the boy, or defeated him somehow. The boy was on the ground hurt, and I remembered how bad I felt and how much I hated that evil robot machine villain thing. The animals were devastated and were on the boy’s side when this happened. I don’t remember what happened at th end, or how everything turned out for the boy and the animals. I want to say that th annals somehow saved the boy from the machine villain but I can’t distinctly remember how that happened. I have always connected the memory of this animated TV special with Easter time, and Easter themed, though I have no memory of the show itself besides the taking rabbit to associate to Easter specifically. I’ve been struggling with this memory and wanting to know what it is I remembered after all these years. I know I remember the way it made me feel the most. Maybe that’s the reason I can’t let it go, and I need to know more. I’ve been struggling with this for 15+ years. Anything would help! Thank you!
Edited by Sugarcoated1102openWeird deletion for Kirby Star Allies Videogame
On the Kirby - Bosses and Villains page about Hyness, this was deleted
- Vile Villain, Saccharine Show: His abusiveness towards his own followers is bad enough, but wanting to see the entire universe destroyed by resurrecting a God of Evil? Yeah, the Kirby series being a generally happy, idealistic, and cute franchise full of Affably Evil characters, Tragic Villains with sympathetic backstories, and Generic Doomsday Villains makes him really stand out and hold the dubious honor of being the darkest most evil villain in the franchise itself, with none of the redeeming traits that flesh out most of the villains in the games.
Pretty sure the trope fits, but someone did a big revert edit that deleted most of the added tropes when there was no reason to. The name of the user is King Ghost.
May I add this back?
Edited by ReynTime250openUnfortunate Implications for a Dictatorship?
On The Hitman's Bodyguard, I found an Unfortunate Implications entry regarding the film's depiction of Belarus as a violent dictatorship. The thing is, Belarus is recognized by many countries and organizations as a dictatorship and the entry itself points it out. The citation is from a Russian review, and the entry also points out that Russians are sympathetic to the Belarus dictatorship. Since the "implication" here is that Belarus is a dictatorship, should this entry be cut? Here's the entry:
- Unfortunate Implications: Not surprisingly, supporters of the actual Belorussian dictatorship, including some Russian reviewers
treated the Belorussian origin of the dictator, the participation of Russian actors and explicit references to left nationalists of Eastern Europe as insulting and evoking politically biased.
openSelf-Demonstrating Articles
How do I create one for a character? I'm sorry if this is a pretty basic question, but it's still one I really wanna know. Editing pages is nice, but I kind of feel like making my own would be fun. SD pages are Just for Fun, aren't they?
Edited by FurtiveTerzelopenRWBY in Stuffed into the Fridge, Stuffed into the Fridge as a whole Western Animation
There seems to be some debating whether Pyrrha's death in RWBY counts as being Stuffed into the Fridge. I personally don't think it does, but to avoid the edit war I'm going to bring it here. As a side note this might also bring up problems with the trope page itself, considering it has seemingly contradicting definitions of the trope in the first few sentences; being first defined as having a character be left for a dead body to find, then more broadly defined as any time a character sees their loved one die. The former is a clearly defined trope with a history, the latter is awfully general to the point where a character that dies of old age in front of a loved one could arguably considered being Stuffed into the Fridge.
openThe 20th Century, Part 2
Continuing from HERE
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I originally meant for the page for The 20th Century to be an index, but due to Julian Lapostat's eloquent Wall of Text edits, it almost looks like a Useful Notes page, which was not supposed to. I had a disclaimer to keep it brief, which Julian missed the point, to put it bluntly. I'm still debating myself on whether I should turn it into a Useful Note or keep it as an index.
On another note, I trimmed much of his edits that were wordy and redundant, but I could only do much. There are some sentences and paragraphs that I couldn't abridge due to how complex the wording is. So, to be short and honest, can anyone help me shorten the description to be Clear Concise And Witty?
Edited by alnair20aug93openFreewareGames has games that appear in two sections... And the page is indexed...
