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openRinging Bell example on Anime Woolseyism Anime
The intro to Ringing Bell has a narration explaining the symbolism and moral of the movie, just in case you didn't get it. In the Japanese version it's just quiet (and to foreshadow that this wasn't some cute kids movie).
This sounds way more like complaining ()
openCharacter images Anime
Prior to Characters.YuGiOh VRAINS being split into multiple subpages due to the "page too long warning", someone replaced most (if not all) of the character images with images of the same characters, but taken directly from (mostly) individual episode screenshots instead. As far as I know, no proper consensus was established over this prior to the changes made, nor were there any edit reasons explaining why they were made.
(Example: This image
◊ was formerly used to represent Yusaku Fujiki (whose folder is now located in Characters.YuGiOh VRAINS Cafe Nagi Confidants); this is the current image
◊ used to represent said character.)
Is there some sort of standard on what kind of images should be used to present characters in character pages?
Edited by Tenma-YuukiopenPermission to delete false and unconfirmed information? Anime
In the Anime and Manga sections of certain trope pages and within the actual work pages, I see information that came from fan translated interviews that are no longer available on the Internet or were translated unfaithfully (as in, the translators were not native Japanese speakers nor did they study Japanese or—in all seriousness, because it has happened—they were trolls trying to justify Word of God but in reality were twisting the words spoken and claimed it as valid, thus becoming a clear case of God Never Said That). Could I delete that information on the grounds of it being "false and unconfirmed information with no official source to back up its validity (see How to Write an Example)"?
open Blacknuz unilaterily changing a romanization in New Game related a Anime
Tropers/Blacknuz has been changing the romanization for a major character in Manga.New Game and associated pages wholesale, without discussion.
openRegarding the sudden deletion of the HoYay/LoveLiveSunshine page Anime
Is it possible to revert or bring back the HoYay/LoveLiveSunshine page after getting cutlisted? (Or at least give a more detailed reason for deletion?)
I can't help but question the sudden deletion on the grounds that it's "spam"—which is defined as "unsolicited, undesired or illegal email messages." Everything that the HoYay/LoveLiveSunshine page wasn't.
Unless there's some kind of recent memorandum or consensus posted here on TVT regarding such pages, in which case, might as well wipe the rest of the Ho Yay pages for other fictional works.
And the troper who did it: jormis29
(edit history
).
openQuestionable edits on "Soul Eater" Anime
~Shushuruhn (a new account, according to the Watchlist) has gone over Manga.Soul Eater and edited out all references to the character Chrona having an Ambiguous Gender (Word of God is basically a Shrug of God), which seems a bit questionable. I've done a quick search and haven't found anything to suggest it's changed (the original manga ended a few years ago, and I don't think any of the spinoffs have even featured Chrona).
Edit History for the article in question.
EDIT: The editor in question seems to have done the same to their character page about 5 days ago, too
.
openWall of spoiled out text Anime
On the Anti-Villain page for Anime and Manga, there's a wall of text for Attack On Titan that's almost entirely spoilered out. It's also really long and looks to be improperly indented. I'm not familiar with the work, so I can't fix it. Should I comment it out, or can someone clean it up real quick? Side note: The video games sub-page also has many entries with the same problem.
Courtesy link: Anime & Manga
Edited by bitemytailopenExpy on Ikki Tousen character sheet Anime
Despite removing the Expy entry regarding the similarities between Hakufu Sonsaku and Excel as well as a brief discussion
on the talk page, king3000 has just now restored the expy entry in Characters.Ikki Tousen, with an edit reason of "i would love someone to explain to me how excel and hakufu are nothing alike" (history
).
Not only that, but it's also a textbook Zero Context Example entry. I don't want to get into an edit war, so what would be the best way to resolve this situation?
Edited by gjjonesopenTearJerker/MobileSuitGundam00 Anime
This page has had some abysmal grammar for some time now. Most of it was added by a single troper (Cinco_005), whom I’m assuming has English as a second language. I and another troper fixed most of it, but I’m exhausted, and a good portion of it still remains. I don’t think I have enough context on the show to do this on my own. The page also had spoiler tags, which is against wiki policy, and which I removed by hand.
