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openWhich examples sound like character bashing on this page? Anime
Sailor Moon
- Usagi Tsukino can be this:
- She can be a Clingy Jealous Girl toward Mamoru and hates when other women get close to him, but she is not always faithful herself, judging by the way she stares at other boys. Apparently, only one of them needs to be 100% devoted. This is mostly in the first anime.
- In one episode, she slaps Mamoru for forgetting her birthday even though she never told him, but she doesn't know his birthday either.
- Chibi-Usa can be this as well:
- She accuses Usagi of being "ungrateful" for rejecting her mother's hot cakes (and she only rejected them because she had already eaten something and didn't even know her mother was making something for her in the first place) when she herself does not appreciate that Usagi has constantly put her own life on the line to save her from danger.
- In one episode, she gets viciously angry at Usagi after the latter unknowingly steals the pie she baked for a classmate. In other episodes, she would knowingly steal Usagi's food just for the sake of it.
- For all her talk about Usagi being an incompetent guardian, she proves to be quite incompetent at being a guardian herself once she starts her training.
- She (along with the others) criticizes Usagi for her laziness, even though she is shown to be rather lazy herself; for instance, she has Usagi carry all the groceries while she herself is empty-handed.
- Luna the Cat also has her moments:
- She gets on Usagi's case when the latter allegedly wet the bed, but she doesn't hold it against Chibi-Usa when it's revealed it was her who did it. When Usagi points this out to Luna, Luna excuses herself by telling her, "Well, you deserved it."
- When she merely thinks Diana is the lovechild of Artemis and another cat, she violently rages at him. Fast-forward to Sailor Stars, where she openly fawns over Yaten, perfectly fine with the fact that Artemis knows.
- She also had the nerve to taunt Usagi for not noticing if Chibi-Chibi was her daughter or not when she herself failed to realize that Diana was her daughter and jumped to conclusions. Usagi rightfully calls her out on this, and she quickly becomes embarrassed.
- She usually does nothing to stop Chibi-Usa from antagonizing Usagi, yet she has the nerve to call out Usagi whenever she retaliates in any way.
- Haruka Tenoh is another example:
- During the early stages of her relationship with Michiru, Haruka snarked that she didn't think a privileged rich girl like her could possibly understand a concept as bleak as the apocalypse, even though Haruka herself is a privileged rich girl.
- Before going to confront Eudial with Michiru, Haruka tells Usagi that they won't let her slow them down with her "half-baked play war". She says this, even though she and Michiru didn't have a concrete plan for finding the Talismans all season and they hadn't formed a plan for when they confronted Eudial and when they did, she quickly gained the upper hand. Had Usagi heeded their threat and stayed away, Haruka and Michiru would've died and the Death Busters would've gotten a hold on two Talismans.
- In the Stars season, she expresses distaste at the way Seiya "indiscriminately approaches women", yet Haruka has been shown to flirt with a lot of girls, including Usagi and the Inner Soldiers (even stealing a kiss from Sailor Moon in the manga/Crystal without her consent, which is a form of sexual assault) and unlike Seiya, Haruka is in a relationship (a stable one with trust from both sides, but still).
- Both her and Michiru often display Ignorant of Their Own Ignorance when it comes to criticizing the Inner Guardians. Generally, this takes the form of treating the Inner scouts as new girls who haven't had to make tough sacrifices. The truth being Venus had been active for at least a year prior to the events of season 1 (and Michiru being active at most around season 2), and all five of them dying in heroic sacrifices in the end of Season 1.
- Rei often scolds and mocks Usagi for certain traits and habits, yet she herself exhibits the exact same behavior or does it after scolding Usagi for doing so. One of the best examples of this is in the fifth season, when Usagi is shown worrying about Seiya, at which point Rei shows up and says, "Stop worrying about someone else and go study!" Ignoring that Rei is, at that moment, worrying about someone else and not studying.
openShould Star Wars Visions be moved to the Animation namespace? Anime
As of right now, Star Wars: Visions is currently occupying the Anime namespace since the first volume is primarily done by anime studios. However, as of volume 2, I feel it no longer suits the namespace, as the second volume is done by a wider array of studios from across the world
instead of strictly anime studios like the first volume.
We can't move it to the Western Animation namespace, since Volume 1 is covered by Anime studios and one of the shorts in Volume 2 is covered by Studio Mir (a South Korean studio). But I know we have a namespace that is specifically for animated works that don't fit cleanly into either the anime or Western Animation namespaces, that being the "Animation" namespace.
So with that in mind, should we move Visions to that namespace instead, since I feel that better reflects Visions?
