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openQuestionable edit on School Setting Simulation.
On School Setting Simulation, Sanmitvtropes not only unilaterally changed one of the description paragraphs without consensus, but they also deleted the Standoff (2018) entry because they claim the game itself has been pulled from distribution.
Courtesy link here
.
openRomantic Comedy Index
I don't think this is actually an issue, but just to be on the safe side:
While doing some cross-wicking, I noticed RomanticComedy.Anime And Manga wasn't indexing. That made me initially wonder if it was an index, or a trope page in serious need of context, but since Romantic Comedy itself was an index, I realized the issue was that the Anime & Manga page was listed as a Subpage of a Trope.
I took the liberty of editing the page type to check "Does Indexing" and, assuming it is meant as an index, it seems to be working as intended now.
Was I right to make RomanticComedy.Anime And Manga an index or should I revert it? Everything suggests "yes" but y'never know...
openEdit war
On My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic S9 E25 "The Ending of the End – Part 2" DragonMaster408 removed
Heroes' Frontier Step then BrianKT reverted it
then DragonMaster408 removed it again
and then BrianKT left an edit reason on the page "So Discord kick-started Equestria's counter attack in the most epic way possible not to amend for his mistake and because he truly cares about his friends? Was it still for selfish reasons?" without readding it, seems an edit war has erupted.
openNo Title Western Animation
Can I get some help expanding this article I made?
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/PhineasAndFerbTheAdventuresOfBeatriceFlynnTheRobotGirl
I'd do it myself. But I generally have a bit to do on my plate, so I don't really have the time to do it. Also, I'm generally bad at trying to figure out how to link tropes together. Seriously, I only recently relearned how to set up folders.
Please help.
openMore YMMV/BlackWidow2021 issues?
YMMV.Black Widow 2021, which had prior ATT
, has these entries I find suspect.
- Epileptic Trees: Given the controversy around Taskmaster barely resembling the comic character, people are already theorising how to give the character a 'do-over', specifically calling to how Mandarin and Deadpool (two characters who were similarly, controversially overhauled in their respective film debuts) got revamped years later. Ideas range from a Legacy Character approach, having "Antonia" get a sudden personality change, or even just straight-up introducing a comic accurate version with no relation to the version in this movie.
- Narm:
- Dreykov being unable to be harm by the Black Widows through pheromones of all things has been met with a lot of eye rolling from fans, with many raising the question on why Natasha can't simply shoot him from across the room.
Epileptic Trees I think is off the wall improbable speculation about the work itself, not future works, but this could be valid. Narm I'm very certain is misuses as this is more Fridge Logic than unintentionally funny. Thoughts?
openIndexing a work with an uncertain (2019/2020) release date
When I created Pinball.Stranger Things last year, I indexed it under The New '10s because it was revealed in December 2019, with at least outside forum post noting that someone had received a machine before 2020 began. Now, however, I find myself wondering if I should categorize and index it as a 2020 release instead, as the vast majority of machines were manufactured and released that year. (Long story short: there are three different versions of the game, all of which entered production at different times. The Internet Pinball Database lists the Pro model
as beginning manufacturing in December 2019, though the Premium
and Limited
models started in early 2020. In addition, the TWIPYs - the most prominent pinball awards show as of present - listed it among other 2020 pinball games for their most recent ceremony
.)
openBlank Recap Pages
So when checking the "new page" edits for today, I stumbled upon a troper named Sabrinamichelle4ever and their apparent hobby...of just creating dozens upon dozens of blank recap pages for the show 6teen.
I'd list them all, but that'd be an exercise in insanity. I sent a stub notifier for a random one of them, but it's probably best if you just see for yourself.
openDoes Trans Tribulations cover characters who deal with gender dysphoria but aren't trans?
I considered Trans Tribulations as a potential trope to add to The Yellow Bag since Tropes Are Flexible, but felt the need to ask first.
For context, the main character Raquel isn't transgender but does deal with gender dysphoria, with one of her big wishes being that she was born a boy instead of a girl (due to society treating men much better). By the end of the story, however, she grows to love herself and gets rid of that wish.
openIs Harry Potter an Adaptational Badass? Film
Much like the DC Extended Universe, the Harry Potter saga is no stranger to controversy and this time I wanna focus on our boy Harry
. His character page lists him as an Adaptational Badass under the following conditions:
- In the first book, Harry is barely able to hold off Quirrell, with the effort nearly proving fatal. In the film, Harry kills Quirrell with relative ease, and is still on his feet before being downed by Voldemort's soul when he escapes.
- When confronted by Snape in the Shrieking Shack in the third film, Harry sends him flying into the wall with an Expelliarmus from Hermione's wand, which is supposed to be more difficult with a wand that hasn't chosen him. In the books, this same effect was achieved by him, Ron, and Hermione trying to disarm Snape simultaneously.
- In the fifth book, his duel with the Death Eaters in the Ministry had him fumbling spells a few times including reversing his own spell by accident. The film portrays him as being far more competent overall.
I have to ask: are these entries valid? Adaptational Badass has seen a lot of misuse in recent years and the AB page has a paragraph that says: At its core this causes a significant dissonance with those familiar with the original character. It is not about a change in personality (Martial Pacifist to Blood Knight), method of fighting (defensive Simple Staff to offensive BFS) or battlefield intelligence (Dumb Muscle to Genius Bruiser), but in terms of how relevant they are in a fight. The key is how they are able to navigate through the story. Consider as a result of Power Creep, Power Seep that Superman himself has varied from simply "above human" in strength to near godlike, but he has always been Superman.
