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Well this is frustrating. I created a new Fanfic Recs page for an anime. I even put a link to it on the main Fanfic Recs page, yet it says it hasn't been indexed even though it's been far longer than it usually takes. Why? Other Fanfic Recs pages say they're indexed. Why doesn't this one?
Edited by TheNerfGuyopenNo Title Anime
OK, I have a very serious question about a Moral Event Horizon example on the YMMV page for the Pokémon anime.
"The Trio definitely crossed it in "Round 1- Begin!" While they'd been getting more and more willing to use lethal force to get Ash out of their way for good, going so far as to try to run Ash over in front of his own mother in the preceding episode, it's usually when he has a shot at stopping them. This was... different. Long story short, their latest scheme in "All Fired Up!" is to steal the flames of Moltres, which is used in the Indigo League ceremony. Their first attempt literally backfires, as they nearly burn to death before Ash has Squirtle put them out. This time, not even James shows any gratitude, and they're back in the next episode, with a giant Grasshopper/Firefly mech to hold the flames. They nearly crush him several times until they have what they want, and Ash's and his Pokemon's efforts to stop them are in vain, as they're now able to use the flames for a powerful flamethrower attack. Even though his Pokemon are exhausted and he stands no chance against them, he blocks their path and gives a passionate speech about the flames and what they mean to all trainers and dares them to "take their best shot". Instead of sparing him for saving their lives or out of respect for the balls he's just shown and simply jumping over him with their prize in tow, they proceed to turn him into a smoking pile of his namesake, trying to send him and all his Pokemon(including the Pikachu they've worked so hard and so long to steal) to the very fate he saved them from."
Specifically, does this even count as an example? That was certainly the worst thing the Trio as a whole ever did in the anime (OOC even by Season 1 standards), but some seasons later they became the bumbling buffoons they were up until Best Wishes, and they actually have a bunch of sympathetic moments afterwards, and to my understanding, Moral Event Horizon is the point where the villain who commits an evil deed becomes irredeemably evil and unsympathetic, not simply the worst thing the villain does.
Edited by ryanasaurus0077openNo Title Anime
Per this discussion on the Yu-gi-Oh chaarcter pages:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Characters.YuGiOhMainCharacters&id=86400#86400
"Okay, somebody changed all of the pictures. When I added the old pictures back but kept the new ones, that same person got rid of them."
openNo Title Anime
I found several pages like this: Fall 2012 Anime and I was wondering if that was really a think we needed? Seems kind of pointless.
openNo Title Anime
Bit of a question if a certain character from Nanatsu No Taizai counts as a Satellite Character or not which me and a fellow troper are discussing. Some spoilers though.
Griamor is a Holy Knight who serves Princess Veronica. He is the knight to her lady. Most of his motivations revolve around serving her as it seems that he has a bit of a Bodyguard Crush on her. Unfortunately she dies, and out of shock breaks down and disobeys Veronica's last order to protect her sister from the surrounding chaos at the time. He leaves for a time only to return much later to save Veronica's sister. He saves Elizabeth from making a Heroic Sacrifice/ committing suicide and even gives the reason that doing so would make Veronica sad. Currently, he is about to fight one of the manga's Big Bad Duumvirate.
Griamor is also the son of the manga's other Big Bad. In fact he is a major motivation for the other Big Bad, as Dreyfus is a "Well Done, Dad!" Guy who just wanted his son to be proud of him. When Griamor is reported as K.I.A., Dreyfus experiences I guess the villainous version of Heroic BSoD. When the previously mentioned first Big Bad tells Dreyfus that he was the one who killed Griamor, Dreyfus goes Papa Wolf. When Dreyfus is told Griamor is alive, Dreyfus is breaks down in Tears of Joy.
