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openI think I am part of an edit war by accident.
So, on SeasonalRot.Doctor Who, I was editing an entry but then I looked at the history and I feel like I am part of an edit war by forgetting I already edited the same entry in a similar way. Basically, the fallowing happened:
- Lilybelle added
emphasis (two ('')) around the word "still".
- I removed
it because I felt the emphasis was not needed but I for got to put an edit reason.
- Lilybelle added
emphasis (three (''')) again without an edit reason or discussing it anywhere.
- I removed
the new form of emphasis, this time with an edit reason.
Did I edit war? If so, I would like to report myself for punishment.
openIdentifying Few tropes that I need to write for two series Print Comic
Hey, I am asking if anyone know some few tropes, so I can write them for two series like Cleopatra in Space and Making Friends
- Which trope has a person who was cursed is killed by their loved one said their last words “Thank You” before reverting back to normal in death like Octavian (formerly Gozi) who is killed by Cleo with the Sword of Kebechet and his last words were “Thank you” before being reduced to dust?
For Making Friends
- Which is the prison trope for Madison when she is only trapped in a dressing room and only be filmed for the show My Magical Best Friend?
- Which tropes have Mortha a moon goblin who disguised herself as Linda, Dany’s mom as she is homesick for her home world the moon and would have an ambition to own a moon yacht with her sister Xanther?
- Which trope takes place in the final pages where Madison and Dany find a graphic novel in the dream world that chronicles their life called Magic Friends similar to Making Friends hinting that Dany might one day make a graphic novel based on her experience throughout the series ?
- Which is a trope Daphne st cloud had a crush on Prince Neptune ?
openPermission to cut a character page (due to citation issues) Videogame
In Characters.Death End Re Quest Code Z, there are a few entries that cite the official website
(the website has an 18+ warning due to graphic violence). However, in the upcoming works thread
, it was confirmed that official websites do not count (due to, to quote the post, "If something is present solely in commentary made by a work's creator or someone involved in its making, but is not present in the work itself, it cannot serve as the sole source for examples."). It's thanks to this that I also hid some tropes on the main page Death end re;Quest Code Z.
I've already made a sandbox for the characters so I'm asking if it is ok to cut the character and reinstate it once the game is released.
Edited by Ayumi-chanopenPotential page revert
I have a concern about a recent group of edits from the user wonderpix45. Basically, they edited the page for Characters.Lost Main Survivors four times, seemingly just to trash the character of Libby. Among other things, they removed entries for TheHeart and HairOfGoldHeartOfGold as "incorrect assertions"
, edited the entry for The Shrink to say she's a "self-proclaimed" psychiatrist when there's no indication she's lying about her profession, added a Truth Twister entry to nitpick things she says (in a conversation where she's convincing someone not to kill himself and is very clearly using turns of phrases that the user is taking literally), and changing a Nice Girl entry to "zig-zagged" and saying that her romantic relationship with Hurley is depicted as "questionable" (this is, quite frankly, not true - they are treated as soulmates for the entire show, including the finale which the entry itself acknowledges). Along the way, they've had some questionable grammar and put multiple tropes in the wrong alphabetical order. I would normally go to the Discussion page, but these edits are four of the user's five total edits, which makes me think an agenda is in play.
I don't know what the procedure is when I'm contesting this many entries at once, especially due to concerns about an agenda - can I outright ask for a mod revert, should I just revert it all myself, or is there a third option I don't know about?
Edited by STARCRUSHER99openUnexplained removal
On Let Us Never Speak of This Again, a since-inactive user removed the SpongeBob and Patrick Star Show entries without a reason.
Can these be added back?
openNoYay for YMMV page for Sailor Moon Crystal
This entry is currently on Sailor Moon Crystal. I'm looking to fellow fans familiar with the manga and Crystal specifically for assistance with this, as the 90s anime is not pertinent. Detailed explanation forthcoming for people who aren't.
- No Yay: Unless you have an incest fetish, Chibi-Usa's crush on her father's younger self is creepy, especially after gaining an adult body, brainwashing him, and kissing him.