Freeware Games has games that appear in two sections... And the page is indexed, so that brings possible problems.
Save The Date is in Multi-Platform Interactive Fiction, and Multi-Platform Visual Novels, so when looking from the game's page, it places itself in the earlier appearance, but not the later one.
Is this a problem, and if so, what solutions should there be? Splitting the page off into types of games? Or what?
openNeed Mediation
Hi, guys. On the Transgender Fetishization discussion page
, Tropers.Nebulous Violet seems determined to remove any reference to the idea that the trope can be received or portrayed positively, because it's a (historically negative) stereotype of trans people.
To save time here, I'll just copy the summary of disagreements I had:
- You believe that just because the trope Positive Discrimination has "positive" in the name that it's supposed to be seen as good. As I keep repeatedly saying, that is not true. Read the description of the trope.
- You are disregarding the golden rule of Tropes Are Tools. Tropes, even if they are historically negative or call attention to a "flaw" in a work, cannot be treated as inherently bad on this wiki. We must portray the trope itself as neutral, and only trope any negatives if those negatives are evident in the work itself.
openWrong namespace?
It says that Literature.Worm is a Web Serial Novel which itself is a subgenre of Web Original. Shouldn't it go under WebOriginal.Worm then? I don't know the work at all.
openMLP the Movie cleanup
Saw this on What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?.Film and... it's just silly. (And what does Robbie Rotten have to do with anything?)
- My Little Pony: The Movie (2017): Between the multiple examples of Getting Crap Past the Radar, a Downer Beginning with scary petrification, an Implied Death Threat, a Not-So-Safe Harbor where the heroes were almost Made a Slave, a depressing sequence of Canterlot's population enslaved, drowning (Robbie Rotten lampshades it here
), a severe Plot-Mandated Friendship Failure, a severe Disney Death (almost on par with Disney itself), and a Family-Unfriendly Disney Villain Death, it's easy for parents to wonder if this movie is appropriate for young children.
openSelf Demonstrating... isn't?
First-Person Smartass is written in... first and second person? There shouldn't be an audience to address in first-person narration, right?
openBadly-made work page Literature
This page seems very inappropriately made. The issue of self-promotion aside, it contains many instances of This Troper, use of first person and a fair amount of Natter. Anyone familiar with the work care to do some clean-up?
Edited by LogoPopenThinking of Removing the Alternative Character part from Lady Gaga's YMMV
Besides the "Donatella" example, all of them are about the Creator herself, which I know is definitely not allowed.
open Cardboard
Is there a trope for replacing yourself with a fake? Like having a stand-in cardboard cutout, or a dummy in place of the person? I can think of several tv shows where that's used, and it's a gag that somebody doesn't realize that's a phony version of the guy. If this is already a trope, I don't know what it's named.
openTombRaider and alternate continuities?
I've just made this edit to Tomb Raider, changing :
- Alternate Continuity: The Crystal Dynamics games are set in a completely different continuity to the Core Design games. Same for the movie and the comic book series (and there are three different continuities for comics, too). The Square Enix game is set in yet another alternate continuity. Into exactly what continuities the assorted gaiden games fall is up for debate. There are also books and animated series - all of them set in different continuity, often mutually exclussive.
- For a while, two game continuities were running alongside; the Second Crystal Dynamics series has a sequel in Rise of the Tomb Raider, and the first Crystal Dynamic's series getting a followup (sort of) in Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris.
to:
- Alternate Continuity: There are at least six different canons within the franchise.
- First off, is the 1996-2003, or "Original Continuity".
- Then there's the Crystal Dynamics, which is a Continuity Reboot.
- The Core Design games continuity
- Then the Square Enix era, which takes elements from the Crystal Dynamics and Core Design, forming a new continuity of its own which takes the original in Broad Strokes.
- For a while, two game continuities were running alongside; the Second Crystal Dynamics series has a sequel in Rise of the Tomb Raider, and the first Crystal Dynamic's series getting a followup (sort of) in Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris.