Now with all this information, does this make Griamor a Satellite Character? I personally think that all these makes him not one but can't seem to convey a concrete explanation in my discussion with my fellow troper on the matter. So some other opinions would be welcome.
openNo Title Anime
arielrocks is making weird edits to Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea and especially its discussion page. Not sure what their deal is.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Anime.PokemonRangerAndTheTempleOfTheSea
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Anime.PokemonRangerAndTheTempleOfTheSea&id=85289#85289
openNo Title Anime
On the entry for I'm Here to Help, Anon Biblophile keeps deleting or editing valid tropes for the entry (among other things, he deleted the main character making snide comments about a brainwashed character being raped and then trying to kill said character being unsympathetic on the grounds that the main character didn't like him and was bantering). In general, they seem to be removing or justifying anything negative that's put in about the fanfiction.
I'm not sure if this constitutes an edit war or not, but the troper in question seems to be hovering around that page and editing most of the things added in (the YMMV entries, which were the most recent edits, were added in a few days ago). If it doesn't though, I would like to know how to best bring things to the page's discussion board to talk about the edits, since we clearly aren't seeing eye to eye on this.
Edit: In regards to a new issue that's arisen, while Anon and I have been reaching some middle ground on the YMMV page, there's some debate on what ought to go under the entry for Unintentionally Unsympathetic. There are a number of specific examples that I feel should be mentioned because I and quite a few other readers found them VERY distasteful and big reasons why we saw the character as unsympathetic, however Anon and I are in disagreement over whether or not they justifiably fall under the trope.
The specific points we're sorting out can be seen at the discussion board (apologies for how long-winded we both got about this) - https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=FanFic.ImHereToHelp#83293
Since Unintentionally Unsympathetic is a YMMV trope, I know that leaves things a bit less concrete, but I was wondering if there was some guideline that could be followed for what sorts of examples are acceptable for this trope?
Edited by ZeldaQueenopenNo Title Anime
hijhiysonikku is adding subjective tropes to Pokémon Black and White (IE saying N is sexy and made a fake page for a Pokemon Black and White movie.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/PokemonBlackandWhiteTheMovie
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Film/PokemonBlackandWhiteTheMovie
I have no idea what's going on.
Edited by lalalei2001openNo Title Anime
On the Black Butler character page, there seems to be some disagreement on whether to use male or female pronouns when referring to Grell Sutcliff. In the manga and the anime, Grell is referred to with male pronouns. I corrected this in the entries, and vividgrim changed it back. To avoid an edit war, we need a moderator to be the judge of this apparently.
openNo Title Anime
Someone just recently created a Nightmare Fuel subpage for Shokugeki no Soma with only one entry. Since, IIRC, a Subpage requires a minimum of 3 examples, is it okay to cutlist the page and move the entry to the YMMV subpage, or should I wait for the page to grow? (Because this being a cooking manga, I doubt that it would have many Nightmare Fuel entries)
Edited by theAdeptRogueopenNo Title Anime
OolonColluphid
is edit warring over Complete Monster on YMMV.Freezing and keeps readding it.
openNo Title Anime
I was planning to make a page for the Tsubasa Chronicle fanfic Shatterheart
but then I saw the No Lewdness, No Prudishness page and I want some clarification. The pairing is Kurogane and Syaoran, who in story are 27 and 21 but Syaoran has the appearance of a 15-16 year old, which is stated in story. I want to know if it violates the rule or not because he borders on the no Older Than They Look Rule of No Lewdness. If he violates the rule I will not make the page and get rid of the Fan Fic Rec I made for it. If doesn't can I make the page?
openNo Title Anime
Uhm hi, I know Naughty Tentacles was cut because of reasons, so I figure I should mention this: A lot I see All Anime Is Naughty Tentacles being used as a replacement for the cut Naught Tentacles trope (Like this from Mx0 All Anime Is Naughty Tentacles: Mizuki encounters some in the cave where Lucy is from.)
Who should I report that to: do I need to start a TRS? (I dont know how to do that)
i have no problem with Naughty Tentacles myself, but I figure if you cut it you probably want it to stay cut

Edit War on Seinen between Swordgai and Dark Paladin X
extended history of the article
Edited by TheOneWhoTropes