Also, I've always believed that Adaptational Badass applies when the character, in his/her entirety, becomes a badass in the adaptation, not when he/she is given small moments of badassery, even when he/she is already a badass in the source material. So, what do you think?
openQuotes page has real suicide notes on it
So, while doing a Wiki Walk, I stumbled across Quotes.Goodbye Cruel World, and immediately noticed the fact that it has real-life suicide notes on it. And this isn’t just one or two quotes, either, it’s over half the page. While I do understand that other quote pages have real-life quotes, it just feels very uncomfortable reading the suicide note of a real person who killed themself. Should the real-life quotes be removed?
Edited by idonomopen Red Riding Hood Replica (repeated issue)
Courtesy link: Red Riding Hood Replica
This first cropped up on ATT
just after the trope first went live.
A troper mistakenly thought I was edit warring when the RWBY entry was removed (by me), added by another troper and then removed by that troper after PM discussion between us.
The problem at the time was that the character (Ruby Rose) was listed under the sub-trope Little Red Fighting Hood, and this wiki typically does not trope something under the super-trope if the sub-trope fits. The reason she was re-added was in good faith — the page image caused confusion, leading to the belief that the entry should be listed on the page if the image is there.
At the time, I did open an image picking thread
to resolve the image confusion, but there really isn't a better image of RRHR to be found, so there wasn't much consensus. So, the image was retained, but the image quote does pothole to Little Red Fighting Hood in a note.
Unsurprisingly, a Ruby Rose entry was re-added to the page
two months after it was removed, and references the page image in the entry itself.
Now, I could ask for the entry to be removed. Again. But I think it is just going to get re-added again at a later date because the page image encourages it. Someone did suggest in the image picking thread that this could be handled by adding a commented-out note to the page warning people to not trope Ruby Rose there.
Can I go ahead and add a note to the page saying not to trope Ruby Rose there, and that it'll be removed if added?
Edited by WyldchyldopenJust Dance (No Name Given Trope) Videogame
Although I would like to add the trope itself since every single coach (not counting the collaborated ones) comes with no names at all, I also notice that some of the coaches have been given names, either by the directors of the game, concept arts or posts from official accounts. If it is to be added, will it be counted as a Subversion or Aversion?
openThe "end" of handheld gaming?
In the real life section of End of an Age, there's this example:
- The discontinuation of the Nintendo 3 DS in 2020 marked the end of the dedicated handheld era of gaming, nearly 41 years after the release of the Microvision in 1979. The era had already been on its last legs since the advent of affordable smartphones and tablets as well as the debut of the 3DS' rough successor, the home console/handheld hybrid that is the Nintendo Switch, in 2017, and went on life support with the death of the Play Station Vita (with no plans from Sony for a successor) and the end of first-party support for the 3DS in 2019, but it managed to carry on for just a year longer before the 3DS itself was pulled out of official circulation. Given that Nintendo had a near-monopoly on the handheld market since 1989, it's unlikely that anyone will try to revive the trade in the future.
With the announcement of the Valve Steam Deck, is it safe to say that handheld gaming is far from dead and that this should be removed?
Edited by supernintendo128openDisambiguation
How to submit something for a disambiguation page or create one myself?
Boy Meets Boy and Boy Meets Boy have the exact same title and now share a trivia page, etc, and need disambiguating somehow.
openI think the external links section of Creepypasta is too big
See for your self, Creepypasta. It also include a very dubious entry like this.
- The Untitled Fantendo Story
sorta fits this, especially in the "real life" chapters. Has a much happier ending, since the author did not write it intending for it to be creepypasta-like.
I think it should be cut down to just collection sites.
openIgnorant tropers. Webcomic
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/TwoKinds
Who was working on the description regarding Trace? He wants to REMEMBER his past, but he doesn't want to become his old self. Huge difference here.
"However, his memories are slowly returning, and with them a past he would prefer to remain forgotten."
https://twokinds-keenspot.com/comic/1030/
"Roselyn: Wait, but don’t you… want to return to your former self?
Trace: No! Of course not! I want to know who I was, so I understand what it is I’m fighting against! And hopefully fix some of the problems I caused! I was hoping you could help."
openFranchise Killing in Digimon Anime
So, Digimon is registered in Franchise Killer under the following context: The decline of the virtual pet craze caused Digimon to take a few major knocks in the merch sales, and it wasn't helped by Digimon Tamers underperforming in its target demographic (though it did end up Vindicated by History when older audiences rediscovered it). Digimon Frontier attempted to reverse the decline by retooling itself as a Henshin Hero series, but this alienated a chunk of existing fans and failed to create enough new ones, putting the franchise on ice until Digimon Data Squad four years later. And then it went on hiatus until Digimon Fusion four years later again. And then another hiatus until Digimon Adventure tri. four years later yet again (five'' years later with Digimon Universe: App Monsters if only counting TV shows). Needless to say, the franchise has had it rough since its heyday.
I have to ask, is this valid? Considering the franchise still continues to this day, does it really belong on the Franchise Killer page?
openHow to remove non-index from index?
Numina is poorly made, but that's aside the point. It appears that someone made it an index at one point (its Page Type is Work now, but that doesn't seems to fix anything). So now it appear in index list on every tropes on that page (ironically, the page itself is not indexed). I comment out some ZCE on that page, and made null edit on Foreshadowing and Ill Girl, but it still appear in index afterward.
Edited by Kuruni

Hello, I would like to make a self demonstrating page for the original Freddy Krueger as portrayed by Robert Englund. I’ve looked in the templates section of the website but can’t find one for self demonstrating pages…did I miss it? If not, could somebody make a template? I would appreciate any help I can get.