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openName of UK children's TV show with man and cartoon version of him as a child Live Action TV
I am after the name of a UK children's TV show that aired within the last 10 years. The two main characters were an adult and a cartoon version of himself. Being the same person (albeit at different ages) they had the same name but were prefixed with 'big' for the adult and 'little' for the cartoon boy.
openRecap page without works page? Live Action TV
I've come across an old draft of mine, which was to be a recap for an episode of a Genre Anthology. I'd like to finish and post it, but I'm hesitating because the show itself doesn't have a page. My focus really has been just on that one episode, and I don't think I know the series itself well enough to list many overall tropes for it or to give a description that's better than a stub.
So: Would it be okay to set up an episode list in the Recap namespace, install that one recap (once it's completed) there, and work up a page for the Series namespace at a later date? Or should the Series page exist first?
Edited by MasoTeyopenRegarding a disputed MEH example on AOS Live Action TV
I think Hellfire enjoyed being under the sway, unlike Daisy, and some cracks in Daisy demonstrate that even Inhumans under the sway appear to have some moral agency, at least. Also, Jiaying herself said Hellfire was too dangerous to undergo Terrigenesis, if I remember correctly.
openLocked recap pages? Live Action TV
I've taken it upon myself to develop the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers Recap pages. Before I started my work, they didn't go past the first dozen or so episodes of the first season. I've made my way up to the fourth Green With Evil Saga episode and on submitting it, I found that it just took me back to the blank recap page for the episode. Why is this? I grant that my recaps are detailed but they do not substitute for the full episodes or scripts, and nor have I ever seen a rule forbidding detailed recaps (indeed I have seen many others for other works). I haven't gotten a PM relating to the matter either, not yet at least. Instead I think this must just be some kind of locking glitch but not sure why it would have happened? Please can someone fix this so I can continue to work on the recaps. I also noticed that the fifth episode of the saga had the same predicament and, one might assume, so on and so forth for other episodes after that point. I checked and I was able to re-edit previously submitted recaps.
Edited by FlashStepsopenRL examples in Crowning Moments? Live Action TV
What's the policy for real life examples in Crowning Moments of Awesome/Funny/Heartwarming/etc? I was reading the Columbo page and came across this example:
"Real life example- after Falk's death, his estranged daughter from his first marriage, Catherine Falk, tried to sue for control of his estate. The judge denied her request and left Shera Danese as executor. This is awesome as Catherine Falk had not even spoken to her father or showed him any attention while he was alive and especially not in the years when he was dying, whereas Shera Danese had been with him since they met on set to the day he died."
It really feels like a backdoor to troping real life and/or real people. Not only does it not have to do with the show itself, which I know is probably good enough reason to remove it, it's not really something that feels right to be well... celebrating especially as the public isn't exactly privy to all the details of the relationships involved to know why Peter Falk and his daughter were estranged. But this is YMMV territory and I don't want to remove examples just because I don't agree with them, whether it be this one or any other RL examples I might come across.
Thoughts?
open What trope is this example? Live Action TV
Hi all. I'm fairly certain the answer to my own question is Survivor Guilt, but I think that is a bit more broad than the example.
I'm referring to a season 2 episode of The Newsroom, where Maggie recounts her harrowing experience in Africa; the orphanage where she is sleeping is attacked by cattle raiders and she and the other adults evacuate the kids onto a school bus. Turns out, one of the kids was left behind, so she went back into the orphanage to get him, and carried him out on her back. But while heading back to the bus, her colleague dropped his camera, causing her to turn around... just as a gunshot meant for her hits the kid in the back, killing him.
This event is why she spends the entirety of the season in a state of Heroic BSoD, and I'm trying to determine if there's a trope here beside simple Survivor Guilt. There's an element of Failure-to-Save Murder, in that she tried and failed to save the kid, but it's not that, because nobody blames her for the kid's death... except herself.
I could take this to the TLP, but as I'm not even sure how to distinguish this from the two tropes mentioned, or if there are even any other examples, I thought I'd ask here.
Edited by ginsengaddictopenLuke Cage YMMV Entry Live Action TV
- Tough Act to Follow: Given the universal acclaim of the previous Marvel Netflix entries, this show will have very high expectations going in. Not helped in the least by Daredevil's second season airing earlier in the same year.
Now that the show has actually come out, this sounds like it could use an update. (Plus, the part suggesting that Daredevil season 2 could become a Tough Act to Follow sounds Harsher in Hindsight.) I can't perform the update myself, because I haven't seen the show yet, and have thus tried to avoid reading reviews in detail.
openRecap.EmeraldCity Live Action TV
A few of the Emerald City recap pages had improper Wiki Words, so I put them on the cutlist with a note that they needed to be recreated under the proper Wiki Word. The cutmaster cut them, but didn't restore them, and now the history is gone so I can't do it myself. This is especially odd as I also requested the same thing for a Recap.The Flash 2014 recap page, and it was done correctly there.
openIron Fist Live Action TV
From Series.Iron Fist 2017:
- Mighty Whitey: Averted. In the words of Scott Buck, "I can say most definitively Danny Rand is no white savior. He’s trying to save himself, if anything." If it's like the comics, Danny is just the latest IF, most of which were Asian.
