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Screwed up a custom title request and asked for Fate of the Jedi to be custom-titled as FateOfTheJedi. Immediate facepalm. Can this be cancelled right away, please?
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Hi
Some time ago (sometime in middle 2012) I set up a Works page for the classic horror novel "The Devil Rides Out". I'm reasonably sure I put together a summation of the themes and ideas of the book, and noted at the end that - bizarrely - it had been turned into a stage musical. I also linked it to several other pages and I'm fairly sure I put on the index of supernatural and horror novels. I can't find a trace of it today and I'm only coming across red links to where it should be. I'm fairly sure it was deleted, so in all humility could i ask if this is so and what was the reason? As the greatest work and most important novel by the author Dennis Wheatley, and later made into a movie,I felt it merited a works page. If it was anything I did wrong, or if I offended against custom and site rules in any way, please advise me and I will try not to repeat the error in any subsequent rewrite (if necessary). Thanks!
Edited by AgProvopenNo Title Literature
I noticed that the Glen Cook article was placed in main, and decided to attempt to move it to the Creator namespace. (Glen Cook)
I changed the wicks linking to it and expanded the page to justify its inclusion; at this point, I don't think there's anything left to do except get rid of the old page somehow. My question is, do I take it to the cutlist or use a redirect? It doesn't look like it's a terribly visited page.
Also, on a similar note, I noticed that we seem to have messed up the page title for Black Company, which is supposed to contain a definite article. Is this worth fixing, either by moving or putting up a lazy redirect?
openNo Title Literature
Out of curiosity, why was my post about Thomas, Lara, and Harry in Dresden Files/Fridge deleted? If I violated some kind of forum rule I'd like to know, and I didn't think just deleting other's posts was encouraged.
openNo Title Literature
How do you set up a main page redirect for Quest Of The Unaligned?
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If I wanted to write up a page on the "Save the Cat" principle articulated by Blake Snyder in the book of the same title, what would be the best way to do it to conform to TV Trope Norms:
- As a Trope entitled Save The Cat, using the justification that it is a preexisting term.
- As a Trope with some other bland, generic but precise title
- As a works page describing the book as a whole.
The book also includes the Ten Movie Plots, which we currently have as a trope page with no examples.
"The intriguing title of the book comes from Snyder’s suggestion that writers have to make audiences like the hero by having the hero do something nice, such as saving a cat."
http://princessscribe.blogspot.com/2009/08/save-cat-uncaged.html
"What is “Save the Cat”? In its simplest form, it is that moment when, early on in the film, our hero/heroine takes some sort of action, like saving a little kitty, which makes us want to go along on the journey with them."
openNo Title Literature
I've got a question for Septimus Heap...about [1]. Or whoever wants to answer. The ghost characters in the series (Alther Mella, Alice Nettles, etc.), would they be considered Posthumous Characters? They're dead, and are still major characters.
openNo Title Literature
I'm considering moving Federation to Star Trek: Federation in keeping with the rest of the Star Trek Expanded Universe work pages being titled Star Trek: Insert Title. Thoughts?
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Coming here as I'm confused as to where to take it. I think it would bounce all over the place; Trope Talk, Lost And Found, and the "Is This an Example" thread.
I'm working on the page for the Doom novels.
Hey, stop laughing! They're a Guilty Pleasure that introduced me to Robert A Heinlein and HP Lovecraft.
Anyway, the main problem I have is that these books are badly written. Not in the "I think this character sucks" manner but in that they are very inconsistent on facts. I have no idea how to document such mistakes. I'm not sure what we'd consider them, like Retcons or what. And the quality gets worse as the series progresses.
I want to document this, of course I'm trying to get this in a proper objective format.
Some highlights:
- A dead character changes hair color over ten pages. She's blonde when mentioned and then suddenly a redhead.
- A monster talks to The Hero early on in the first book. This is a minor plot over the series and becomes a major plot point in the fourth. The trick is a second monster spoke in the first book, cracked a bad joke, and this is never mentioned again. Every time the subject of talking monsters come up it's only the first that anybody remembers, that was the only time it ever happened as the characters are concerned.
- The teenage girl in the group changes last names between the second and third books.
- The characters use Reporting Names for the monsters. Fly calls a monster "spiny", Arlene named them "imps". After the third book, both POV characters insist that Arlene calls them "spiny". Repeatedly.
- At the end of the third book, the heroes are unarmed and naked after teleporting disintegrated their weapons and clothes. At the start of the fourth they have their uniforms and weapons back. They didn't find new ones, they didn't make new ones. I get why, it's a Retcon because the authors backed themselves into a corner. But they even call attention to it when Arlene laments losing her wedding ring because it disintegrated when they're Retconning the disintegration.
