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openEdit War on Halo Infinite's YMMV Videogame
Last month the validity of a Unintentionally Unsympathetic entry on Halo's Infinite YMMV page was qustioned due to conflicting with an Author's Saving Throw entry, and it was decided it would be better off as Broken Base, pending the six months wait. It was thus removed with a clear edit reason as to why.
dinur7 who added original the entry re-added it about a week ago.
This is pretty clearly an edit war now, and the entry should be removed.
That said, I also ask if the Saving Throw entry should removed as well, since it's the other half of the Broken Base.
Edited by RedRobopen Work Page Not Able to Link or Showing Up on Searches Videogame
I added a work page for a video game and followed the directions of changing the URL and then editing and saving the page. I changed it to Video Game/Wytchwood and edited the first page, and saved it. I also added a character page. Nothing pulls up the main Video Game page for Wytchwood if I search it, but it will pull up the character page I added to it. Also, if I try to add the game as an example by uisng Video Game/Wytchwood, it won't link. Since the work's title is one word, do you have to do something extra to set it up?
Edited by SpoonerismsopenMedieval II: Total War Videogame
So, I have checked the Characters page for Medieval II: Total War, and much of the descriptions are copied from the game itself. Feels like plagiarism, though it needs thorough investigation.
openRecreating Supernova Videogame
I'm about to recreate Supernova, and want to know if it's safe to do so.
My current draft has a weak intro (fixable), but has around 21 tropes, which is more than enough. It might clobber an undelete request if I continue.
open ShiftingLight either miswriting an example or vandalizing? Videogame
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.Policenauts#edit31974654
User Shifting Light made this really weird edit to the YMMV page on Policenauts and I have no idea what's going on. Dunno if he put a nattery edit on the wrong page or its some kinda weird vandalism. Sent him a notifier at any rate.
open[Resolved] non-YMMV trope move reverted Videogame
On Jan 20 Necrodomo restored
this example, with edit reason saying I haven't explained its removal properly, but they've missed two things.
Firstly, I've moved the example to the main page, and I was working with other subpages at the time, so a quick glance would confirm the example is in fact on the main page, so now there's a duplicate. Secondly, Art-Style Dissonance is not Audience Reactions or subjective (the writing could be better), so per What Goes Where on the Wiki it shouldn't have been there in the first place.
I've sent them a notifier right away, but they don't seem to be an active editor, so the reply may take who knows how long, and I can't remove it again because that would be edit-warring. So now what?
- Art-Style Dissonance: The campaign in III says outright that the Inferno faction represents the Kreegans from Might and Magic, a race of Planet Looters who look somewhat demon-like and are erroneously thought to be demons and devils by the unknowing inhabitants of planets they invade. Besides the story fragments in the campaign, everything else about the art, lore descriptions, hero biographies, unit design, etc. of the Inferno makes it clear that the people on the development team who cared about the plotline of Might and Magic had absolutely no say in the design of this faction, as the Inferno are a bunch of generic demons and devils from Fire and Brimstone Hell with no resemblance whatsoever to the Kreegans. This was actually a good thing for the Game Mod community and the appeal of III to a wider audience, but it's pretty jarring when playing through the campaign and standalone missions that involve Kreegans.
openWalkthrough footer on a page Videogame
Candy Crush Saga has a bizarre spoiler-tagged footer that's not a punchline, but just a trick to get more playtime out of the game —
Unfortunately, its addition predates the edit history, but this seems like a pretty obvious Walkthrough Mode and candidate for removal. Would it be cool if I did so?
openAssistance in resolving/preventing an edit war on Creator/QuintonFlynn Videogame
Bringing this here since the page's discussion forum doesn't get a lot of traffic.
To provide a bit of context, back in November 2020 images and audio of Voice Actor Quinton Flynn sexually harassing female fans surfaced on social media followed up by multiple accusations from many other women. This led to Flynn losing upcoming roles as documented on the Role Ending Misdemeanor Video Games page. Six months Flynn had sued one of his accusing for stalking him and got a court victory over her, then claimed on Twitter that a judge had found him not guilty of the accusations. This is pretty blatantly a lie; as the plaintiff his guilt or innocence was never under any consideration, he was only suing one woman for stalking him, she defended herself which is a good sign she didn't receive the best legal council, and her being guilty of stalking him does not mean he can't be guilty of harassing her. However some of his fans have taken this as proof that all accusations against him are false and he is 100% innocent since she had to delete her tweets on the matter. So Flynn portraying the decision as him being found not guilty is dishonest and a bit suspect.