Well, yes. I agree that Black Lady (Chibi-Usa's transformed older self) is meant to be creepy. Chibi-Usa, however, has been misblamed as an incestuous creepy young girl in the fandom for years.
She's a Daddy's Girl with an emotionally distant mother - she loves him as a father and reveres her as an idol. Her attachment to Mamoru is simultaneously her wanting the paternal love that she suddenly is deprived of, being so far from home, and a precocious crush of the Father, I Want to Marry My Brother flavor. (She also perceives Usagi, Sailor Moon, and her mother Neo-Queen Serenity as being separate people, even though they're just the past/superhero/future self of the same person - it stands to reason that she similarly separates "Mamoru" and "Papa".)
What Wiseman did was meant to be creepy - it's a non-verbal attack on Usagi that the people she loves could be transformed against their will, their bodies twisted, their mind manipulated so they would do things that they would never, ever, in a million years even think about. Chibi-Usa was so hurt and lonely she clung to everyone who offered her kindness, and Wiseman offered her her greatest wishes: grow up, be a lady, have the kind of unconditional love and utter devotion that her father has shown her mother all their lives. Blaming her is blaming the victim.
That's a lot of text just to get to this point: How would you fix this entry? Is merely cutting the part about the fetish enough? I think it should still stay because it has a narrative point, not just there to gross out the audience (or titillate them).
Edited by annieholmesopenStrawman or InformedWrongness
- Strawman Has a Point:
- The movie paints Magnifico as narcissistic and self-interested in why he's selective about which wishes he grants, but many viewers and commentators have found that his reasons, while self-serving, do go hand in hand with ensuring peace and stability for his kingdom, which a king should strive for. While this doesn't excuse him hoarding the wishes he chooses not to grant rather than return them to their owners, much less what he does later in the story, many people find it hard to vilify him based on how he uses his powers early on, especially prior to him using dark magic and later breaking the wishes to consume their power.
- While Magnifico badly overreacts to his belief that the people of Rosas aren't giving him the proper respect, appreciation, and gratitude, it's also hard to fault him for fearing their love might not be unconditional. It's established that previous apprentices and applicants for the position often sought to use him and their positions to get him to grant their wishes or the wishes of a loved one, to the point where he was disappointed that Asha would ask him to consider granting Sabino's wish at that day's ceremony before she'd even gotten the job. And when he's trying to ask the populace for help in figuring out what the strange new magical force in the land is and who was responsible for it, everyone in the crowd is more concerned with what the situation means for their wishes than anything else; this is actually what sends him over the edge into consulting the Forbidden Book.
This was moved to Informed Wrongness as "Misuse. Magnifico is the main villain in the movie, not a Straw Character that solely exists to be wrong."
But my impression was as he was created to be the main villain he was made to ultimately be in the wrong (a lot of the movies contentions is how it had to resort to what's seen as last minute dive into full villainy to make him fully in the wrong). So is Strawman not the better fit?
If he was supposed to be more nuanced than a mere strawman, than is this really unintentional and instead Writer Cop Out?
openBarely explained removal on X meets Y
I noticed for the history of the Web Animation page for X meets Y one entry was removed:
- Skibidi Toilet Series is Garry's Mod meets Attack on Titan meets War of the Worlds.
The only reason the editor gave was: Removed skibidi toilet series
That's not a reason, that's just stating the obvious. The entry seemed fine by itself too.
Would it be alright for me to restore?
openavoiding 'DyeingForYourArt' edit war in Tropic Thunder
hello
Clear Air Turbulence removed an in-universe example of Dyeing for Your Art from Tropic Thunder, calling it irrelevant
i restored it and cited that it's a direct parody of movies like Saving Private Ryan, Platoon (which is one of the movies Tropic Thunder is parodying) and Band of Brothers
in a pm they said that the page only covers hair dye, but the page itself contains examples for training, boot camp, method acting, etc
can i get a consensus on this?
open Suggestion for a trope: Self Explanatory Mythical Name
So, I was thinking about this and I really don't know if it could be a trope, but I've seen it in so many things that I found it tiring, annoying, but also curious.
