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openUnexplained deletions Live Action TV
Gnarli XCX deleted several examples I added
to The Other Two with no edit reason, and in one instance reverted an example I had given context (Successful Sibling Syndrome) back to its half-context state. They also cut down the Idiosyncratic Episode Naming example I added too, cutting a sentence explaining why that naming pattern was significant to the show. The examples are not misuse or misleading in any way (I added them just after watching the episodes) so I don't know why they'd remove them, and while they added new stuff, I don't think they could have deleted this stuff on accident. I don't know if they did this to any other pages either.
I PM'd them on the 11th asking why they did this change. They have edited as recently as yesterday and today, but have not answered my message. Could I get some wiki feedback on whether I should re-add the examples? I obviously don't want to edit war but this deletion doesn't make sense to me.
Edited by mightymewtronopenNo Title Live Action TV
Recap.Only Fools And Horses is being misused, as rather than creating separate recap pages for the individual episodes, tropes are just being dumped on to the page. This was brought up over in Ask The Tropers
, over 8 months ago but nothing appears to have been done about it.
openEdit warring on ymmv page of JaneTheVirgin Live Action TV
Troper Sabat has been Edit Waring on the ymmv page of Jane the Virgin. They added these two entries several times despite being removed by two other people on the grounds of having racist leanings as well as coming off as biased.
Here are the entries in question: Anvilicious: This show has addressed the subject of illegal immigration in a one-sided manner, but it is especially obvious in Chapter 61, which dedicates another Alba subplot to the issue, finally culminating in Mateo asking "why some people don't want peace" in America.
- Strawman Has a Point: While the snooty white woman in Chapter 61 who informed a Spanish-speaking guest that "This is America. You should learn to speak English," was rude, many people would agree that if you live somewhere, you should know how to speak their language. Alba later reciting the Preamble of the Constitution as a retort comes across very Narm, as well.
As well as the Edit history
openBatman Series Live Action TV
I'd like to ask if the move from Series.Batman to Series.Batman 1966 was somehow discussed and/or approved, because...
- Such a move is usually justified by another work in the same namespace and title and a disambiguation is needed, which doesn't seem the case here to my knowledge.
- The other reason to move a page, that is to split the subpages so that they apply to only one work, can't be invoked here since every one of the Batman (1966) subpages is a redirect to the corresponding Batman subpage.
I can't help but think this move was half-assed here.
openHow Bizarro is a Bizarro Episode? Live Action TV
I'm having trouble getting a handle on Bizarro Episode. I always thought that it meant episodes that are completely out of continuity, like the NewsRadio episodes that are set on the Titanic or in space. But there are a lot of examples that are just "this episode is weirder than usual", or "events in this episode aren't referenced again", or just examples of bad episodes. Is it really supposed to be YMMV? If it's like those Newsradio examples, it's not based on audience reaction, it's a deliberate choice of the writers.
openDisagreement/Slight Edit War over DesignatedHero Live Action TV
So Troper Desert Dragon put up a Designated Hero entry on the YMMV page of Marvel'´s runaways. I deleted it because I don't really think that applies. Not just because of my own opinion (what he thinks), but because pretty much every Runaway in that season has done their own share of morally ambiguous things that the rest of the group disagreed with (heck, Nico even killed several people) and is called out in-universe, respectively. Alex is not singled out as in any way particularly bad.
The troper however put it back up. How should we proceed?
(Ironically, a similar topic was started over myself recently^^)
Edited by ForenperseropenQuestion Live Action TV
In which episode of the series "Alex Mack" does the main character save her class from a fire, only to discover it was all a dream?
openPossible edit war?? Live Action TV
So per TRS decision, I removed a Bi The Way example added by thegatorgirl on Characters.Thirteen Reasons Why. They added the trope back with a different sentence... I think? I wasn't paying attention where it was at the time but I'm pretty sure it's for the same character.
Edited by Crossover-EnthusiastopenTroping reality shows Live Action TV
I know the wiki has a strict "no troping real people" policy, so I am a bit confused on what can and cannot go on articles for reality shows. More specifically, whether The Scrappy is allowed on the YMMV pages, given that most entries consist of bashing certain contestants. This is especially obvious in this page
, which has an entire section describing participants' misconducts outside of the show. Surely this isn't allowed, is it?
openMod Revert Live Action TV
I commented out a lot of Zero Contents on the Characters.Friends Main Characters page and Suave Augstine went and uncommented all of it with no edit reason other then there is a lot of these. I would like a mod revert if possible or at the very least permission to hide all the zero content entries again.
openDo these examples sound like complaining? Live Action TV
I was looking at Characters.Cobra Kai Other Characters and found two examples of Counselor Blatt that sounded off, especially the second one, which feels like nattering and is full of grammatical errors:
- Karma Houdini: Everybody in this show will make some errors, and will have to pay for them. Everybody, but this woman. She's the most incompetent counselor EVER, being unable to stop bullying in the first season, unable to stop a fight becoming a battle in season 2, and in season 3 not only she's unable to stop the tensions (which is part of her JOB) but she's making it worse and worse. Yet, she doesn't pay for making the lives of their students miserable.
- No Sympathy: With a little of The Millstone thrown in. The lives of EVERYBODY in the show (yes, even Kyler's) would be better if this woman was not there. She's the closest being in fiction to a living, breathing (and incompetently ignorant) Diabolus ex Machina!
- It becomes sidiculous when she grounded the Miyagi team for rough play during a football match, yet she released the Cobra Kai team for the exact same behaviou. She didn't even ask to the P.E. teacher that sent both the groups!