Edited by Tylerbear12openBroken Aesop Entry Anime
I have an entry I would like to add to Anime & Manga but last time I added an example of that trope got deleted. So I would like to know where I should run my entry to see if it meets the standards.
openAnime Voice Actor Alphabetization? Anime
Can somebody point me to the latest discussion about the massive clusterfuck that is alphabetizing anime voice actors by the name of their fictional character, and how we should go about un-fucking it? Aoi Yūki has a second role in YuruYuri now, but the show is alphabetized under her first character's name, which (as you might be able to guess) isn't the same as her second character.
openEnsemble Dark Horse misuse? Anime
Last year’s November, in the anime’s YMMV subpage, this Ensemble Dark Horse was added in Nov 26th 2023 from the anime tv show called Scott Pilgrim Takes Off. According to the no recent examples rule, the Ensemble Dark Horse can only be added within one month after the anime’s release date. However this anime tv show was released on November 17th, 2023, therefore it was too early to add this opinionated trope at that time of last year.
I’m well aware of the fact that it’s January 10th (or 11th, depending on the country time and date), 2024, and it seems rather irrelevant considering it has been roughly well over two months now already. Truthfully back then, I have known about the Ensemble Dark Horse being added two months ago for a while but I was afraid of what other tropers would react to my response or post. I never actually watched Scott Pilgrim Takes Off and I’m not exactly sure how popular these characters are. I don’t have much good reasons for showing this, I apologize for bringing this up right now of all times. I thought it might be worth mentioning it, or perhaps I just felt like it. Perhaps now it is okay for the Ensemble Dark Horse stay and leave as it is? Or if there is any actual reasons to remove it? Any thoughts?
Edited by YatasumujiSenpaiopen"our profile picture"? Anime
There's this entry used to describe the Opportunistic Bacteria in Cells at Work!.
- Little Bit Beastly: One of them (in fact, it's the one in our profile picture) is represented as a kitsune.
What is "our profile picture" referring to? Should I remove that part? I'm assuming the "one of them" is the one in the center of this image.
◊ Note that the entry was added in July of 2021.
openYuGiOh Uncertain Audience Anime
I noticed that in the History section of YMMV.Yu Gi Oh, the Uncertain Audience entry was removed with the justification being a case Square Peg, Round Trope. But since there was quite a bit of effort put in that entry, I want to know if it can at least be salvaged under another trope.
Edited by 227someguyopenWant to add secondary trope to video Anime
In the video examples for Romantic Ribbing, I believe the trope also shows an attempt at Romantic Spoonfeeding, but I cannot find the edit option to add it. I've scoured the how-tos and forums and can't find what I'm looking for. Is this something an Admin needs to do?
openSplit large pages Anime
I've noticed the Strong Family Resemblance Anime And Manga page is very long (78,777 characters). Is it valid to separate the pages into:
- Strong Family Resemblance / Anime And Manga - A-M
- Strong Family Resemblance / Anime And Manga - N-Z
Or not?
Edited by deerhornsaresoprettyopenPossible edit war Anime
Troper Joe Devaney 29 might possibly be edit warning.
- Here
they added a Jerkass Has a Point entry for Eli.
- I removed it
citing this
- They added it back
(albeit rewritten).
What strikes about them (speaking as someone without much knowledge Love Live) is that Eli doesn't seem like a jerk. Does she impede the progress of the others? Yes. But it's because she is cautious about failure, not because she is a jackass who wants to and has may have a point about it.
I would like more opinions on this though.
Edited by Ayumi-chanopen looking for old shows that aired in my country once in the 2000s Anime
the shows that I rememeber briefly that ran between I think 2000 and 2009
1-one that is basically zorro but futuristic 2d style with the zorro character being a rebel leader. 2-one is either an anime that was dubbed or a western anime style show about a squad I remember the first episode where one of the main character had her entire squad slaughtered and one of them was killed with a pistol by the enemy while his plane was upside down.
Edited by hussain_ammopenSockpuppets over Dubbing Anime
Since all the posting about this is done on the forums, I can't just show their forum history directly, but the posts of dms2345 seem to mirror that of the now-suspended user dms3456. First, the username is almost identical. Second, they both post about the same topics of anime subs and dubs, including the same works like Cardcaptor Sakura (dms2345
,dms3456
) and Pokémon (dms2345
, dms3456
)
openMy Hero Academia - Arc Name Anime
Several Story Arcs listed in My Hero Academia in recap page are using wrong name. We need to change their names to real ones
- Unforeseen Simulation Joint (USJ) arc - USJ arc
- Hero Killer arc - Vs Hero Killer arc
- School Trip arc - Forest Training Camp arc
- Hero License Exam arc - Provisional Hero License Exam arc
- Internship arc - Shie Hassaikai arc
- Culture Festival arc - U.A. School Festival arc
- Endeavour Intern arc - Endeavour Agency arc
- Villain Hunt and Deku vs Class 1A arcs are need to be fused into Dark Hero arc
openPossible edit war Anime
Troper catbot158 have made a possible edit war on Characters.A Sign Of Affection.