It is when a subject, project or creature receives a title with mythological roots without really being tied to it, simply for the fact that it sounds good and is self-explanatory about its nature. For example:
Videogame: In Evolve, by Turtle Rock Studios, every monster had a name related to a mythological beign, sometimes a monster and sometimes a human: Behemoth, Kraken, Goliath, Wraith...
Movies: In the Monsterverse, by Legendary Pictures, the other titans that aren't licensed by other franchises recebed names such as Behemoth, Scylla, Tiamat, Quetzalcoatl, Mokele mbembe (althrough this is more of a british myth rather than an african one) or Kamazots.
Is not like an adaptation of those figures, more like a self explanatory nature by name using another as refference. I'm not sure if this trope already exists, but I left the idea here, in chase someone wanted to writte about it.
openAdding memes that bash a rival game?
First, I don't know what to do for now regarding GRD's edits on YMMV.Wuthering Waves, as seen in this edit history
.
For context, there is indeed a Fandom Rivalry going on between fans of Wuthering Waves and Genshin Impact because the former is labeled as a "Genshin Clone" and had an unfortunate messy launch.
These are the Memetic Mutation entries GRD has added:
- "DEV'S LISTENED!" ExplanationBecause of the sheer amount of optimization issues and bugs, not to mention a plot and dialogue that most found to be...lame. A lot of WuWa players, specifically content creators, started making videos on how the developers of Wuthering Waves, Kuro Games, are "listening to player's feedback in order to fix the game." Detractors immediately ran with this, making memes and mocking them since it is not that far off from a coping mechanism.
- "Why would Genshin do this?"/"Psshhh....Hoyoverse spy here...." ExplanationA meme relating to WuWa's rivalry with Genshin Impact. But whenever something bad happens in Wuthering Waves, expect people to sarcastically type this to make fun of WuWa fans accusing miHoYo of sabotage.
- Genshin killer? No. Genshin symbiosis? Yes.ExplanationBecause of how unoptimised Wuthering Waves was, players from the CN region started to shitpost that the only way to properly optimize WuWa was to use Genshin's cache cleaner to run in the background to properly play the game. The whole idea of using your rival's far more optimized cache cleaner in order to run your game properly was so absurd - like some sort of bizarre software symbiosis - that both the Genshin and WuWa communities found it to be absolutely hilarious in all the wrong ways. It has to be seen to be believed.
- Stuttering Waves/Withering Waves/etc ExplanationAnother set of memes poking fun at Wuthering Waves....notorious framerate and performance optimization issues. Much derision and mockery was made at the game's expanse.
There's a dilemma here. On one hand, most of these memes have already spread enough that simple Google Searching will prove that they exist, but on the other hand, their current explanations only come off as bashing Wuthering Waves more in order to praise Genshin Impact. I think we can keep at least some of them but either trim down the bashing or rewrite them to be more neutral, especially because some memes (like "Genshin Symbiosis") are shared between the two fandoms despite the rivalry because they find it hilarious enough.
The other edit that GRD made in YMMV.Wuthering Waves is adding and crosswicking a Fandom Rivalry entry with Tower of Fantasy, which is mostly okay (because it's true that there's also a rivalry between the two games), but again, it also mentions Genshin at the end.
At first, I would've just wanted to fix the formatting or grammar, but the way GRD currently wrote them came off as very negative. I would've also either PM'd GRD or took the examples to the Memes cleanup thread
first, but looking at the ATT, several posts were already about GRD, such as making other questionable MemeticMutation additions
, Memes about Content Leaks
, or duplicating the Memes
of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.
Second, memes that revolve around Fandom Rivalry aren't exclusive to a specific troper like GRD or games like Wuthering Waves and Genshin Impact. If you look at Memes.Honkai Star Rail, for example, the "Genshin could never" meme talks about a Fandom Rivalry between Genshin Impact and Honkai: Star Rail because the latter received many QoL features that fans of the former have been wishing. However, the meme's explanation itself also says both fandoms have grown sick of the joke.
