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openNo Title Literature
grarrrg2 on Drunken Master removed
this Film entry "* Haymitch Abernathy is the drunken mentor to Katniss and Peeta in The Hunger Games. He then placed a double-bulleted entry. "** The Movie version of Haymitch mostly just comes across as drunk" under the primary entry of Literature.The Hunger Games.
Should this be reverted/edited under Example Indentation? I want to make sure of what is the right thing to do here.
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I ordered a book called Rasp which is related to the bookseries Halvgudene the other day, but it hasn't come yet so won't write about it until then. But I'm wondering about something... if all the important characters in the book are also in Halvgudene, would it be possible that if one click on "characters" on the future Rasp-page that it takes one to Halvgudene's character page? Or even better, straight to where the information on Rasp herself is? Thanks ^^
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Do we have a policy for/against pimping works on the forums? If the latter: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13803061300A62828100&page=0
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The August 7th edit on "Radar/Literature"
deleted probably 4/5 of the page without giving any sort of edit reason. Only two edits have been made since then - is it best just to have the page reverted to the point before that edit?
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So, on the Mary Sue Tropes section of the Twilight YMMV page, I deleted a Justifying Edit. Hell, it even started with "To be fair". However, troper https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=YlvaThorgalsdottir
re-added it, but just removed the first sentence, with the edit reason being "Unjustified". It's still defending a character's treatments of the Anti-Sue, and has no real relation to the Anti-Sue trope otherwise. Isn't it still a justifying edit?
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Not even sure if it's the right place to ask...
Literaure theory says that Robinson Crusoe is The Everyman. Since tropes not always follow what literature theory says, but share the same name with them... can he be counted under literature section of The Everyman or more likely under The Generic Guy?
Edited by rzorrzopenNo Title Literature
Where do I get help finding the title of a particular book? I remember some of the plot: a girl was kidnapped to work in a space station and the slaves would then be killed. It was a children's chapter book.
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I want to star a works page for the Hellhole trilogy,
but I'm not sure how to namespace it. I do know to put it in the literature/ namespace, but I'm not sure whether to name it Hellhole, Hellhole Trilogy or The Hellhole Trilgoy. Should I use Hellhole as a redirect for the longer name?
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Should Animal Farm have spoiler tags? It was written in 1945, half a century ago. Nineteen Eighty-Four, by the same author and written in 1949, has no spoiler tags, and The Reveal in it is exponentially more dramatic and unexpected for the first-time reader than anything in Animal Farm.
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Where did the index on Tearjerker/Literature go? O_o A lot of books with tearjerker pages don't have a home anymore!
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What should I do if a work ([Literature.Gone Girl]) has a YMMV trope on the main page with a Zero Context Example, and no YMMV page? normally I try and move YMMV examples to where they should be, but ZC Es are a no-no as well, so I'm not sure if I should a) move the entry to a newly-created YMMV page, b) same as a, but commented out (thus creating an effectively-empty YMMV page), or c) Delete the entry entirely?
(Ideally, I'd move the example and add context, but I don't actually know the work.)
Edited by femgeekopenNo Title Literature
Does anyone know whether The Prehistoric Crisis exists as a published work? Someone named Troodon blanked its page (on Main/) with the reason "doesn't exist", Google tells me it has a wiki as well as a post on Yahoo by someone asking for help in writing it 3 years ago. But does it exist as a novel now?
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I just created a page for the Hostile Takeover series. There is an unrelated novel by the same title, which already has a series page in the Literature index. I thought it might be advisable to make Hostile Takeover a disambiguation page to distinguish the two, but every time I try to access Main, I'm taken to Literature instead.
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I want to add a new page for a book. How do you create new pages on the website?
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Got an argument in one of my YKTTWs, Tidally Locked Planet
, on how to format and sort a multi-author example.
freesefan wrote:
- Until 1965, scientists believed that Mercury was tidally locked to the Sun. Many sci-fi writers, including Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov, and Kurt Vonnegut, wrote stories featuring a tidally-locked Mercury. See The Other Wiki here
. In 1965 it was determined that Mercury actually rotates three times per two Mercury years, exposing its entire surface to the Sun.
crazysamaritan wrote: From How to Write an Example, Keep it an Example, the 1965 entry isn't an example. The part about Issac Asimov's short story can stay, but here's my stab at rewriting for Real Life:
- Mercury, until 1965, was believed to be tidally-locked to the sun. Unfortunately, Science Marches On, and even otherwise lauded sciencefiction writers like Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov, and Kurt Vonnegut had written stories featuring this "fact". More about Mercury in Fiction
from The Other Wiki. The change in 1965 was from radar observations that weren't possible before the invention.
free wrote: ^Yes it is an example. Clarke, Asimov, Vonnegut, and others wrote fictional stories featuring a tidally-locked Mercury. The linked page has a list. Your recommendation to move the example to Real Life is inappropriate because Mercury isn't really tidally locked.
crazy wrote: ^^^^ What you didn't read, I am now posting here:
- Keep It An Example: Making a blanket statement on the behavior of '70s Live-Action TV may be interesting information, but it technically doesn't add anything new as an example. If you feel the information is important, then add it to the description instead of the examples. Examples are about specific works and instances in them; the description is the general behavior of the trope. See Needs A Better Description.
free wrote: ^ You remain incorect. I did not provide a blanket statement, I provided a specific example—examples in literaturre of Mercury being written as a tidally locked planet—and a link to a page that has a list of specific stories. What you cut and paste does not have any relevance to what I wrote. I'm not sure how a list of fictional stories that employ a certain trope can not be viewed as examples of that trope. And, once again, you are incorrect in saying the example should be moved to Real Life, because the example is not about Real Life. Mercury is not tidally locked. The example cites instances in fictional stories.
Requesting a moderator ruling.
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I just finished a book (The Last Kashmiri Rose), which hasn't got a page yet. This is the first in a lengthy series of mysteries starring the same character, running to eleven volumes and counting now. I haven't read any of them and don't know when I'll get copies. If I were to create a works page, would I do it in the namespace linked above until there's a works page for the rest of the series, or would I create a Detective Joe Sandilands page and leave it unfinished? (Or wait and not create a page at all at this time, or something else?)
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This was a long time ago, so maybe the statute of limitations or whatever is up on this, but aerojockey left a rude editor's note on Characters.TheKingkillerChronicle
on June 18th last year. Specifically:
%% note
%% the entries for Felurian are deliberately lower-case, reflecting the orthography of her dialogue in the book.
%% if, for some reason, you think you would like to make everything "consistent" by capitalizing these entries,
%% please ask yourself whether you want to be "that guy" who shits on any tiny bit of fun he sees
%% thank you
While I was cleaning the page today (still needs more work), I deleted the rude part but left the rest.
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A guy is
Edit Warring with non other than Fighteer himself in the Consider Phlebas page.
WTF.
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Is there a policy on adding tropes from works that aren't fully released but still available?
Baen books likes to put out eARCs (electronic Advance Reader Copies) of their books...unproofed, pre-release "beta" versions which cost a bit extra compared to the final product but are available months before the official release. Are they valid sources for tropes, especially given that details from them may still change before release?

From the Literature/Frankenstein page:
Wouldn't this be an inversion rather than an aversion? If I understand correctly, an aversion to this trope would be if a character was extremely good-looking, and evil as sin.
Edited by RayAP19