- The movie with Angelina Jolie is its own one-shot, self-contained continuity.
- Then there's the comic-book adaptations, which have three continuities, running alongside one another.
- Finally, there's the 2018 Continuity Reboot, starring AliciaVikander which goes back to basics and abandons all previous continuities for a clean-slate reboot.
I'm checking to ensure this makes sense - I'm doing a wick check of this trope and trying to give every entry where Alternate Continuity is used a bit more detail so that readers can tell how it is an Alternate Continuity to the original.
Edited by Merseyuser1openFranchise Original Sin - Final Fantasy
Tropers.Another Duck removed a large section of the FranchiseOriginalSin.Final Fantasy page, for reasons that I dispute.
His edit reason was: "This isn't a flaw that's been exaggerated or left unchecked in later games. It's always been there, and overall character design has been a positive trait of the series."
The two of us then disputed this in P Ms and got nowhere. I'll try to summarize the arguments.
Firstly, the second point he raises is something I argued against with cited examples of journalists, editorials, forum posts, and comments which hold mostly negative opinions on the series' character designs from FFX and beyond. Naturally, FF is a very widespread series, so you'll always have people who disagree, but the onset of complaints en masse didn't start until FFX. Duck retorted this by saying that he could also find links of dissenting opinion to refute me, but when I asked that he do so, he refused for lack of time.
On the second point, I explained that the reason the issue about character design was overlooked in previous games is because in-game graphics did not match the design of the characters due to technical limitations. When the hardware caught up to the art in FFX, that's where the complaints started. He replied "The artwork of FFVII and FFVIII, for instance, isn't that detailed, and it's reasonably accurately represented in the FM Vs. The artwork of the games prior to that, including the character portraits, is far more detailed" which, again, is addressed in the example itself. Tetsuya Nomura's original art style was specifically chosen to be simple because of the graphical limitations of the PSX console, but in later games, he went much more heavily into detail because the hardware could keep up. Incidentally, this is also why people have complained about his REDESIGNS of the FFVII and FFVIII characters in the remakes, sequels or spin-offs such as Kingdom Hearts.
He then asked me whether or not the issue in question "overshadowed" other aspects of the game, and said that the Laconic's wording means those aspects must be "overshadowed". I said that I don't agree with his interpretation of either definition, to which he called my argument "semantics", and when I disagreednote Because he is literally making a semantic argument., he told me "I get the impression you don't understand what 'semantics' means".
Edited by NubianSatyressopen Please help me find this show
There’s this show I watched when I was younger and it’s about a boy who moved with his dad to a small town and I remember the opening scene had them pulling up to the town sign at it was graffitied and changed and that was the name of the show.There was another scene where he was playing basketball with other teens and they ran when the streetlights went out and it was then he met his best friends I remember the show was all about that creepy town where he and his friends solved all paranormal mysteries and a witch was reincarnating herself in her descendants
Please help if you can
Edited by Lilly123

User Lunatic0verlord added this to the YMMV for the Black Bullet page.
His edit reasn stated; "I simply can't bring myself to think they could even possibly have a point in why the cursed children should be seen as monsters, anymore. Anything in me that said "well considering what they'll become and what they've been through, I can understand" is now as dead as those children... I WILL FUCKING SKIN THEM ALIVE AND HANG THEM BY THEIR OWN FUCKING ENTRAILS BEFORE FUCKING BURNING THEM ALIVE!!! FUCK THOSE MOTHERFUCKEEEEEEERRRRRRSSSS!!!!!! Sorry, I just have a lot of unstable and highly volatile feelings in me right now... None of those cuties deserved it, none of them *sob* NOT A FUCKING SINGLE ONE OF THEEEEEEEEEM!!! I'LL NEVER FORGIVE THOSE FUCKEEEEEEERRRRRSSSSS!!!!!!"
Not to sound jumpy, but this....kinda sounds concerning since the entry is very awkwardly worded and the edit reason is kinda.....yeah...