Looking at the edit history
, it was added by Atmos Blitzer and edited by Skye Ride 001.
I don't know if adding that is okay even if it doesn't sound like bashing the game, as the header or note in Memes.Honkai Star Rail says "Fandom drama on any social media platform, as it's considered drama importation." isn't allowed...
Also, just like what I said in the Wuthering Waves part above, the "Genshin Could Never" meme is indeed being used and a simple search on the Internet proves it.
Third, Memes.Genshin Impact already had several Memes about Fandom Rivalry too, which again, mention Honkai: Star Rail and Wuthering Waves.
- Your feedback will be used to improve Honkai: Star Rail instead ExplanationStar Rail seems to have corrected most of Genshin's shortcomings. The Trailblazer has meaningful alternate dialogue options, and possesses a meta-defining Harmony kit. Trailblaze Power (the Resin equivalent) has a higher cap (240), faster recharge (1 per 6 minutes) and an automatic overcap mechanic (Reserve Trailblaze Power) instead of being wasted if it hits the cap. The free Battle Pass grants an item that guarantees the main stat of a Relic (Artifact equivalents). There are three endgame modes: Forgotten Hall (standard Spiral Abyss equivalent), Simulated Universe (roguelike) and Pure Fiction (multi-target Spiral Abyss equivalent)— the last of which salvages multi-target characters who were left out in an anti-boss endgame meta. The reward for 300 standard banner pulls is a free standard banner 5★ unit of the player's choice. Celebratory rewards are also far more generous, including a free and powerful limited 5★ unit (Dr. Ratio) for all players in celebration of Star Rail winning multiple awards in 2023. While many of these can be attributed to Star Rail being a new game on a clean slate, players wonder why corresponding quality-of-life, endgame and reward improvements don't seem to be coming to Genshin.
- Genshin could never ExplanationA related meme that began spreading like wildfire after the announcement of a free Dr. Ratio during Star Rail's 1.6 special program. Many Star Rail and former Genshin players gloats at how Genshin could never do what Star Rail does better. However, it also depends on who should respond to as it can piss off Genshin players and some Star Rail players who is still playing Genshin of which they are many.
- Genshin could never... launch a game in this stateExplanationIn addition to the Star Rail fanbase, the Wuthering Waves fandom also frequently used that phrase to generate hype for their game as a "Genshin killer" that was superior combat, endgame and more generous developers. However, Wuthering Waves' release on the 23rd of May, 2024 was riddled with controversy. The game was clearly not ready for release due to its numerous glitches, bugs, performance issues and hilariously bad localisation. The "Genshin killer"'s flop caused many players to reflect back on Genshin's extremely smooth and almost bug-less launch back in 2020, with "Genshin could never" being repurposed to praise Genshin instead.
- Genshin is the stepchild of Mihoyo's games ExplanationStar Rail improving on the standard set by Genshin on top of generous free rewards such as the aforementioned free Dr. Ratio has caused some players to make this joke/comment about the differences in management of both games.
- Genshin finally could ExplanationThe Version 4.7 Developer's Discussion announced a surprise increase of the Original Resin cap to 200, which finally allows players to log in and consume Resin once a day without risking an overcap. Next, the Version 4.7 livestream formally revealed Imaginarium Theater, the first new permanent endgame activity since launch. Combined with the unoptimized launch of Wuthering Waves in the same time period, players cheered how Genshin was finally stepping up on gameplay improvements and showing its polish relative to competitors.
- Genshin could never ExplanationA related meme that began spreading like wildfire after the announcement of a free Dr. Ratio during Star Rail's 1.6 special program. Many Star Rail and former Genshin players gloats at how Genshin could never do what Star Rail does better. However, it also depends on who should respond to as it can piss off Genshin players and some Star Rail players who is still playing Genshin of which they are many.