Now onto the actual matter; over on his creator page when the judge's decision was brought down Captain Tedium deleted the section on the accusations on April 22 2021 with the following edit reason:
"The sexual allegations have recently been debunked. https://mobile.twitter.com/JasmineDBZking/status/1384605216650059780
Reinstate the detail of what happened in November 2020 only if the proof of Quinton Flynn's innocence is itself debunked. Or if this incident has ended up affecting his career anyway."
On July 4th The Extractor added in a modified entry with the accusations, court victory and the loss of roles with the following edit reasons
"A statement that he alone released, that no one else corroborated, that still contradicts a shitload of visual and audio evidence doesn't remotely absolve him of anything. It also doesn't change the fact that he's effectively been fired from everything and is yet to be re-hired on anything. I'll amend this part so it's more objective and less "hostile", but it stays."
On the 20th I amended the entry to remove the reference to the court case as I felt the way it was written would lead someone to an incorrect assumption of what happened and that to properly explain and provide context would take up a lot of words that in my opinion was largely irrelevant to the point.
There were no further edits to the page until November 6th when Tropers/shaynaynaynot edited the page to add "In April 2021, Flynn tweeted that the accusations came from a stalker
, and he was found not guilty." They also added the same to the REM subpage.
Now what's been added is objectively false (as the plaintiff it is quite literally impossible for him to be found not guilty), but given as this could be described as either the first, second or fourth edit on the matter depending on your definition I'm concerned that reverting it would be considered an edit war, and given that only four of us have been involved in editing there is little hope of getting a consensus. So I'm seeking further input from people who haven't been involved so far.
open Classic Atari Game Videogame
Just finished reading Ready Player One by Ernest Cline and watched the movie. I was born in 1974 so I am very much a Gen Xer. Reading this book brought back lots of childhood memories even if the author failed to include any GIRL 80's nostalgia (Francine Pascal anyone?) Anyway, when I was a girl in 1983-85 we had the Atari 2600 Video Game System and we had a few games including Pac-Man but there was another game I can't remember the name of but I would know the screen shot if I saw it. I haven't thought about this game in probably 40 years! It was played with the paddles not the joystick and up to four players could play because the object was to destroy everyone else's "fort" that had a flag inside. Little dots flew around the screen that you deflected with your paddle and if the walls around your "fort" located in each corner of the screen were penetrated creating holes and your flag was hit-you were out. What was the name of this Atari game? I have already searched lists of Atari games and can't find it anywhere. Such game titles as Flag Capture or Defender are NOT IT. Please help.
openStrange vandalism (?) on Metroid Zero Mission Videogame
The user DOBLEDEDO made some edits to Metroid: Zero Mission claiming that Samus is captured (and handcuffed) in a sequence near the end, where she loses her Power Suit.
Aside from being untrue as far as I can tell (the cutscene shows her ship crashing, and she begins outside the enemy ship next to her own wrecked ship; I haven't found any sort of supplemental material which contradicts this)...the user's edit history has a strange theme
.
EDIT: They've made a second edit, talking about a "prison level", which definitely doesn't exist.
That is to say, every single edit they've made (which granted is only about a dozen, back in 2018 until this one four years later) is about a female character being captured and restrained (which, if that's their thing, fair enough; but there's a time and a place).
Edited by Bisected8openTwo pages on Dead Space 1? Videogame
There is VideoGame.Dead Space, and then there's VideoGame.Dead Space 1. Most of the content seems to be the same. What is going on here? Is this a page split that was not properly executed?
Edited by Wuzopen Red Flood page locked Videogame
The page for Red Flood appears to be locked because of a past "drama". As one of the developers of the mod I would like to inform that the "drama" is over and the page should be opened to edit for everyone.
Edited by OzajaszopenName for a videogame series Videogame
I want to create a page for The Legend of Sword and Fairy Chinese RPG series, but I'm unsure how I should name it, because there are several names for the franchise. The Legend... appears to be the original Chinese name, but on Steam these games, both translated and not, are called just Sword and Fairy. There's also three TV series, that share names with games in the original, but are usually called Chinese Paladin. "Chinese Paladin" is also used on Steam as a supertitle for the 6th and the remake of the 1st game. The most recent game, Sword and Fairy 7, doesn't have it, though.