Considering a) the last sentence sounds like speculation, and b) the premise of the show seems to boil down to "white guy fulfills his destiny and saves New York from evil Asian ninjas", do those sound like valid reasons to delete this entry until further notice?
Edited by dsneybufopenEdit War on Agents of SHIELD recap Live Action TV
This troper https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=Peeve
has basically started an edit war (last 3 edits) about what he personally sees as 'objective', despite the matter being present as the typical 'AI gains consciousnes and overthrows her creator' on the show, with Aida doing a lot of things clearly out of spite and self-interest, not just 'following her programming' and several tropers besides me see it the same way, so just deleting it is not very productive.
open Crime Mystery Whodunnit Drama TV Show Title Help, Please Live Action TV
Do you know the name of that crime mystery whodunnit drama show that took place in New York, USA and aired for two seasons and was from the 2010s? (I think it aired either from 2011 to 2012) and one of the main characters is a woman and is divorced. In one of the episodes, a girl had looked like as if she had committed suicide by hanging herself, but her older sister and her boyfriend had killed her and made it look like as if she had hanged herself and in another one of the episodes, the victim was a woman who was found dead in her pool and she was, like, the president of a beauty/fashion magazine company and the murderer was a woman who had gotten into a fight with the victim and had shoved her into the pool.
Can you please help me and tell me the name of the show that I'm talking about?
open Sci-Fi Show Live Action TV
So I used to watch this reallife show which aired around 2004 in my country. It was in English. It was def a Sci-fi show. It has 3-4 Teenagers from what I remember. 2 guys and 1 girl I think. There was this futuristic car/vehicle (from what I remember, was very fast, could maybe fly and be invisible)(and has soo many features inside it). The Teenagers discover this car. And Inside this car One of the teens could put armour on and make him self like a robot and fight crime ( the armour was shiny silver). The Villain from what I remember was a Girl dressed in red leather. Everyone went to the same high school. One scene I remember was one of the teenagers (the asian i think) was captured and tied to a chair and he manages to get help/or contact by typing on a laptop with his hands tied backwards cause he's so smart. Thats all I remember, please let me know if this rings a bell to anyone. Thanks.
openClarification On This Live Action TV
From Mean Character Nice Actor Live Action TV
- Mark Pellegrino has pretty much built his career on playing assholes that include abusive husbands, Jacob and Lucifer. In real life, he is a devout christian and family man who comes across as very sweet, relaxed, funny and very appreciative of fans.
But from Wikipedia:
- Pellegrino was born in Los Angeles, California. He is an adherent of Objectivism, a philosophy created by Russian-American writer Ayn Rand.[4] Pellegrino does not identify as a libertarian. Though he considers this description to be the closest to his political views, he considers libertarianism to be an anarchist political ideology and has distanced himself from this ideology, describing himself solely as an Objectivist, stating that he sees a place for government in society.[5][6][7][8] He has described his political views, instead, as classical liberalism,[9] and has also described himself as a radical capitalist.[6] He is married to Tracy Aziz and is the stepfather of her daughter Tess.[10]
- Pellegrino is an atheist.[11]
Did someone pull the bit about him being a Christian out of their ass, or has renounced faith at some point?
Edited by shoboniopenScary Story Halloween Special? Live Action TV
I remember this special very vaguely however it most likely aired in the early 2000's. There was one particular episode apart of the special itself that I remember most of. The episode appeared to have people working on a kids show television set where there was a creepy doll. The only way I could possibly describe it is a cabbage patch kid mixed with Barney's height (at least from what I recall). The particular line that stands out to me is it talking to one of the cast members who happened to be a mail man on the kids show, she basically said something along the lines of "I'll cut out your heart and you can cut out mine." The man of course thought the doll meant paper hearts as there were materials to make them on a nearby table. Unfortunately the doll stabs him in the heart with a pair of scissors and says something mentioning a baby, I don't know. What I think I remember is the cast member who played the mail man had romantic relations with the woman who provided voice over work for the doll and recently discovered she was pregnant. This is all I really remember from it, it's been a while.
openMoving the Dark Matter TV series and its subpages Live Action TV
Just bugs me: why was the Dark Matter TV series moved, and not in its entirety? The WMG, dedicated entirely to the series (as opposed to the neglected RPG system) was left with the old name, and the move itself happened last weekend.
openInappropriate Armchair Diagnoses on ST Discovery pages Live Action TV
Hi... UGH! I've been tempted to make a couple edits to the Star Trek Discovery pages... in particular the various, rather un-clinical claims that Cadet Tilly's "special needs" are "code for some form of Autism." But I thought doing so would touch off an editing war, so I'm bringing it here.
