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openSector 7 (Korean Movie) Film
Can this film Sector 7 be added on on?
This monster film contains a feral monster who is quite possibly very tragic since it was driven by experimentations and harvesting of many butterfly like creatures being used for fuel under Lee Jeong Man, whom brought up an experiment upon. The monster which i can describe this man eating predator as a miserable creature being subjected to tremendous cruelty.
openWhich fits better? Film
A while back, I added "My Animal" to the Bittersweet Ending page, primarily with:
- My Animal: Heather and Jonny don't get back together and Heather's family has deteriorated further, with Hardy blaming her sexuality for their father's death and Cooper fighting him in her defense. That being said, Heather transforms and kills Jonny's abusive boyfriend Rick, and with Heather being asked to leave her home as a result, things may very well get better for her from there.
However, when the movie got its own page, instead there was:
- Downer Ending: Heather gives in to her wolf side, murdering Richard. Afterward, her mother orders her to leave town for her protection, which Heather does, going toward an uncertain future leaving both her family and Jonny behind.
Maybe I'm just way too optimistic primarily considering the monologue at the very end of the movie, I dunno which is right, and if it's the latter, would it be good to add a "Ray of Hope" Ending entry?
Edited by RedBerryBlueCherryopenEdit war and consent for Fridge entry correction Film
The very first entry created for Fridge.Saw X was added by TT Fan, and it initially looked like this:
- Gabriella's death is most likely what inspired John to let Amanda oversee the traps in Saw II. As explained in that film:
Hoffman: Why do you need Amanda in the game?Kramer: To ensure that the rules are followed.
I then changed the "As explained" to The Stinger because the dialogue mentioned Hoffman (who didn't appear in Saw II at all, so I assumed it must have been from this film's Stinger scene):
- Gabriella's death is most likely what inspired John to let Amanda oversee the traps in Saw II. As explained in The Stinger:
Hoffman: Why do you need Amanda in the game?
Then TTFan changed it back to how they left it before (albeit with some minor changes), starting an Edit War:
- Gabriella's death is most likely what inspired John to let Amanda oversee the events in the Nerve Gas House. As explained in that film:
Hoffman: Why do you need Amanda in the game?
Thing is, I'd like to get some permission to change the entry again and avoid to continue the Edit War, since I realized that the dialogue was actually from a scene in Saw V. My change would look like this:
- Gabriella's death is most likely what inspired John to let Amanda oversee the events in the Nerve Gas House. As explained in the house's pre-game flashback from Saw V:
Hoffman: You're assuming this is going to play out the way you want it to.
Just to note, I've also sent a PM to TTFan so they can give their own word about this, since considering the circumstances, I doubt how mods will deal with this (i.e., if they'll suspend TTFan or not).
Edited by Inky100openUnrelated reason for deleting a Moment of Awesome example? Film
On August 25th of this year, TylerFG96 deleted the following Saw III entry from Awesome.Saw, with the edit reason: "Tell me you missed the point of Eric Matthews' arc without telling me you missed the point of Eric Matthews' arc."
- The reveal that Eric Matthews actually escaped the bathroom after the second film by breaking his own foot, and then managed to catch up to Amanda and deliver a brutal Extreme Mêlée Revenge. Even after she gets away, he taunts her by shouting that she's not the real Jigsaw, effectively hitting her Berserk Button.
Even as someone who knows a lot about the Saw series, I'm not really sure how this is supposed to "miss the point of an arc" like Tyler is saying. Sure enough, things go worse for Eric after that moment, but the Awesome pages for the series feature plenty of similar examples citing moments of determination from characters who end failing one way or another, and I can agree this is still a good Awesome example either way, being Eric's Defiant to the End attempt against Amanda (and to a lesser extent, John).
Does anyone else have opinions about this removed example?
Edited by Inky100openTough Act To Follow clarification Film
Does this trope apply only to situations where the previous work was a smashing success, or can it be a tough act to follow due to how disastrous the previous installment was, making people turned off from the sole idea of a sequel? I know YMMV tropes can't be played with, further complicating matters (since it can't be listed as an inversion)
openPossible Square Peg, Round Trope Film
On Characters.Cool Cat Saves The Kids, I found some Politically Incorrect Hero entries with bits relating to the Coronavirus:
(emphasis added)
All politics aside, this feels like a case of Square Peg, Round Trope. The trope is about otherwise good characters who hold prejudiced, bigoted views, or at least act like they do. Unless that's involved in some way, I don't think a character's actions related to a disease qualify, no matter how controversial or potentially endangering they may be.
Nevertheless, I thought I might as well bring it up here, just in case there might be some nuances I'm missing. What do you guys think? Should these entries be edited to remove stuff related to the virus?
open Survivors Film
Is there a name for a Survivor of past horror/slasher/monster/experience, who has to return or even seeks out the originator of the trauma, in order to keep others safe from what they went through. Like when the Losers return to take on Pennywise, or Lorie Strode preparing for Michael, active Hunters?
openNot You Again Trope Film
Oh, No... Not Again! is obviously the trope for a situation repeating, but what about when you run into someone you wish you never would run into again though? Like with Home Alone 2 and Ginger's "It's her!" reaction to Mrs. Tweedy in the upcoming Chicken Run sequel too? There a trope for that or would it fit under the same umbrella?
openActor Allusion clarification Film
SOLVED: Production Throwback
Can Actor Allusion be also applied to the director or is it strictly for actors?