Also, just to be sure, the series doesn't warrant Franchise namespace, right? There seem to be some books, stageplays and even a CCG , but it's unlikely that anyone will write anything on them any time soon.
Edited by VeriamoopenPage removed Videogame
My page about a sub-genre of RP Gs was removed. Just wanted to know why.
Edited by querempazopenRealLifeWritesThePlot Example? Videogame
So an entry under Real Life Writes the Plot in Trivia.Love Live School Idol Festival All Stars reads as such:
- Tomori Kusunoki was noticeably absent from various shows and minor performances throughout 2020 and 2021 due to being diagnosed with a medical condition that impacted her physical and mental health. In many cases performances where she would normally be present used her pre-recorded voice as a substitute.
As I understand, this isn't an example of Real Life Writes the Plot as this doesn't affect the fictional story... but Main.Real Life Writes The Plot also has the Fake Shemp entry written as:
- Fake Shemp: The actor is unavailable, but the studio utilizes archived footage, archived audio and/or body doubles to simulate the actor's presence.
The wording here makes the above example count. So should it count or not?
openThe Origami king trope Videogame
This was deleted back in November from Videogame.Paper Mario The Origami King:
- Darker and Edgier: Compared to Sticker Star and Color Splash, which were Lighter and Softer and seemed to fall back on the standard Mario formula (i.e. both of them caused by Bowser's doing, and Kersti and Huey being poor successors to those like Goombella, Prof. Colorado, Vivian, or Tippi, or hell, any of the other two teams) The Origami King seems to hearken back to Super Paper Mario in terms of dark tone and epic-scale story, as well as Mario's main partner having a personal connection to the main antagonist. Olly is a tyrant whose end-goal of making a wish to wipe every single Toad out of existence clearly puts him on the line of the end-goals of Count Bleck before his redemption, Dimentio, or the Shadow Queen, and it's also the first Paper Mario game with permanent onscreen deaths for heroic characters.
It was deleted by Mcmadness with this edit reason: "It's full of opinions that are debetable and the bias of the writer is obvious."
I feel like the entry explains its reasoning quite well. I want to add it back, am I okay to?
Edited by jjjj2openEdit War on YMMV/PokemonLegendsArceus Videogame
On January 29
, The Jayman 49 added an item for Surprisingly Improved Sequel to Pokémon Legends: Arceus. Today, Ferot_Dreadnaught moved it to Even Better Sequel. Later on today, Jayman moved it back
, claiming it fits there instead because of heavy criticism from some circles of the previous entries. Personally, I agree with Ferot, as the harshest criticisms were mostly just a Vocal Minority, but then, that's besides the point.
open [Resolved] phantom indexing Videogame
[e: After an hour of waiting seems to be cleared up]
I've been trying to fix Characters.Cyberpunk 2077 subpages indexing the parent page and other subpages, but after removing the index markup from subpages and blank-refreshing twice, I still see the indexes at the bottom. Incidentally, the site has been kinda slow for the past 5 minutes, so maybe there's some interference tech-side. Noting here in case people would want to take a look, may move to Query Bugs later if it persists.
Edited by AmonimusopenMisuse on LethalJokeCharacter page Videogame
I saw a recent query about an edit on Lethal Joke Character, so I checked out the page to see what it was about.
I found that
- The trope description clearly says that this is a video game trope, and lists a number of related tropes that would apply to non-game contexts.
- Despite this, the example list has a entire section for "non-gaming examples", which is apparently large enough to be sub-divided into folders.
- One of the non-gaming folders is "real life". How can there be joke characters in real life?
This is of course rampant, systematized misuse, but what should we do about it? Does this warrant taking the trope to TRS (with the possibility of broadening the trope), or would a cleanup suffice? Unfortunately, I'm very pressed for time myself right now or I would already have started cleaning up, but I thought I'd at least report it.
Edited by GnomeTitan

I've edited MythologyGag.Nickelodeon All Star Brawl on various occasions in the past few months to add examples, some of which include external links to help back them up. (Here
are
some instances of this.) On the 12th of this month, Pgj1997 removed several of these links
, explaining in an edit reason after the fact
that Weblinks Are Not Examples.
While I understand the policy, I made an effort to write all of my examples such that the connection between something in the game and the original series it's based on was evident from the text alone, which means that their edits seem like they're overreaching. Put another way, I tried to abide by what the page itself says:
I don't want to risk edit warring, so I wanted to bring up the matter here to get others' opinions on this before taking any action.