I am a veteran of 8 years in Autism services and I find these armchair diagnoses very frustrating. I don't think "Ambiguous Disorder" would be inappropriate to list on the character page or the main page in reference to Tilly, but 1) for context, it's clear her "special needs" have to do with allergies, this was estalbished in the first ep where she appears. 2) Being socially awkward in itself is NOT enough to make a clinical diagnosis of Autism. 3) I wouldn't care so much about this if it didn't come off like a bunch of amateurs offering armchair diagnosis of "Autism" based on a character who is socially awkward and sometimes blurts odd things out, and 4) if I didn't think that this contributed to a serious public misunderstanding of Autism and to problems created where persons in online subcultures relentlessly self-diagnose (and try to justify behavior they know is inappropriate by appealing to their clinically uninformed self-diagnosis.)
As someone trained to assess for and diagnose Autism, who can genuinely speak from an expert opinion on this subject, I see ZERO traits of Autism in Tilly. The armchair overdiagnosis is, no pun intended, a "symptom of a broader disease" that we in social work are trying to bring attention to: the problem of "over-medicalization" or "over-pathologization." If Tilly presented with significant sensory or communication challenges, I'd be more open to other tropers' armchair diagnoses, but there is ZERO clinical basis for the claim that Tilly "offers a more realistic portrayal of Autism" than actual intended portrayals of Autism in other media that have actually been established by "Word of God" and/or in canon, in-universe (IE Max in Parenthood), or implied much more directly by other observed behaviors (like Holtzman in the new "Ghostbusters.")
Sorry, guys, but as an expert in Autism, I don't see it. The truth about behavioral health is that lots of people can be socially awkward at times without requiring a mental health diagnosis to justify human diversity.
Can we please be more judicious about this on the Star Trek Discovery pages? For the sake of not over-pathologizing/over-medicalizing the degree to which social skills vary in human beings even without Autism? Can we PLEASE stop labeling every character in fiction who sometimes struggles with social skills as "Autistic?" Or at least acknowledge this could be YMMV and link to Useful Notes: Autism for a more clinically informed persepective/comparison?
I apologize if this strikes a nerve with Trek fans who themselves have Autism and want to believe Tilly is Autistic too because it's positive to see someone who reminds them of themselves on a Federation Starship. But that's still wishful thinking that has yet to be directly behaviorally implied or confirmed by "Word of God" and there's even a lot of evidence that Tilly is not supposed to have Autism in-universe.
Edited by FTDopen Recaped episodes are still said to be not indexed Live Action TV
Normally, after indexing the main Recap page itself, a blank edit on that is enough to index the individual episode pages, but for some reason it just doesn't work on The Punisher
. Is that simply a bug or is there an editing error? Help would be appreciated :)
openIs this a trope or a one-off? Live Action TV
I'm struck by a particular character in Sea Quest DSV, named General Guzmano, who's played by Luis Guzman - it's strange to me that he plays a minor character with such a strangely similar name to his own, but... NOT appearing as himself(?)
Came here looking for the trope name and some more examples, but found nothing :-(... Maybe this isn't a typical enough thing to have a name? Maybe it's not even a trope kind of thing? I'd love to know
openYMMV Riverdale issues Live Action TV
The YMMV.Riverdale page is full of anti-Betty stuff mostly made by one troper, hiddenelastic, who's used Base-Breaking Character and Creator's Pet incorrectly. I sent a Pm about Word Cruft since it was the closest match but we might need to craft PMs about problem tropes like that, IE " Base-Breaking Character needs to acknowledge both sides of an argument" or "Creator's Pet must meet four specific criteria".
Examples:
"Base-Breaking Character: Betty, especially as of Season 2. Some fans argue that they find Betty annoying and hypocritical. Many fans opinions of her have changed for the negative after she blackmailed and threatened Cheryl in 2x02. Her self righteous attitude hasn't done her any favors with some of the fans either. The fact that a lot of fans feel that Betty is favored by the writers, doesn't help matters at all."
" Creator's Pet: Betty. Dear God, Betty. It's speculated that Betty is arguably the writer's favorite given how much focus they give her. This in turn has turned many fans off of Betty's character and they actually find her more annoying and boring, especially in Season 2. Many fans have complained that they wish the writers would stop putting so much focus on Betty and focus on other characters like Kevin, Josie, and especially Cheryl. "
Edited by lalalei2001

This is a minor issue, but I'm questioning one of my own additions to the Jessica Jones (2015) page and wanted to have other tropers weigh in. I added Mundane Luxury to the page because the series villain, Kilgrave, in the backstory used his Compelling Voice powers for some minor and common things: He made a rich guy give him his very nice jacket, had a concert cellist perform for him, and had a woman follow him around smiling all the time. Another character, after hearing of these events, observes that Kilgrave was just obtaining clothing, good music and a pretty woman's smile, remarking that these items are so petty compared to what he can (And other times does) do with his powers.
However, I'm waffling on the trope because it's not only about when someone obtains or desires something mundane, it's thematically about when they want these things because they've been so deprived that even the mundane seems luxurious. Kilgrave doesn't limit himself to just the mundanities, at other times in the series he is shown using his powers for expensive food and housing, mountains of money, sex with women, and every other way you can think of for exploiting his Compelling Voice power.
So, he's not been deprived of the mundane luxuries of life, but he does still go out of his way to get them in a way that other characters actually comment on. Would this fit the trope, or not?
Edited by JBK405