- The World of Warcraft of gacha games / Genshin wins by doing absolutely nothingExplanationBeing by far the most prominent gacha game and considered the representative of the genre, frequent memes have popped up comparing Genshin's influence to that of WoW, deservedly so. Likewise, memes also emerged comparing "Genshin killers" to "WoW killers" due to the many open world action RPG gacha games that attempted to challenge Genshin, all predictably failing. The most famous being that of Tower of Fantasy and Wuthering Waves, both releasing with numerous bugs and unstable performance, the former having already fallen into obscurity as of 2024 and the latter being additionally criticised for its writing, localisation problems and monotonous dubbing.
- Genshin killer? No. Genshin symbiosis? Yes.ExplanationBecause of how unoptimised Wuthering Waves was, players from the CN region started to shitpost that the only way to properly optimise WuWa was to use Genshin's cache cleaner to run in the background to properly play the game. The whole idea of using your rival's far more optimised cache cleaner in order to run your game properly was so absurd - like some sort of bizarre software symbiosis - that both the Genshin and WuWa communities found it to be absolutely hilarious in all the wrong ways. It has to be seen to be believed.
- Genshin killer? No. Genshin symbiosis? Yes.ExplanationBecause of how unoptimised Wuthering Waves was, players from the CN region started to shitpost that the only way to properly optimise WuWa was to use Genshin's cache cleaner to run in the background to properly play the game. The whole idea of using your rival's far more optimised cache cleaner in order to run your game properly was so absurd - like some sort of bizarre software symbiosis - that both the Genshin and WuWa communities found it to be absolutely hilarious in all the wrong ways. It has to be seen to be believed.
Like the Star Rail memes page, Memes.Genshin Impact also has a note saying that it disallows Fandom Drama.
At this rate, I'm also inclined to know what the editors of the Memes.Genshin Impact and Memes.Honkai Star Rail pages count as "Fandom Drama". I mean, why bother putting a notice like that on a Memes subpage only to later add and crosswick Memes about Fandom Rivalry?
Edited by DanteVinopenQuestionable edit. Live Action TV
These two entries were recently posted on YMMV.Young Sheldon by user "marshenwhale".
1) Under Unintentionally Sympathetic:
- Sheldon throughout the entire show could be considered this, since he clearly is on the spectrum but the show never directly acknowledges this or delves into it, all of the times where he acts stuck up or talks down to his family for his intelligence, they treat him like a kid who is just being bratty, but since he is neurodivergent, it means his parents never handle his behavior correctly. This is probably at it's worst in "An Entrepreneurialist and a Swat on the Bottom" where Sheldon is portrayed as being completely in the wrong for calling Meemaw selfish and trying to run away to see a lecture when nobody will take him, but the fact is that Sheldon literally does not understand why what he is doing is wrong considering he doesn't read social cues properly, and is shown to not understand when he is hurting people's feelings because from his perspective, he's just stating facts. So Meemaw spanking him and him later getting grounded makes all of the adults in his life look like morons since they have clearly seen by this point that Sheldon doesn't think in a typical way and just choose to ignore it.
2)Under Unintentionally Unsympathetic:
- Going off the point above in Unintentionally Sympathetic, basically the entire family in most of their conflicts with Sheldon since they all fail to recognize that he isn't neurotypical. This doesn't apply to Georgie since he rarely fights with Sheldon, but it does make George, Mary, and Meemaw all look really dumb. You could argue that this is a result of Mary being very religious and therefore not being very educated on what the spectrum is, but considering the show takes place over multiple years you'd think at some point one of the adults in Sheldon's life would wonder if it applied to him. Worst of all, this even makes Missy look really bad, because as a child growing up in the 80s and 90s, she most definitely would have learned what someone being neurodivergent was at some point but never even brings it up, which causes all of her dislike towards Sheldon to make her look like a total jerk instead of just a child lashing out at being the The Un-Favourite, which is clearly what the writers were going for.
I have some issues with this. For one, while hinted at in both The Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon, Sheldon has never been confirmed to be neurodivergent, not even by Word of God, who blatantly refuse to answer definitively. It wouldn't be much of a stretch to say he is, but there's no official confirmation.