In Conspiracy Theory, one of the scenes has the characters hide in a crowded cinema, where they are screening Ladyhawke. Both were directed by Richard Donner and he picked the screened movie himself as a joke.
Edited by TropiarzopenPossible Broken Aesop? Film
So, saw that adding a Broken Aesop to The Last Jedi's page would need to be approved first, so I figured to ask if this was acceptable (or if it was already added/removed)
One of the aesops was that your life is too important to throw away. However, it's underscored by not Holdo's Heroic Sacrifice to take out an entire fleet and Luke's sacrifice to hold off the First Order long enough for everyone to escape, but it's also underscored by the person giving the aesop in the first place, Rose, who nearly died to save Finn from having to sacrifice himself in the first place.
openDiscredited Tropes Film
On the "Barbaric Bully" page it states that the trope is "on it's way to being discredited". It also mentions that the trope is still truth in television in the UK because of Values dissonance. What does that mean when it said value dissonance makes this an omniscient trope in the UK? Does this apply to any other countries too. If so please list them.
openIs this an edit war? Film
On Saw X:
- El Juaco first added
an entirely spoiler-tagged example of Content Leak.
- I removed
the spoiler tag on the grounds that everything regarding the leak (including the Adam corpse and its actor, which is what this issue is mostly raised upon) was already shown in the trailer, and I'm sure it's not a case of Trailers Always Spoil.
- El Juaco re-added the tag
on the Content Leak entry, this time limited to the mention of the Adam corpse and claiming in their edit reason that "who Tommy Crowder plays may be a spoiler". They also added a new completely spoiler-tagged example of The Other Darrin mentioning corpse.
At first, I didn't send any PMs or notifiers to El Juaco because I thought the spoiler tag was going to be a one-off thing I'd simply remove, but then they partially re-added it, so I'm here to ask if El Juaco started an Edit War or not. I've also sent them a PM to notify them about this query.
Edited by Inky100open Sweetheart Nightmare fuel page Film
Is no one gonna help start a nightmare fuel page for the 2019 monster movie, Sweetheart? There is is some scary stuff in here.
open Where to suggest page quotes? Film
I'd like the suggest the quote below as a page quote for Mistaken for Related, but where do I suggest it?
open What trope does this fit ? Film
So I recently learned that the actor dog that played John Wick's dog Daisy, then named Andy, is now called Wick after the man himself. So now I'm left wondering if there's any Trivia or Main trope this example belongs to ? Can you guys help me out ?
open Movie Scene Where Guy in Suit Plays with Kids Film
I'm not thinking of John Travolta in Look Who's Talking Too with "All Shook Up"—though maybe I am. I'm actually thinking of another scene at a kids play place in a movie where the man plays with the kids while I think the song in the background is "Chantilly Lace". Maybe it was something I just imagined I saw all these years and was never actually real though, so there you go. Haha.
openOf crosswicking for The Movie of a series Film
So, I recently made individual pages for both BoBoiBoy movies, BoBoiBoy: The Movie and BoBoiBoy Movie 2, and am gradually crosswicking them.
Let's say there's occurrences of the same trope both in the original series and in a movie. Should the latter's example be a sub-bullet of the former on the trope page? Or should the movie's examples go in the appropriate Film folder?
Example: Height Insult has 3 examples from BBB, 2 of which are from movies, but I was hesitant to move the two movie examples to the "Films - Animated" folder, which I now think would be appropriate since I moved those sub-bullets for that trope example to the respective movie pages
from the BoBoiBoy page itself.
A different example: Mourning a Dead Robot has two BBB examples, one from the series and one from the movie. I haven't edited it recently yet to correct the wick, but I'm uncertain if I should leave the movie example in its current position or move it to the "Films - Animated" folder.
I lean towards separating show examples from movie examples in crosswicking unless they have information that cross-references each other. But I'd like to get more feedback please. Thank you.
open[RESOLVED] Projects thread for to-do namespace migrations? Film
Film.The Ruins was a book first, but the Literature namespace is currently redirecting to the film. Is there a projects thread I can bring this up in?
Edited by StarSwordopenHow Do I Link to the Nightmare Fuel Page of a Film? Film
While making an edit, I’ve discovered how I can link to the main page of another film but I wanna know how to specifically link to a specific page about that film (i.e. Awesome, Funny or Nightmare Fuel). Help?

I'm hoping someone will add one of the earliest examples of this trope.
A CHUMP AT OXFORD (1940) reveals Stan Laurel's backstory: he was Lord Paddington, Oxford's greatest scholar and athlete. Then a falling window sash hit him on the head. He lost his memory and wandered off. Much later, the brainless amnesiac Stan and his pal Oliver Hardy are awarded tuition at Oxford, where the same window again falls on Stan's head, restoring his genius intellect and fighting skills. He then beats up a mob of bullies, becomes Albert Einstein's adviser, and acquires Hardy as a valet whom he condescendingly calls "Fatty." The very same window hits him a third time, restoring his Stan Laurel persona. For once this trope has a happy ending (at least from Ollie's perspective.)
Edited by DougMolitor