Also, for some bizarre reason, the page image was completely deleted in one edit. I also added that back.
openAvoiding an edit war Anime
This entry used to be on YMMV.Sonic X:
- Idiot Plot: The Egg Moon story line only happens because Sonic is apparently the only person in the entire world who understands basic astronomy.
Nate River 18 removed it with the edit reason: "Idiot Plot is not YMMV".
Idiot Plot is YMMV, though, so permission to restore the entry?
openProtagonist usage Anime
Chaotic Novelist made a massive edit to Stardust Crusaders
citing that the word protagonist cannot be used in the plural, although I've seen it used as such. Is such a change necessary?
Also, while they correctly removed misuse of Ensemble Dark Horse from descriptions of Kakyoin and Avdol, they also modified an entry in such a way that it comes off as on-page complaining about said misuse.
openPossible Edit War on Yashahime page Anime
Okay, so there's some contention over this entry on the Yashahime main page.
- Series Continuity Error: In the original anime, the clamshell rouge Inuyasha's mother gave him as a keepsake was destroyed by Naraku after Inuyasha gifted it to Kikyo, but here it's in Moroha's possession and perfectly intact, with no explanation how.
- Possibly averted if you consider Yashahime to be a sequel to the manga, where the clamshell was never broken.
I've deleted the second point before because the claim that the clamshell wasn't broken in the manga is misleading at best. As far as I can find, it never existed in the manga at all - it was only shown in an anime-original story, as one of many filler episodes that never occurred in the manga. I've asked repeatedly for anyone to provide some evidence that it did exist and wasn't destroyed in the manga continuity in case I'm just misremembering, but no one has done so, and the second point keeps being re-added as is despite not addressing the problem.
I really don't know how to handle this, but I don't want to drag this out into an edit war. Does anyone have some advice for handling this?
openEdit Warring on YMMV/Overlord2012 Anime
Leonidaz made some edits to the Overlord (2012) page on roughly 1/12.
- Memetic Badass: Ainz Ooal Gown is regarded as one of the most overpowered, invincible and badass villains and protagonists in Isekai history. An unusual case in that Ainz is indeed invencible and in-universe everybody regards him as the ultimate superior being, but in reality Ainz is far from being the unbeatable badass everyone thinks he is, he is just lucky to always meet foes weaker or dumber than him.
- Rooting for the Empire: It's rather hard to root for Ainz and the rest of the gang when they act like your typical Fantasy JRPG villains. The fact that they easily steamroll through any obstacle or foe, all the while acting over the top arrogant and snide at the other races and people around them does not help matters. You WISH the antagonist of the arc would actually smack the smirks right off of their faces just for a change of pace (though a bunch of them, such as the Eight Fingers, are even worse than them). The Tomb of Nazarick's over the top entrance and sadistic subjugation of the Lizardfolk (a peaceful community they went to war with just as an "experiment") has been seen as rather infuriating for readers. Though, after they were conquered, Ainz then ordered Cocytus to rule over them with the carrot and not the stick, showing that he's not a total sadist. However, Ainz later unleashed five abominations on a huge, mostly conscript, army and showed nothing but glee towards breaking the record of how many monsters were summoned at once, not even feeling anything about all those who his summoned monstrosities slaughtered. And then there's everything about Demiurge's "livestock". Seriously, many fans of Overlord would want a crossover with other series just so Ainz could face a challenge and be defeated JUST ONCE.
- Spiritual Adaptation: If you unfocus your eyes, you can almost convince yourself you’re watching an anime adaptation of Den.
- That One Boss: For the Great Underground Tomb of Nazarick this title can easily be assigned to Victim, Guardian of the 8th Level. The irony of it all is that Victim is only level 35 and the weakest Guardian. His power comes from being able to sacrifice himself, which causes an onslaught of crippling status debuffs and movement lockdown effects, allowing the rest of Nazarick's forces to kill the invaders at their leisure. To emphasise this point; no Raid Party in Yggdrasil had ever gotten past it.
I removed the areas marked in bold, Spiritual Adaptation, and That One Boss because of the nature of these edits.
- Memetic Badass not only had misspelling, but it also reads as a Justifying Edit and conflicts with the trope.
- Rooting for the Empire has an unnecessary point at the end and has no reason to be there.
- Spiritual Adaptation reads as a ZCE since it doesn't explain how it is one.