Also, the post reads like the poster has a bit of a bias. Neurodivergent or not, some of the shit Sheldon pulls is uncalled for and would reasonably make most people angry. When I watched "An Entrepreneurialist and a Swat on the Bottom", I was under the impression that Sheldon knew what he was doing was wrong but did it anyway because his needs are more important to him than everyone else and he acts like that quite often in both shows.
Should this stay or not? Or should it be re-written? I'll let the tropers decide since this is YMMV and I am not the biggest Sheldon Cooper fan so I'm likely biased in My own way.
openSEED Freedom edit war (repeat offender)
driller is once again
edit warring under YMMV.Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Freedom.
- Esoteric Happy Ending: Foundation has been defeated and completely neutralized as a threat, hooray! Except multiple nukes were dropped across Eurasian territories, Requiem was allowed to cut multiple bloody swaths across multiple countries unimpeded, multiple riots were instigated, Many sympathizers jumped at the idea of Coordinator supremacy (although it's very likely they were already under Foundation's payroll), and hundreds of thousands are dead as a result, with the only other bright spot being that Blue Cosmos might have been finally eradicated alongside their leader Michael (which hems on if that was their last bastion or not), which could mean they're no longer able to continue their horrific attacks in the aftermath.
They added this, Lone Courier 0 removed citing "It's acknowledged to be a bittersweet ending and not a truly happy one, so it feels unnecessary to add." (Which I agree with and took to cleanup, but got no feedback on.) driller added it back under its new name without edit reason.
- Allegedly Optimistic Ending: The Accords have been defeated, Foundation's ambitions have been halted, and everyone is happy with their respective partners. Clearly everything ended perfectly... Except Thousands, if not millions, are dead as a result of multiple nukes being launched and Requiem sweeping through different countries, relationships between Coordinators and Naturals are still shown to be heavily skewed, and the novel reveals that Blue Cosmos STILL hasn't been eliminated and continues to make terrorist attacks. Arguably the events of the movie have left Cosmic Era is a far worse state than it has ever been in up to this point.
Omega Nemesis 13 defeated it citing "Stop trying to add this, just worried with a different trope. It can't be alleged if the story itself acknowledges these things."
driller still edit warring, along with their other suspect edits. Should something more be done?
openExample Indentation problem in YMMv page
I found two examples in YMMV page for The Gifted (2014) where two example indentation is probably used wrongly.
- Alternate Character Interpretation:
- The Stinger regarding the nature of The Gifted novel in the end portrays Marco in in a negative light. The novel portrays the unhealthy rivalry of Aica and Zoe who are actually based on in-universe real life people. In the reveal, the audience learns that the two novel characters are based on two of Marco's former classmates, Maica and Joey who are actually Fire-Forged Friends and are not okay with Marco's portrayal of their fictional counterparts in their books and mugged him in the end for it. They basically claim that the novel is an actual product of Marco's insecurities and envy of the two's academic aptitude and the embarassing incident of Aica's soiling herself and Zoe's revenge on their theology teacher was actually Marco's experience.
- Alternatively Maica's and Zoe's view on Marco's reputation as a friendless outcast maybe an exaggeration as well. Nevertheless the epilogue's possible Aesop against excessive escapism still stands.
- The Stinger regarding the nature of The Gifted novel in the end portrays Marco in in a negative light. The novel portrays the unhealthy rivalry of Aica and Zoe who are actually based on in-universe real life people. In the reveal, the audience learns that the two novel characters are based on two of Marco's former classmates, Maica and Joey who are actually Fire-Forged Friends and are not okay with Marco's portrayal of their fictional counterparts in their books and mugged him in the end for it. They basically claim that the novel is an actual product of Marco's insecurities and envy of the two's academic aptitude and the embarassing incident of Aica's soiling herself and Zoe's revenge on their theology teacher was actually Marco's experience.