- And is beyond absurd when the new Cobras started to harass students, when they broke Dimitri's arm, and drew a dick on his plaster. Yet this woman didn't do ANYTHING. It seems that her only reason to be, is to make everything worse.
- It becomes sidiculous when she grounded the Miyagi team for rough play during a football match, yet she released the Cobra Kai team for the exact same behaviou. She didn't even ask to the P.E. teacher that sent both the groups!
Does anyone feel like this is complaining?
openSuperman & Lois page cut Live Action TV
Why was Superman & Lois cut as a TV Tropes page? The reasons stated were "no trailer nor release date" but it literally has both - the show premieres February 23rd and here's a trailer:
open WandaVision RealityEnsues Live Action TV
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Series.WandaVision
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Series.WandaVision
The troper Alphatater deleted the entire Reality Ensues section for Series.Wanda Vision, writing see Discussion for the edit reason and then posted there reason in the discussion on top of the discussion. Now first of all, I am not sure if that is kosher to do it that way, but I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they thought if anyone disagreed, the discussion was already set up.
Secondly, I know Reality Ensues can be shoed in and I suspect that they are right but their reasoning doesn't sit well with me: "They describe fantastical situations that have never and can never happen in "reality.""
The reason I am bringing this here is, I am still shaky about how to describe the way Reality Ensues works. It has nothing to do with whether or not the situation is fantastical, right?
Edited by LadyErinNYopenTroper who is using plagerized fanfic summaries and multiple names for recommendations. Live Action TV
On the fanfiction recommendation page for Dead Boy Detectives (2024), dozens of fanfics have been added in the last two days (because that's how long the page has existed) by Shanwooo444 which have the summaries copy-and-pasted straight from Archive of Our Own. I changed the only one that I've actually read, but I can't re-summarize the rest of them because I haven't read those fanfics. I've also noticed that all those fanfics being added rapidly have a variety of different names listed as "Recommended by," but a quick glance at the history of the page shows that they were all posted by the same person. So it is definitely just the one person who is copy-and-pasting the exact summaries from Archive of Our Own.
Anyone who is a fan of the show want to swing over there and help edit the ever-growing number of fanfictions being recommended there?
openAbby Cadabby Live Action TV
From PeripheryHatedom.Live Action TV:
- Showing that history can indeed repeat itself, Abby is currently getting the same treatment as Elmo, mainly from the generation of young adults and teens that grew up watching and fell in love with Elmo. Abby's popularity with the older fanbase is a Broken Base—some find her a refreshing change from the two decades of Elmo (although how long this will last before they start getting annoyed by her remains a question), while others still don't care and still want the focus to be back on Big Bird and the Muppets (and human characters) of their time. The root cause of the hatedom here is The Generation Gap combined with a Nostalgia Filter, combined with a heaping dose of They Changed It, Now It Sucks!.
openDoes this qualify as Complaining About Shows You Don't Like Live Action TV
Hello all. I am VERY new to the site (in that I received edit privileges only recently; have been a long time lurker) and wanted to make sure I'm interpreting something correctly. I was looking at the trope page for 13 Is Unlucky and spotted this in the Live Action TV section:
- Doctor Who:
- A Time Lord who is dying can regenerate into a new body. They can do this twelve times, but the thirteenth time, they'll die for good. Of course, there have been some exceptions to this rule.
- At the end of "Twice Upon a Time", the Thirteenth Doctor makes her debut by being thrown out of an exploding TARDIS thousands of feet above the surface of the Earth.
- Putting it further for the 13th Doctor, "The Timeless Child" retcons over 60 years of DW lore by revealing that not only was the 13th Doctor not the first female Doctor, but the regeneration of the Time Lords was actually stolen from her by killing her over and over again so that she would regenerate continuously, making the ability that was unique to them literally Powered by a Forsaken Child. This was the episode that massively broke the fandom, truly making the 13th Doctor unlucky. It is worth mentioning that DW continuity is already notoriously contradictory and weird and other stories implied that there were other incarnations, so whether this is a retcon or retconning a retcon is debatable.
Does that last entry qualify for Complaining About Shows You Don't Like? I wanted to make sure before I did any edits on it. I would prefer to remove that entry.
openWhat's the deal with these How I Met Your Mother pages? Live Action TV
I was wick checking when I came across a series of nine pages called HIMYM.Tropes Season One through HIMYM.Tropes Season Nine. Going back to the main How I Met Your Mother made me kind of confused. How I Met Your Mother's main page has several folders full of tropes, but then at the bottom there's a folder called "Season Specific Tropes" that links to the pages in the HIMYM namespace. Beyond how I'm pretty sure we're not supposed to use initialisms like HIMYM in page headers, why are these not moved to either the main page or pages of tropes listed alphabetically (which How I Met Your Mother doesn't currently have)? Also, the series already has every single episode with its own Recap page, are these not more or less redundant? What's the deal here?
openYMMV deleted without edit reason Live Action TV
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.Andor&page=11
Andor just had a bunch of YMMV stuff deleted with no edit reason.
openPlagiarism Report Live Action TV
The first three recap pages (at least, I haven't found any more) on Cold Case appear to be blatantly plagiarized from the Wikia (one actually links to it, says it takes from there...). Two were added by samitv, and one was added by unclejack (sorry, I don't know how to link tropers). This is a bit old, so I'm not sure if this has been dealt with already or not, but I figured I should report it anyway.

The Live-Action TV subpage for Role-Ending Misdemeanor has multiple folders. While the "In General" and "Puppet Shows" folders are obvious enough, I'm not clear what the difference is between the "Creators" and "Shows" folders, as both seem to be "this person attached to this show was fired for something". Was the "Creators" folder supposed to be for behind-the-scenes folks, with the "Shows" folder being for actors?