- At the same time as the gear retcon, they now have different weapons than before. And these guns are now their weapons of choice when it was the destroyed set.
- The teenage girl changes hair color between the second and fourth books. She's a redhead in the second book and blonde in the last.
I love this series but it's a mess. The text supports all of this, I'm not bitching about perceived flaws, just trying to record what they've done wrong.
Edited by RotparopenNo Title Literature
Harley Quinnhyenaholic removed
an example from YMMV.Surface Detail without an edit reason, and since it's Nightmare Fuel, I think that's not kosher...?
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OK,so I have been working on the new page for The Spellmonger Series, and I have a few questions about how to trope it.
1: in the story, there is a type of amber called irionite, that acts like an amplifier artifact. It is so rare and powerful that without it, the main antagonist would'nt even exist (he's undead). Question: the amplifier artifact page says that aa s are usually unique enchanted items like amulets, but irionite is a mineral. In short, it works like an amplifier artifact, but is used like applied phlebotinum; so which trope do I put on the page.
I'm going to put my second question in another post.
Edited by aschwartz07901openNo Title Literature
Hey, is it okay to add an In-Universe example to Single-Issue Wonk, or has that been made deliberately exampleless? 'Cause it's not listed on Example Sectionectomy despite not having an example section.
I'm specifically thinking of Stententious Logar, a guy quoted in Ciaphas Cain: For the Emperor who blames all the Imperium's ills on rogue traders.
Edited by StarSwordopenNo Title Literature
How do I add a new WMG page to a Main Page that doesn't have one?
I read a thread about it, but I don't understand it.
I want to make a WMG page about the Discworld novel, Interesting Times. On the main Discworld WMG page, it seems to only support multi-book examples, while my theories are just for this specific book I read.
I appreciate any help I get on this subject.
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Since the various series/quartets/whatever of the Tortall Universe have been split off into separate pages, would it be alright to turn the page into an index (in the same way the Star Trek franchise page is), and if so, how would I go about doing that?
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I created a page for the book Gods and Generals today and have a question about indexing. It's about real figures from the American Civil War, but it's a novelization, so does it go in the Historical Fiction index?
openNo Title Literature
Possible edit war brewing on the The Dresden Files YMMV page. Troper efay's making some edits to Unfortunate Implications that are both complaint-heavy and without citations. I've requested it be taken to the discussion page before we get too heated. Thoughts?
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OK, I've got a doozy of a puzzle here. One of the two protagonists of Journey to the West is a Buddhist monk with a hell of a lot of names, and our page on the book is quite inconsistent about which ones it uses. Here's the list:
- Chen: His family name, serves as a prefix to most names below (i.e., Chen Xuanzang).
- Jiangliu: His original birth-name. Little used either within the book or by other sources.
- Xuanzang: His Buddhist name, given when he became a monk. One of the most commonly-used names outside the book - this is how Wikipedia
refers to him, as well as most (though not all) of the entries on our page.
- Sanzang: His courtesy
, or adult, name. Buddhist monks don't normally have these, but he was given one by the Tang Emperor of China in anticipation and celebration of his journey to the West to obtain the true Buddhist scriptures and bring them back. The Emperor also adopted him into is family, making his full name Tang Sanzang rather than Chen Xuanzang. 'Sanzang' derives from son zhang, the Chinese term for the Three Baskets, the scriptures at the heart of Buddhist canon. As a result, a number of translations refer to Sanzang the monk by the original Sanskrit name of these scriptures, Tripitaka. Sanzang/Tripitaka is the name used throughout the vast majority to the book, which deals with the journey of the title.
In order to maintain consistency, then, which name should we pick and stick with on that page - Chen Xuanzang, Tang Sanzang, or Tripitaka?
Edited by IaculusopenNo Title Literature
While making a page for a novel, I screwed up and accidentally made both a Main page and a Literature page for it, basically giving it two pages. How would I go about deleting the Main page? PM a mod?
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In the flowers for algernon page I added an trope instance of bring my brown pants
- Bring My Brown Pants: One of the few times it's Played for Drama. Charlie has a tendency, especially as a kid, to shit himself whenever he gets frightened, which doesn't take much considering he's retarded. This just leads to more pain and suffering since then Rose decides she has to spank him, somehow thinking that disciplining him will stop him from being retarded.
- Bring My Brown Pants: One of the few times it's Played for Drama.

A while back, my reviews were spammed by a now-banned troll. Most of their comments were cut, but there seems to have been a mixup with my review of Jurassic Park (the book)
. Not only is the troll's comment still there, but my review is completely blanked! And it doesn't show up on the work's page. What went wrong here? Any way to fix it?
Edited by Tuckerscreator