- Broken Aesop
- Films and television series who features conventionally unattractive leads often implies a premise that Appearance Is in the Eye of the Beholder. However like in most films, the leads underwent cosmetic surgery. This was subverted in the ending where it was revealed that the events of the film is a loose adaptation of real events by The Gifted author Marco. Maica and Joey criticized Marco's book for making their fictional counterparts undergo surgery and insists they are contented with their appearances. They chastised the book as a escapist Fanservice meant to cater to men.
- However films such as The Gifted also heavily relies to the female demographic with Sam Milby as its male lead. Depending on your point of view the feminist message in the epilogue might not hold water..
- Films and television series who features conventionally unattractive leads often implies a premise that Appearance Is in the Eye of the Beholder. However like in most films, the leads underwent cosmetic surgery. This was subverted in the ending where it was revealed that the events of the film is a loose adaptation of real events by The Gifted author Marco. Maica and Joey criticized Marco's book for making their fictional counterparts undergo surgery and insists they are contented with their appearances. They chastised the book as a escapist Fanservice meant to cater to men.
How do I fix it?
openI would like to report myself
I would like to report myself for discussion in the edit reasons on
Trivia.Wednesday I honestly didn't realize what I was doing until I had clicked save. I thought I was simply putting an edit reason, but then I remembered that you aren't supposed to respond to previous edit reasons. It only happened once before I realized and decided to report myself. I apologize and will except punishment if necessary.
As a side note I am not even sure if the entry should be there but that is for another thread.
Edited by BullmanopenI'm worried
Normally, I wouldn't be doing this, since I'm not seeking for any attention, but I think I should break the silence now: I'm currently adding a lot of FNF mods' pages and putting them into the main game's fan works page (and also in other proper pages so they could get attention). During last year, I was getting some users helping me fill those pages. Sometimes the mod wasn't so famous, so tropers weren't appearing in those rare cases, but I didn't mind that at all, plus every person has their rights to choose what they want to do.
One day, now in 2024, I've created the page for Glitched Legends, a popular Pibby mod in the community. While I was thinking on other mods to add and working in other stuff at TV Tropes, I've been noticing the page hasn't been having anything new; no corrections, no examples, nothing. I wasn't thinking too much about it, then. "Maybe it's because it's a Pibby mod. Even if it's a high-quality mod, Pibby mods are oversaturated, so maybe not many people are into it". Then I've been created other pages: Vs Slenderman, Funkin In The Massacre Night, Friday Night Funkin VS Chara, and so on. None of them have been updated ever since.
I don't want to make any publicity here, or force anything to anybody, since like I said, anyone can choose if they want to help or just see those pages, but I'm genuinely worried. I've been patient for two months now, and I'm not receiving any help from other users. Even Roastin' on a Cartoon Cartoon Friday, probably my most elaborated page during these months, only had one foreign edit, and it was only a little correction. Are my pages not causing any interests? Am I getting some bad reputation for something?
I'm sorry for creating this whole Wall of Text, but I wanted to explain myself clearly.
Edited by UzarNaimBer15openWeird Edit Removal Reason Western Animation
On YMMV.Dexters Laboratory Walt K removed this entry
- Self-Fanservice:
- Dexter and Mandark get a lot of this in fanart.
- Dee Dee gets her fair share of this, especially when most artists think she'll take after her mom. It doesn't help that Dexter once described Dee Dee as "her hips a bit meaty".
they removed it
with the edit reason "inappropriate" (presumably meaning "sexualizing characters from a children’s series is inappropriate")
Whether you agree with them or not, YMMV is just troping Audience Reactions, and we’ve had other Self-Fanservice entries from kids shows. Even if it is "inappropriate" we’re just troping what fans believe. Is this ok, or should I add it back?

I'd like to recreate the Self Demonstrating page for Daniel Fenton / Danny Phantom, which had been cut for being a "boring" stub. I'd personally like to completely re-do it from scratch (maybe by trying to make it actually reflective of how he speaks and acts), and actually make it a worthwhile read. Would it be wise for me to recreate the page?