- Here
, they added a Beta Couple entry (albeit a ZCE) to both Rin and Kyoya's folder.
- I hid it
- They unhid it
without elaborating the trope.
openQuery for page filling Anime
Where do I put the Divinez characters on the Cardfight!! Vanguard overDress character page? Do they just go on the bottom or something?
Edited by Eldeew31-lelopenSomeone removed the content of the "Awesome" page of Voltes V, and replaced it with...this Anime
This
is the page now, I can't make sense of what's going on. I edited this page months ago and it was normal, had clean grammar, readable examples and made sense. Now it looks like someone has deleted ALL that content and added a whole bunch of natter.
Is there a way to restore this page to it's clean, readable original version? (If you need a time frame, November 2023 - I remember checking out this page and it looked normal and up to standards).
openConcerning Pokémon edits made by a troper. Anime
Troper Blast Vision needs a tap on the shoulder, because I’ve been going through certain pages of the Pokémon franchise and he seems to be making edits about the characters of the show in a snarky, character bashing like tone. I’ve come here to avoid starting edit wars.
openJak at it again with Star Wars comparisions Anime
A long while back I put this on the Anime and Manga P to S page for Better Than It Sounds
- Ringing Bell: Sheep Bambi pulls a Face–Heel Turn as an attempt at revenge.
Recently, jak2130472, who I have talked about here before
, changed it to:
- Ringing Bell: Sheep Anakin pulls a Face–Heel Turn as an attempt at revenge.
I dunno much about Anakin Skywalker's backstory, but I think Bambi is a better fit because it's an adorable animal whose mom got killed. Is it safe for me to bring this up mainly because it's getting annoying?
Edited by RedBerryBlueCherry

- Neon Genesis Evangelion:
- Asuka Langley Soryu often proves herself worthy of this trope:
- She always criticizes Shinji for being useless, even though she constantly screws up missions with her own stubbornness and pride.
- She blames Shinji for their botched first kiss, claiming that he's rejecting her, when it was her own fault for goading him into kissing her with convoluted and mixed signals, as well as holding Shinji's nose to prevent his breathing from tickling her, which suffocates him. All of which are very unromantic.
- She frequently calls out Shinji for being so weak and vulnerable, despite the fact that, as the series progresses, it turns out she is just as weak and vulnerable as he is, albeit trying to hide it with aggression and temper tantrums.
- She treats all the boys she's around with contempt and considers them perverts and/or idiots, yet she herself engages in very inappropriate sexual conduct with her guardian, Kaji, and consistently makes and commits idiotic decisions and actions that not only endanger her but others.
- She constantly attacks Shinji for not being "a man" or not "manning up", yet she herself is hardly what one would call "womanly".
- While it's partially true that Misato shows Parental Favoritism towards Shinji, Asuka is the last person to call her out, especially when all she wants and craves is to be praised, loved, and coddled.
- For all her complaints about no one caring for her, she herself is shown to care very little (if at all) for the well-being of her teammates, even belittling them after enduring serious trauma.
- She also has the nerve to blame others for rejecting her when she frequently and deliberately rejects, rebukes, abuses, and takes advantage of others.
- She calls Shinji selfish for wanting to save the world merely to impress his father, yet Asuka's own motive is at its core just as selfish as she does it out of a need for validation too.
- She feels entitled to and demands unconditional devotion and praise from anyone and everyone she meets. However, Asuka feels no obligation to treat others with even the slightest amount of respect and decency unless doing so will keep them under her thrall or otherwise advance her interests in some way; she treats virtually everyone around her with undisguised contempt.
- Asuka is also in no position to chew Shinji out for being afraid of getting hurt and being rejected by others, considering that she herself is afraid of getting hurt by others, and especially because she is one of the people, aside from Gendo, responsible for hurting and rejecting Shinji.
- Asuka gets angry and disgusted at Shinji for complaining, claiming that he's always blaming others, yet she is the one who whines and complains more than anyone in the entire franchise and consistently blames or shifts the blame to others for her own faults.
Edited by NoobMaster