- That One Boss is being used for an In-Universe example, so it doesn't make sense to include it.
After removing them on 1/13, said troper returned and added them back in without a message. I sent them a message notifying them I would be making this.
Edited by keyblade333openJapanese Name or English Name Anime
I know this site runs on a "written with English readers in mind" policy, but I notice that a bunch of Works pages use an untranslated Japanese title, particularly in the light novel section.
Take for instance, Isekai Yakkyoku (Pharmacy in Another World).
If we come across these pages, should we turn it into a redirect with a properly translated name?
openSecond Opinion on a Trope Anime
Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL
Idiot Ball: Early on, Yuma and Astral acquire No. 11: Big Eye and No. 61: Volcasaurus, two very powerful Number monsters who could have won a lot of duels that called for their effects. Neither Yuma nor Astral ever think to summon these two monsters except for one other time each; in Volcasaurus' case, it's for naught because he summons it during the only duel where his opponent has a counter in place. The same can also be said for No. 6: Chronomaly Atlandis, a card acquired much later but had equally high utilities for, given its overpowered effects; instead... they settle for using Gauntlet Launcher...
This sounds more like a rant than anything. Should it be removed?
Edited by Jackpot21openDisproportionate Retribution Anime
Me and another troper are having a disagreement here https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=DragonBallZ.TropesAToG
about rather Dr. Gero fits the definition of Disproportionate Retribution.
The argument against him being this trope is that he has justifiable reasons for wanting to kill Goku since he destroyed the Red Ribbon Army which he devoted his entire life towards, along with his son being killed in service of them, and it ruined his life. Also, Gero is not responsible for the androids after they kill him in both time lines.
My argument for including him is that Gero specifically programmed the androids to hate humans so they will happily kill them and help him take over the world. So the only off-script thing they did was killing Gero. Them terrorizing humanity afterwards happened because he made them that way. He also forcibly kidnapped Android 17 and 18, and made them androids against his will all for his revenge plot. Also, he activated the androids despite Goku being dead for six months in Future Trunks' timeline, so it wasn't all about revenge. There is also Cell which Gero created to become more powerful by eating people and according to Cell, Gero wanted him to destroy the universe in revenge for the Red Ribbon Army. Now, you can argue that Cell got it wrong or was just insane, but there is no information contradiction this either. And on top of that, Android 19 and Gero personally destroyed a city that had nothing to do with the fall of the Red Ribbon Army.
Since this is kind of a values question about what is considered disproportionate, we need more opinions.
Edited by Ramona122003openBerserk entries from voice actor articles Anime
On certain voice actor articles like Creator.Wendee Lee and Creator.Erica Lindbeck, a troper named mrdarkcatify (their edit history is here
) removed the Anime.Berserk 2016 link with the edit reason "Let's pretended that monstrous never exist." Given that, do you guys think we should restore the link or leave it out?
openEdit War on YMMV.KiraKiraPrecureALaMode Anime
On the 10th of October Tropers/Dr_Wrecker made an edit on YMMV.Kira Kira Precure A La Mode changing Base-Breaking Character to [[BaseBreakingCharacter Base-Breaking Characters]]: here
I changed it back with the edit reason "The displayed trope name should not be altered". After that I forgot about it.
Earlier today the same troper made the exact same change to the exact same page here
.
Again I undid it, this time with the edit reason "As stated on How to Write an Example: Do Not Alter or Pothole the Trope Name". At first I did not think anything of it, but something kept nagging at me and after searching through the page history – that particular troper has made A LOT of edits to that page – I discovered that this is an edit war.
I have sent no notifiers for the edit war, though I have sent Dr_Wrecker a notifier for an earlier edit on the same page (adding a commented out example of Base-Breaking Character that later got expanded on).
openPossible edit war Anime
Troper catbot158 have made a possible edit war on Characters.A Sign Of Affection.
- Here
, they added a Beta Couple entry (albeit a ZCE) to both Rin and Kyoya's folder.
- I hid it
- They unhid it
without elaborating the trope.

Since the Sailor Moon manga and anime pages were split, a lot of creator page wicks for voice actors should be changed from Manga.Sailor Moon to Anime.Sailor Moon. Trivia pages should also be checked for Actor Allusion wicks.
Edited by rjd1922