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openNo Title Film
Somebody please explain to the SJW who calls herself Superchristiana that we're not justifying any movie's sexism and that all we're doing is enforcing the Citations Rule for
Unfortunate Implications.
openNo Title Film
Someone confirm this, please? Works pages are not supposed to be created in the Main namespace, aye?
I only ask because Robot Holocaust already exists under Film, but for whatever reason the trope list has been copypasted into a Main page. Is this correct, or possibly a misunderstanding re: the nature of redirects?
openNo Title Film
After adding a sub-entry to the Fridge section of The Dark Knight Saga, I noticed that the font for the Fridge Logic folder was all wrong, a single example was visible under that folder, and Fridge Horror was missing entirely. I checked the source code to see if I or someone else had deleted a huge chunk inadvertently, and to my relief, the part I thought was missing was still there. Must be a glitch or something.
openNo Title Film
I'm about to make a work page for the Alfred Hitchcock film Murder!, which is going to need a custom title. When I enter the name in the custom title tool, do I need to use the {{ and }} brackets, since it's a one-word title with no CamelCase?
openNo Title Film
This was removed from Clue:
- Big-Lipped Alligator Moment: The Jehovah's Witness. Subverted, as he turns out to have more importance later.
- The singing telegram is set up as one but turns out to be a plot point as well.
With the edit reason "If they're plot important, they're not BLA Ms"
My question is, if something is set up in a way that it comes across as a Big-Lipped Alligator Moment, but then it's revealed later that it was actually important to the plot after all, is that a subversion of BLAM and therefore worth noting? Or is it simply not the trope?
openNo Title Film
There's a particular Italian film which has two main names - The Gospel According to Matthew, and I wanted to add its page on the wiki.
One small problem though - people keep adding the word 'Saint' before Matthew, when the Director didn't include the term in the title for a very particular reason.
My first question is - should I simply title it according to what the Director uses, and what should I do for it's often used second title, which is 'The Gospel According to Saint Matthew'?
And what should I do for the Italian titles of this same film?
openNo Title Film
I have a question about a Sunset Boulevard quote I just added to FamousLastWords.Film O To Z: In context of the movie, Norma says something else in between the last two sentences of the quote. Does this mean I need to shorten it?
openNo Title Film
Okay, I vaguely remember seeing a forum thread where this subject was mentioned, but I can't find it, so I'm asking here. While checking the remaining hyphenated subpages for Tropes with multiple media pages, I noticed there is a dire lack of standardization for the titles of said subpages as far as the "Film" media is concerned. To date, the possible ones, and the number of pages concerned, are:
- Namespace/AnimatedFilms - 100
- Namespace/AnimatedFilm - 22
- Namespace/Films - 11
- Namespace/Film - 438
- Namespace/LiveActionFilms - 90
- Namespace/LiveActionFilm - 15
As you can see, there is not only contention between using just "Films" or "Live-Action Films", but also whether to use a plural or not.
Is there any kind of clear decision on this subject, and a clean-up effort associated, or is this not yet a priority?
Edited by StFanopenNo Title Film
There's been a minor mix up with TearJerker.Guardians Of The Galaxy. The page was created as Tearjerker.Guardiansofthe Galaxy, and I put it on the cutlist so that we could recreate it as the former, since that's the only way I know of to fix back-end Wiki Word problems. The thing is, the cutmaster didn't restore the page under the new name once it was cut, and regular tropers can't access it to fix it.
openNo Title Film
I removed Broken Base from Aliens, looks like misuse to me.
- Broken Base: This movie is either considered to be a worthy followup to the original or the inferior to the original, but critically it is considered better than anything after it.
- This is especially prominent on IMDB, where the user reviews range from the majority of very positive to the Vocal Minority of outright hate.
On the grounds that there is not "a civil war" between fans of Alien "1" and Alien "2", they both tend to agree the two are very good movies of similar quality +8.5 ratings, some like one more than another but they there's nothing near a Fanon Discontinuity like with the sequels. Complaints agains this sequel are neglibible, if any IMDB Board
, I certainly don't see a broken base, Aliens is generally loved in the Alienverse and most of the expanded universe is based on it (see the last Colonial Marine game, a sequel +25 years later)
Not enough facts to back this kind of YMMV, but Inmortal Frieza
put it back, please advice.
openNo Title Film
I notice that the Humans Are White trope has been snipped from the page on 2010: The Year We Make Contact, on the grounds that the film having a couple of minor, briefly-appearing characters played by black actors apparently "contradicts" the fact that the film replaces an important Indian character with one played by a white actor, and eliminates entirely the Chinese space mission that is a major plot item in the novel. I think it is a legitimate point that the film, unlike the source novel, essentially depicts space exploration as an activity for white people only. What would be the appropriate trope if Humans Are White is not? Monochrome Casting would presumably be subject to the same "contradiction" objection.
openNo Title Film
Comicbook.Watchmen's description includes the line "Warning: Watchmen came out nearly three decades ago, so there will be untagged spoilers from this point forward," but the trope list contains lots of spoiled out text. That seems not quite right to me. Is it just me?
Edited by randomsurferopenNo Title Film
The following example from Bubble Boy was mistaken for two examples because there was a quote smack in the middle. Considering that this is, to my understanding, supposed to be a single example, would this be the proper way to format it?
- My Beloved Smother: Mrs. Livingston by far. Her bedtime stories say it all.
Mrs. Livingston: ...and the prince climbed up Rapunzel's hair to the top of the tower and said, "Come with me, and we'll live happily ever after." Then Rapunzel left her plastic bubble and died. The end.
(after meeting Chloe)
Mrs. Livingston: And then Pinocchio came out of his plastic bubble and touched the filthy little whore next door and died. The End!- It also plays as a major plot point, with The Reveal that [[spoiler
- he was actually dismissed from the hospital because his immune system kicked in when he was 4. She'd kept him in the bubble for at least fourteen years because she was afraid of what the world would do to her innocent baby boy.]]
EDIT: The spoiler managed to get broken by the formatting alone. How would we handle this? BTW the example has been temporarily commented out due to this new formatting issue I've come across, just so you know.
The issue here, to my understanding, is how to format a single example with a quote in the middle as just that–a single example–without breaking any spoiler tags at any point in the example.
Edited by ryanasaurus0077openNo Title Film
This is an odd one; what is the policy on changing another troper's entry on a Headscratchers page? Over at X-Men: Days of Future Past General Krad completely rewrote something I added to the page, eliminating the first line and basically reiterating the second half of what I said. It seems rude but I'm not 100% on the rules specifically for Headscratcher pages.
openNo Title Film
Does Thanos from the Marvel Cinematic Universe really count as a Walking Spoiler? The spoiler seems to be that his existence somehow makes everyone deduce that the movies are headed to an adaption of ''The Infinity Gauntlet (it's his most famous appearance), but should he really count when required reading/research is needed for him to BE a Walking Spoiler? Hell, his section is even titled "SPOILER CHARACTER". I edited it recently to mention that he's a very loose example, and since then, someone edited that it's JUST for comic fans, but should he count at all? I mean, ask your average viewer and he'll be known as "That purple guy who grinned."
Edited by XSpectreGreyX

Well, I just screwed up. I went to make a work page for the film Call Her Savage—but I stupidly put it in the Main namespace instead of Film. I'm going to go ahead and make a Film page, but I guess someone will have to put the Main page Call Her Savage on the cut list. Sorry.